People StrikeForce Should go After

who would be some good people for strikeforce to acquire in your opinion?

I think even though Wanderlei Silva is older he is the type of fighter they would need, entertaining and has a name and would be a good test for the division and be fun to see Henderson vs him again. When his contract is up they should make a run at him

Also even though this would be far more unlikely than Silva, Rich Franklin would do the same thing Wanderlei would do for their Middle or Light Heavy division

Probably even more unlikely, unless Dana would really actually let him go, Stephan Bonnar would be another good name that could make their Light Heavyweight Division hypothetically having Henderson, Mousasi, Sobral, Wandy, Franklin and Bonnar

THATS A HUGE IF ,

but I think they should try to stack Light Heavyweight and Middleweight with good crowd pleasing fights for Henderson.

Matt Hughes would be another fighter that would be fun and give them a solid name at Welter

WHo do yall think they should go after next?

Well I don't think any of those guys will leave the UFC for SF.

I'd say Nick Diaz, Hermes Franca, & Mac Danzig are more realistic because they have names, but I don't see a much longer UFC career for these guys.

great adds, and a I know those are all long shots yours are much more likely to happen
I especially like the Hermes and Diaz adds

im assuming you mean nate diaz and he isn't going anywhere. He's a solid fighter the ufc would be stupid to cut him.

oggy420 wrote:

im assuming you mean nate diaz and he isn't going anywhere. He's a solid fighter the ufc would be stupid to cut him.

Yes I meant Nate. Yes he is the biggest long shot out of the 3 listed, but I could see some bad blood between him and the UFC form at some point. Plus you throw in the fact he isn't going to challenge for the title... well probably ever. Yes I know he's young, but his 'game' is only going to get him so far. He's gotta learn to wrestle and continue to improve him stand up. Look how Guida & Stevenson outwrestled him or how easily Guillard outstruck him. If Diaz doesn't get that sub vs Melvin he may have very well been on his way out with 3 losses in a row.

Nate is a TUF winner, he's staying, and part of the reason I think ud see Nick back one day.

diaz is 6-2 in the ufc. If he get's crushed against maynard then i'll agree, but considering he's 1-0 against him im picking him to pull off a sub. Will he ever challenge for a title, no, your probably right. But he's an exciting fighter who fans are familiar with from tuf. The UFC doesn't cut fan favorites. But who knows maybe when his contract expires he decides he wants to fight for the same org as his brother so maybe it's not that far fetched.

And the last line is just stupid. If Matt Hughes didn't lay-n-pray against serra he would have lost too

Chill with that he beat him once stuff, Gray was really raw at that point, he's gonna prob dominate with takedowns, Diaz's don't do well against wrestlers historically

this is true but im still picking nate to pull off a sub. If im wrong so be it but im calling the upset here.

I know ur a big Diaz bros fan, I like em too, but I'd be surprised if he beat Gray, anythings possible of course. Nate needs to pack on some more muscle IMO, he's more talented than guys like Guida and Stevenson who he lost to.

yea he's a pretty tall LW though im he'd probably have to move up to 170 if he really wanted to get bigger. If Gray decides to box with him this could be an interesting fight.

oggy420 wrote:

diaz is 6-2 in the ufc. If he get's crushed against maynard then i'll agree, but considering he's 1-0 against him im picking him to pull off a sub. Will he ever challenge for a title, no, your probably right. But he's an exciting fighter who fans are familiar with from tuf. The UFC doesn't cut fan favorites. But who knows maybe when his contract expires he decides he wants to fight for the same org as his brother so maybe it's not that far fetched.

And the last line is just stupid. If Matt Hughes didn't lay-n-pray against serra he would have lost too

Not its nothing like that. Nick was clearly losing the fight. If he doesn't land that sub he's beaten, badly. Hughes on the other hand outstruck Serra in all but the first round and probably would have then too if it wasn't for the head butt. That isn't even considering the takedowns & as you call it lay n pray.

It's okay though. I know you love the Diaz boys and don't like me picking on little Nathan so you bring up Hughes.

im just bustin ur balls farmer. You know i respect that bible thumping red neck lol

my muay thai coach actually trained with him and said he's a really nice guy

Huerta and Aoki seem like some very available type guys that SF should be after.

Im still bewildered by Pee Wee lacking a contract with a legit org, so I'll put him on the list.

Rampage is a long term guy that makes alot of sense as well.

good ads org, Huerta especially

I could also see Nate make the switch. Family connections and all. and thus a guy that SF could go after.

Another long term is Spider given his squabbles with the UFC, and a potential Fedor superfight. The title clause will prob keep him on lockdown(unless he squirms out of the title by refusing to fight at 185, but even then the UFC would prob keep the interim tag in place).

anyone think Frank Mir would ditch to fight Fedor if Brock isnt coming back?

Rampage or Spider, what dude? Mousasi, Sheilds, Fedor or at least 1or 2 of them will probably be in the UFC in a year.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Rampage or Spider, what dude? Mousasi, Sheilds, Fedor or at least 1or 2 of them will probably be in the UFC in a year.

both guys have had serious beef with the UFC lately, granted Spider is a reach, but Rampage is a pretty legit possibility all things considered. We have already seen marquee name sign with SF and a bigtime name jump from the UFC to SF. Lets not act these are out of the realm of possibility.

Hendo was let go, it wasn't like the UFC heavily pursued him and lost out. Fedor and Mousasi are a direct result of their relationship with M-1, no M-1, they're not with SF. The real point is, ur not going to see big names like the ones u posted jumpin to SF, I'm pretty confident it will be the other way around.

The UFC most definetaetly tried to resign Hendo. I mean why did they let him go? for winning 3 straight and KO'ing Bisping?

There seems to be a growing list of reasons why guys sign on with org's other then the UFC. the avoidance of Dana's BS and the UFC's heavy handedness seem to be pretty common theme's. Both Spider and Page have railed against these things recently. Page is a def candidate, spider would be if not for the title clause.

The M-1 Strikeforce marriage seems like a good one for both. The UFC wants no part of M-1. Fedor has vested interest in M-1, and has already been thrashed in the media by Dana. Thus I don't know if Fedor bolts. Gegard follows closely in Fedor's footsteps, If Fedor doesn't jump, I'm not sure if Gegard does.

The freedom to fight for other org's and in other disciplines as seems to be enjoyed by both guys.

with both these guys on board(especially fedor) this proves an attractant for fighters in those weight classes. It certainly played a role in Hendo's decision. and will most likely continue to do so(see page and spider).

Once Shields gets beat down by Hendo he won't be a highly sought after FA, and will still have plenty of worthwhile matchups in SF.

The UFC is probably not going to cut Clay Guida and he has lost his last 3 fights. Why? Because he is a fan favorite and now that he is at the Greg Jackson camp, I can only see him getting better. Bonnar hasn't been having a good run, but he is tough, durable, and one of the biggest names in MMA. So it isn't like Leites who just stunk the joint up, getting cut.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

The UFC is probably not going to cut Clay Guida and he has lost his last 3 fights. Why? Because he is a fan favorite and now that he is at the Greg Jackson camp, I can only see him getting better. Bonnar hasn't been having a good run, but he is tough, durable, and one of the biggest names in MMA. So it isn't like Leites who just stunk the joint up, getting cut.

Is this in response to something?

Dude they low balled him, then let him walk, "heavily pursued" is what I said, yeah they tried to resign him, but had no intentions of meeting his demands. You honestly think he'd really rather be in SF than the UFC?

As far as the M-1 marriage, seems like it better for M-1 than Fedor, considering he could have been fighting in the biggest Org in the World, with a better contract for him personally (not including M-1's demands) and fighting better opponents.

Mousasi has stated multiple times he wants to fight in the UFC one day, there's only like 2 good fights for him in SF.

Sheilds as well has stated he wishes to fight in the UFC, if he loses to Hendo, he will move back down to WW, where he will still be a top FA, and there aren't many matchups at all for him at WW considering he trains with Nick.

on the one hand we have what actually happened, ie all these guys signed with SF. On the other hand we have what you think these guys want, but did not happen, ie these guys signing with the UFC.