James Toney will be back to MMA

http://mmajunkie.com/news/20521/trainer-says-james-toney-back-to-mma-after-iba-title-defense-with-or-without-ufc.mma
James Toney is set to defend his IBA heavyweight title on Nov. 5 in New Orleans, but he's not done with MMA.

Toney made that decision in the locker room of Boston's TD Garden moments after UFC Hall of Famer Randy Couture tapped him out with an arm-triangle choke three minutes into his first real taste of the sport at UFC 118.

"They might have won the battle, but the war ain't over yet," recalled John "Pops" Arthur, Toney's trainer of 12 years, of the boxing champion's words after the fight.
The trainer contends Toney simply wasn't capable of listening because of something that happened backstage just prior to showtime. He won't say what it was – only that it altered the course of the night.

"James was so upset," the trainer said. "He was so mad, he just wanted to hit [Randy]. He wanted to get close enough to hit him one time because of so many things that happened that night that were going against us.

"There were some things happened that he wasn't happy with. It's personal. It drove him to a whole different level."

Arthur watched in dismay as the boxer's gameplan got thrown out the window. After all that preparation, Toney was gambling that Couture would run straight into his fists.

"I said, 'Whatever you do, don't stand in front of the kid because the kid's going to try and take you down,'" Arthur recalls. "[He's] going to take that lead leg. That's what he did.

"I told him he's got to move. I said, 'You've got to get out there and use your boxing skills.'"

Worse, the ankle supports that Toney sported only served to hasten his fall.

"He had those damn cufflinks on his feet; those damn things that keep you from sliding, and that's another bad thing," Arthur said. "He gave [Couture] something to grab onto."
"Well, then Dana needs to send me some release papers," he said. "If we don't plan on fighting in the UFC, send me the release paper and we'll take it to the next level. I know the UFC is the No. 1 [promotion] in mixed martial arts, but if Dana voiced that we don't fight for him anymore, send me the release papers. I don't have any problem with that.

"Once that happens, then I'll start working on stuff. But right now, we're focused on him defending his IBA heavyweight championship."
Toney is taking the rest of the week to relax but plans on working both his MMA and boxing skills when he returns to the gym.

"He's going to be doing groundwork and boxing," Arthur said. "He's going to be a two-sport athlete. The reality is that he wants to do it, and he will do it again. I think the next time I match him up, I'll make sure I'll matchup at least 50-50 equal. The cards were stacked against him."

Fuck James Toney!

I'd like to see him fight a kickboxer like Hunt or Crocop since he has zero chance against a grappler.

boomer sooner wrote:

I'd like to see him fight a kickboxer like Hunt or Crocop since he has zero chance against a grappler.

this doesn't interest me at all!

I feel sorry for the guy. Maybe he can call up Tank Abbott to get the kind of MMA matchup he wants.

killerofchicken wrote:

boomer sooner wrote:

I'd like to see him fight a kickboxer like Hunt or Crocop since he has zero chance against a grappler.

this doesn't interest me at all!

You know, you're right. I really wouldn't care to see that either. He should be gone. That was a really, really, really bad loss.

boomer sooner wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

boomer sooner wrote:

I'd like to see him fight a kickboxer like Hunt or Crocop since he has zero chance against a grappler.

this doesn't interest me at all!

You know, you're right. I really wouldn't care to see that either. He should be gone. That was a really, really, really bad loss.

He made no attempt to get in shape, he was just looking for a pay day.

More smack talking from an over the hill boxer watching his sport slide into the abyss of non-relevence.

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

Toney

killerofchicken wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

Toney

Kimbo would still be in the hospital getting cards from his fans telling him to "get well soon". It would be a brutal sight.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

Toney

Kimbo would still be in the hospital getting cards from his fans telling him to "get well soon". It would be a brutal sight.

Kimbo would take Toney down just like he did Mercer, he ain't no fool!

killerofchicken wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

Toney

Kimbo would still be in the hospital getting cards from his fans telling him to "get well soon". It would be a brutal sight.

Kimbo would take Toney down just like he did Mercer, he ain't no fool!

No way in hell, Kimbo would get fucking murdered on his TD attempt. Just because Randy shot an outside single with his head so low it grazed the mat doesn't mean a clumsy Kimbo double leg would work. Kimbo would get seriously hurt if he stepped into the cage with Toney.

I don't see it, anything could happen but I really don't think Kimbo would have too much trouble securing a takedown, we're talking about old fat fart who hardly trains!

killerofchicken wrote:

I don't see it, anything could happen but I really don't think Kimbo would have too much trouble securing a takedown, we're talking about old fat fart who hardly trains!

Kimbo wouldn't ever get close enough to fuck with James. Kimbo's wrestling is just awful. He got a body lock on Houston for his TD, you really think he can get a body lock on Toney without eating a few punches? Kimbo's knee is shot, he can't shoot in for a double leg, he can't dance around. He would be a sitting duck for Toney to take target practice on. Forget that Mercer fight, they think looked completely fixed anyways.

IDK, but i've gotta go on a work trip! TGIF later dudes!

killerofchicken wrote:

IDK, but i've gotta go on a work trip! TGIF later dudes!

take it easy Killer

LOL!

Please stop mentioning that stupid IBA title, it means nothing in boxing. Wladimir Klitschko is the heavyweight champion !

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

More smack talking from an over the hill boxer watching his sport slide into the abyss of non-relevence.

I like you Andrew but that's a load of bull droppings. It's smack talk from an over the hill boxer who's no longer relevant in his own sport.

You don't see the UFC headlining stadiums around the world.

Ali_1748 wrote:

Please stop mentioning that stupid IBA title, it means nothing in boxing. Wladimir Klitschko is the heavyweight champion !

We know this. I just pasted the article I didn't write it. No one here as ever refereed to him as the current boxing HW Champion in any way.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

Toney

Kimbo would still be in the hospital getting cards from his fans telling him to "get well soon". It would be a brutal sight.

I know I went a little overboard but come on atleast kimbo has some experience on the ground if he got a hold of toney and thats an if.... he would slam his ass on the ground and beat on him if he didnt get winded. lol

Im just sayin toney has no business in mma and we will see that next time he fights if he does and that will be against a close to nobody and they will take him down and do the same that randy did I guarentee it. If he continues to train his TD defense for another 6-12 months I will give him a slight chance. But at 41and fat he needs re think this mma shit.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Please stop mentioning that stupid IBA title, it means nothing in boxing. Wladimir Klitschko is the heavyweight champion !

We know this. I just pasted the article I didn't write it. No one here as ever refereed to him as the current boxing HW Champion in any way.

I know you never wrote it Sooner, it just bugs me each time I see the media mention it.

sokolkevin wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

sokolkevin wrote:

of course the odds were stacked up against him he called out randy fucking couture you moron not kimbo slice. Shit kimbo would of pounded his ass to submission.

Kimbo would have pounded who into submission?

Toney

Kimbo would still be in the hospital getting cards from his fans telling him to "get well soon". It would be a brutal sight.

I know I went a little overboard but come on atleast kimbo has some experience on the ground if he got a hold of toney and thats an if.... he would slam his ass on the ground and beat on him if he didnt get winded. lol

Im just sayin toney has no business in mma and we will see that next time he fights if he does and that will be against a close to nobody and they will take him down and do the same that randy did I guarentee it. If he continues to train his TD defense for another 6-12 months I will give him a slight chance. But at 41and fat he needs re think this mma shit.

The thing is even with all the training Kimbo is not a wrestler in any way. He would not be able to take James down without getting his skull crushed in the process. Do you really think Kimbo would sign to fight Toney just to shoot in right when the bell rings? Kimbo would be the best possible matchup for James, especially with that bum knee.