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Farmer1906
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PostSubject: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 3:18 pm

What Obama policies are going to help actually solve the economy and debt problems? I'm looking for answers from the people who voted for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 4:58 pm

Farmer when Obama took office we were losing 700,000 jobs a month
I know facts and data are hard for republocans to wrap trit head around but we have had 3 years of job growth ( not government jobs).

The proof is in the pudding buster, this election was a referendum on Obama and the majority of Americans showed have an actual understanding of what happened on 2008

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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 4:59 pm

But just to play your game, cutting tax breaks for outsorxibg is a start while giving American corporations tax breaks

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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 5:00 pm

What corps has he given tax cuts to?
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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 5:37 pm

In 2001, the last year we were in the black, the Congressional Budget Office predicted by the start of 2012 there would be cumulative surplus of 6 trillion. They couldn't at that time predict 2 separate recessions which negated over 2 trillion in that time, the array of Bush tax cuts accounting for over another 2 trillion from revenue, the war spending which could be up to another 2 trillion, and the cumulative amount of other spending during the Bush administration along with interest. By 2008 the cumulative deficit was already 10 trillion below what the CBO projected it would be. The Obama Administration has continued spending what the Bush Administration has in this 4 years with an overall addition of nearly 2 trillion (1/2 trillion domestic infrastructure recovery, and all other policies). Instead of being 6 trillion up as projected, we are 6 trillion down since 2001.

Returning to the normal tax rate, pre-bush era rates, would go a long way. Also reigning in our cumulative defense spending, being far and away excessively superior in our military reach and capabilities is draining us. A focus there would take a large chunk out of surplus spending for starters, along with tightening the belt on programs not panning out enough domestically.

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 5:56 pm

So raise taxes and spend less on military is basically what you're saying?
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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm

As a starting point, yes. Those have accounted to over 4 trillion in deficit spending in the past decade. A comparable impact to the recessions. And it's not raising taxes, it's returning them to the pre-Bush rate. Just getting rid of the high end tax cuts alone adds over a trillion in revenues in the next decade.

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

Uh, Are u fucking serious with this post bro?



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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 9:08 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
So raise taxes and spend less on military is basically what you're saying?

Only problem is Obama is not looking to spend less on military. Would be nice if he was, but he aint. Now if he can get us out of Afghan in the near future, at least then we could possibly see more of that military $$$ producing something here on the mainland.

But I think we have seen that Obama's policies have already turned the tide, 5 million new private sector jobs in the last 2 years, let that ball keep rolling. Grow the tax base, and tax the rich at a higher %.

Would love to see a politician figure out a way to keep US companies from sending jobs overseas, but I haven't seen anyone have success since that genie got out of the bottle.
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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 9:11 pm

I was saying what would be helpful. Our military can kick more then enough ass already, but when we decide to demonstrate that, it costs a lot on top.

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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyFri Nov 09, 2012 9:31 pm

Def would be helpful but it would be a turnaround from what we saw in his first term. Despite the criticisms from the right stating that Obama has weakened our defense, Obama let that part of the budget grow at a nice clip.

But if we are going with: what would we like to see Obama do? I'd say cap ALL gov't spending including pay raises, push back pension age for gov't employees, push back ages for Social Security and Medicare, and raise taxes on the 1%. I'd think republicans would be all over it, and while dem's in both houses would not, I'd think Dems in the general public would support it.

Do that for 2 years, and get the troops home from Afghan, and this would allow Obama to push more liberal agendas such as green energy and support of health care in his final 2 years.

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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 2:24 pm

Honest questions

Why do republicans want the country to fail under Obama ?

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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 9:28 pm

Birdofthad wrote:
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Why do republicans want the country to fail under Obama ?

Don't derail. Go somewhere else.
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PostSubject: Re: Honest Question   Honest Question EmptyMon Nov 12, 2012 2:05 pm

It's a fair queuing considering republican head Rance Priebus said his number 1 job wasn't fixin the economy or getting America back on track, no no he said his number 1 job was making "president Obama a one term president"


Ya but deny republicans didn't fuck up the recovery on 2010 even though those darn things called facts show otherwise!

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