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SOKO Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Dragon, Kenflo, Hendo, Guida, Ace, Wand, Cain, Carwin, Foreman, Evander, Oscar Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 43 Location : atlanta
| Subject: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:47 am | |
| Rua or Penn had a good shot a taking those fights.
I knew bj had no shot and rua wasnt far behind. Have to say it sucks being a fan of both knowing damn well their best days are behind them.
Nate didnt bring it like I thought he would either | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:55 am | |
| +1
Did give either a shot. Once the fight started I was rooting heavily for Penn (wasn't expecting that).
Shogun help his own. He just couldn't land the big shot.
I also expected more from Diaz. Didn't expect him to win, but expect a closer fight. One judge had it 50-43. Holy shit! | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:14 pm | |
| - SOKO wrote:
- Rua or Penn had a good shot a taking those fights.
I knew bj had no shot and rua wasnt far behind. Have to say it sucks being a fan of both knowing damn well their best days are behind them.
Nate didnt bring it like I thought he would either For sure I thought Rua had a shot. What he couldn't catch him with a big punch? Catch a leg on the ground? Rua is tough enough, strong enough, skilled enough to make me think he certainly had a shot. BJ? Not so much, just too small. We've seen this script. Enough of this 170 lb business. | |
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:02 pm | |
| Both guys had a punchers chance for sure, hell Rua was able to land some decent shots in the first round.
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Primetyme199 Brown Belt
Posts : 2916 Join date : 2009-07-30 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:34 pm | |
| I was at an amateur MMA show last night and it still amazes me how some people still blindly believe that Penn is better then everyone he faces now. They kept saying how in his interviews he says he's more focused and wants to make a statement and he's going to really bring it and destroy Rory. I kept telling them he's been saying that for all his recent fights. He's done, he needs to retire and concentrate on training and whatever else makes him happy. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:46 pm | |
| Add Penn to the list of greats from the early to mid 00s that are now done.
Fedor Liddell Hughes Ortiz Couture Pulver Sherk
A few others trending that direction Franklin Shogun Big Nog Wand Rampage
Still got it (getting smaller and smaller) Anderson GSP Hendo Belfort | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:12 pm | |
| Of course i thought they had a shot. Rory and Gus were the ones with things to prove last night. I'll always think Penn or Shogun have a shot against guys who for the most part, havent fought anybody. Thats why the are considered a major test for both fighters. They both passed. Good for them. | |
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SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:42 pm | |
| I know they had a shot but not a good one imo. Rua more so than penn but............Have to say rua rocked gus several times and dude didnt flinch much. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:09 pm | |
| Then he didn't rock him at all. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:53 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- Then he didn't rock him at all.
Ya, Rua landed some shots that Gustafson ate without much concern. I was as impressed with that then anything else he showed last night. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:41 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Then he didn't rock him at all.
Ya, Rua landed some shots that Gustafson ate without much concern.
I was as impressed with that then anything else he showed last night. Again Gus was not rocked. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:07 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Then he didn't rock him at all.
Ya, Rua landed some shots that Gustafson ate without much concern.
I was as impressed with that then anything else he showed last night. Again Gus was not rocked. See the "Ya" above. | |
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SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:19 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Then he didn't rock him at all.
Ya, Rua landed some shots that Gustafson ate without much concern.
I was as impressed with that then anything else he showed last night. Again Gus was not rocked. How bout busted in the face.............. | |
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SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:23 pm | |
| damn I get neged for keeping it real.............its not like I said rua needs to retire im just saying a champ again will be hard to come by these days and if penn wants to keep on 155 is his best shot but I would like to see him chill he has proven more than enough | |
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cheekynffc Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:32 am | |
| i will admit i thought shogun was a live underdog but penn was always going home to his daughters looking like that again. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:19 am | |
| Hate to admit it but BJ needs to retire. Shogun on the other hand just needs to train harder and bring a fucking game plan into the cage for gods sake. Or atleast a plan b if the right hand don't drop the dude. | |
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OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:33 am | |
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SOKO Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Dragon, Kenflo, Hendo, Guida, Ace, Wand, Cain, Carwin, Foreman, Evander, Oscar Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 43 Location : atlanta
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:23 pm | |
| guess someone couldnt take the truth........ | |
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:39 pm | |
| I think Rua could and should drop to Middleweight, but he won't because him and Silva are BFF's. |
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OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:44 pm | |
| - Ali wrote:
- I think Rua could and should drop to Middleweight, but he won't because him and Silva are BFF's.
I don't think he can. I'm pretty damn positive he can't and shouldn't actually. | |
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:46 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- Ali wrote:
- I think Rua could and should drop to Middleweight, but he won't because him and Silva are BFF's.
I don't think he can. I'm pretty damn positive he can't and shouldn't actually. Shogun's got the frame for Middleweight, with a conditioning coach and the proper diet he could easily make 185. |
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OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:50 pm | |
| - Ali wrote:
- OU wrote:
- Ali wrote:
- I think Rua could and should drop to Middleweight, but he won't because him and Silva are BFF's.
I don't think he can. I'm pretty damn positive he can't and shouldn't actually. Shogun's got the frame for Middleweight, with a conditioning coach and the proper diet he could easily make 185. I think you are asking too much. I think if he could "easily" do anything, he would. Doesn't seem to have the body type. | |
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| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:00 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- Ali wrote:
- OU wrote:
- Ali wrote:
- I think Rua could and should drop to Middleweight, but he won't because him and Silva are BFF's.
I don't think he can. I'm pretty damn positive he can't and shouldn't actually. Shogun's got the frame for Middleweight, with a conditioning coach and the proper diet he could easily make 185. I think you are asking too much. I think if he could "easily" do anything, he would. Doesn't seem to have the body type. Body type isn't the issue it's motivation and desire, Shogun doesn't strike me as someone who gives 110% in training. |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:01 pm | |
| Don't think it's body type. It more likely diet and type of training. | |
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cheekynffc Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : froch, hatton, benn, duran, hagler, ponce de leon Posts : 1501 Join date : 2011-07-17
| Subject: Re: Be honest did you really think............ Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:09 pm | |
| body type & metabolism will play a role.
he could probably get to 185 but whether it would be a smart thing to do is a different question entirely. | |
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