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PostSubject: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:46 am

is fucking good. Its about time yall see what I've been seeing.

Faber wins 1 more then he gets beat down.

Grispi is a few wins away and that'll be Aldo's biggest challenge.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:49 am

Aldo is an absolute stud.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 1:29 am

Impressive outing.

I also did not notice that was Pedro Rizzo translating for him untill i got confirmation.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 9:24 am

He's definitely a beast. I think Faber will give him a good fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 9:35 am

this guy is the truth. I know its a little early to compare but his style reminds me of rua,spider, and machida just a hell of a striker with just a few things to tighten up. I would like to see him clear out the 145 division and put on some more muscle and experience and give some of the guys at 155 a run.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 11:08 am

who puts Aldo in the top 10 p4p? He looks like the complete package, explosive muay thai and kick boxing, good takedown defense, and i always hear about how good his ground game is and i was not let down in the Brown fight as he mounted and pounded him out within seconds of the 2nd round. Really impressive shit right there.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 11:28 am

I think Faber has a better chance against Aldo than Brown did stylewise.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 11:55 am

franklinfan2 wrote:
I think Faber has a better chance against Aldo than Brown did stylewise.

+1, the speed alone in that fight would be amazing. I want to see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:18 pm

The thing Aldo needs to work on is his movement/ not be too reliant on his speed. He looked way too content to just stand in front of Brown and trade. Aldo found his range and picked Brown apart. We'll that may not always be the case especially if he fights someone with a longer range like Grispi (74 vs 70)
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:34 pm

Brown has a good chance in a rematch. I was surprised at Aldo's takedown defense, but he also left himself open and got hit and appeared to be hurt slightly a few times in the first round. His ground game was really good though. An ugly, anti climactic ending to the fight, but impressive none the less.

This WEC event over all though was the worst I've ever seen from the promotion. None of the main fights were that great. Manny is a complete midget blanket. Razor Rob looked as good as he has ever looked but the fight he was in was average. Maybe we're spoiled by the flying triangles. I donno.

Aldo is certainly beatable though.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:37 pm

Also, the WEC and it's fighters will never be thought of in the same light as the UFC's if they keep their current promotional and production models. The stupid tribal tat junk, bad marketing of title fights and piss poor commentary and fight build up seems less and less on the UFC's level to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:45 pm

Mir > Rogan
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:50 pm

Bigs03 wrote:
Mir > Rogan

Not at commentating or in the octagon pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:55 pm

Mir sucks in all areas of life. Rogan > Mir. And I am more anti Rogan now than ever.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 12:58 pm

Aldo was impressive last night, but I agree with Wolf that he's far from unbeatable. The great thing about the FW class is that a class that was once ruled by one guy has a group at the top that can all beat eachother on any given night, I believe. Having the likes of Faber, Brown, and Grispi, Aldo is far from a lock to rule the division for any period of time. If Zuffa can drag in the likes of Sandro and Bibiano, that makes it even better. I know that he's only has a few fights, but the way that Mackens took care of business against Wagnney, he's pretty damn impressive and I think he can make noise. And of course I still think that Wagnney is in that upper echelon of the division as well. This is an exciting division because of the action and talent, and if Zuffa decides to pull it into the UFC they could really make this division a highlight division despite the size of the fighters... It may be deeper and more competitive than any division out there but LHW, IMO...
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 1:11 pm

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Aldo was impressive last night, but I agree with Wolf that he's far from unbeatable. The great thing about the FW class is that a class that was once ruled by one guy has a group at the top that can all beat eachother on any given night, I believe. Having the likes of Faber, Brown, and Grispi, Aldo is far from a lock to rule the division for any period of time. If Zuffa can drag in the likes of Sandro and Bibiano, that makes it even better. I know that he's only has a few fights, but the way that Mackens took care of business against Wagnney, he's pretty damn impressive and I think he can make noise. And of course I still think that Wagnney is in that upper echelon of the division as well. This is an exciting division because of the action and talent, and if Zuffa decides to pull it into the UFC they could really make this division a highlight division despite the size of the fighters... It may be deeper and more competitive than any division out there but LHW, IMO...

I'm with you, this division is great already and if the name UFC gets slapped on it the sky's the limit. Guys like Sherk, Joe Stevenson, and BJ Penn could likely shed 10 pounds and give that division even more star power.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 1:25 pm

Note to bigs. You named two former WW's in their thirties who already cut a bunch of weight to make LW and another guy who is already decently sized for the division. At this size, shedding ten pounds is much easier said than done, especially when you've never fought at that weight, hence the smaller gaps between weight classes. None of the fighters you named have any future at FW. In boxing, often shedding five pounds or two pounds is a gigantic task at the smaller weight classes.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 3:36 pm

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Note to bigs. You named two former WW's in their thirties who already cut a bunch of weight to make LW and another guy who is already decently sized for the division. At this size, shedding ten pounds is much easier said than done, especially when you've never fought at that weight, hence the smaller gaps between weight classes. None of the fighters you named have any future at FW. In boxing, often shedding five pounds or two pounds is a gigantic task at the smaller weight classes.

You get the point though, huh?

The good thing is, you have no idea whether Sherk or Penn could or would cut 10 pounds to fight at FW. That would probably be the only weight class Sherk would have a chance to win a belt in. Penn could move down and hold two belts...you don't know if they could cut the weight or not. They haven't had the option available to them.

Thanks for the opinion, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 4:10 pm

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He's definitely a beast. I think Faber will give him a good fight.

I think Faber needs to beat Mike Thomas Brown before he gets a shot at the title.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 4:53 pm

Like others have said, there are a lot of good fighters in the weight class but I expect Aldo to have a very healthy sized title reign
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 5:42 pm

I loved it great fight Aldo did just what I expected him to do, but can I say he is great at timing people shooting on him everytime Brown went for takedown he ate a knee or sick kick for his troubles
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 6:10 pm

He took out the champ easily. And everyone knows how tough Mike Brown is but Aldo took him out in 2 rounds. I see no way Brown wins a rematch, Aldo is way too fast for him and it's painfully obvious.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyThu Nov 19, 2009 6:32 pm

Is it just me or does Brown look like a very vulnerable fighter in his last 2. I know he beat Faber the fight prior, but Faber was fighting without either hand and still held his own. Maybe Brown was a little overhyped. He seems to be really be lacking an offense attack in these fights.

But hats off to Aldo, when you have good hand speed, big power, dangerous knees and good take down defense your going to win alot of fights.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 10:24 am

I've said it since their last fight and I'll say it again...Faber is better than Brown and would beat him in a three-match. It's a shame Faber broke his hand and injured his other hand in their rematch.

I'd love to see Faber vs. Aldo. Honestly, I don't know who I would pick. Both guys are super fast and super aggressive. I don't see that one going to decision.
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PostSubject: Re: Aldo   Aldo EmptyFri Nov 20, 2009 8:10 pm

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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Note to bigs. You named two former WW's in their thirties who already cut a bunch of weight to make LW and another guy who is already decently sized for the division. At this size, shedding ten pounds is much easier said than done, especially when you've never fought at that weight, hence the smaller gaps between weight classes. None of the fighters you named have any future at FW. In boxing, often shedding five pounds or two pounds is a gigantic task at the smaller weight classes.

You get the point though, huh?

The good thing is, you have no idea whether Sherk or Penn could or would cut 10 pounds to fight at FW. That would probably be the only weight class Sherk would have a chance to win a belt in. Penn could move down and hold two belts...you don't know if they could cut the weight or not. They haven't had the option available to them.

Thanks for the opinion, though.
I am sure they "could" but the chances of it happening are slim to none.

Sherk is still one of the premier LW fighters in the world, and he already has won the LW title, so the bit about having a chance to win the title makes little sense since besides BJ only he has held it in the recent era He also carries almost no body fat at LW. He is huge for a LW and isn't getting younger, and as you may or may not(probably not) cutting weight gets a lot harder at an older age. He never tried to wrestle BJ Penn, so we don't know if he could beat him or not. Personally I think he could. He could potentially tire BJ out over five rounds. So his chances at a LW title are still as good as anyones.

BJ Penn is just flat out too large for FW. He is perfect at the weight he is at. He wants to return to WW to challenge GSP as well. This is no secret. His work ethic has been questioned his entire life, so I highly doubt he'd drop down to relative obscurity when it's much easier to not cut weight at all and fight the UFC poster boy.

Joe Stevenson, while still probably a bit too big, might do it because of all the losses at the top at LW he has suffered, but still unlikely. If he did, does he immediately become a title contender? Maybe, maybe not.

The two most successful UFC LW's of the modern era who are both former WW fighters putting in the enormous work of dropping down to fight relative nobodies in the public eye in a much weaker weightclass talent wise is unlikely. Now, I know I am not an oracle and I don't "know" that they won't or can't, no more than I know that Lebron wont sign with the Timberwolves or The Clippers next season or that Peyton Manning wont be moved to the Raiders before the deadline, but indeed, I "know" none of these will happen, ever.

Opinions are like assholes, some stink. Yours would be one kind sir. Thanks though!
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