Flyweight rankings.

Somdet hasn't been a relevant flyweight since before anyone here besides me(wolf) knew his name.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Somdet hasn't been a relevant flyweight since before anyone here besides me(wolf) knew his name.

For someone currently lacking the knowledge to put a few list together, you sure have alot to say about other people's list. Shouldn't you be studying film so you can put together a semi competent list? You are too pussy to even throw a list together because it will show just how little MMA you have kept up with of late. You said you needed to study for an hour or 2 just to scribble some shit down, that's sad.

I knew about that dude fighting way before you so what? You see me trying to desperatly convince people that cause I hope someone will pay attention. No.

Has rankings


wont post them.


eat the corn out of my shit OU.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Has rankings


wont post them.


eat the corn out of my shit OU.

I posted all my rankings. But you admitted you don't currently possess the knowledge to do the same. Yet, you can complain about others that have that ability. You have no room to criticize anyone's list without even attempting one of your own. You are too embarrassed to use your current knowledge.

I posted flyweight rankings when you posted none, and had to call you out to get you to even post a list. And I did a full tape study prior to it including guys I did not rank. That post started somewhere else and got reposted here. And if I hadn't watched MMA for a year solid I'd know Somdet aint no fucking top ten flyweight anymore.

OU get off my dick.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I posted flyweight rankings when you posted none, and had to call you out to get you to even post a list. And I did a full tape study prior to it including guys I did not rank. That post started somewhere else and got reposted here. And if I hadn't watched MMA for a year solid I'd know Somdet aint no fucking top ten flyweight anymore.

OU get off my dick.

You posted your fly rankings. I posted mine for every weight class. Something you admitted you can't currently to with the knowledge you have at the moment. You keep deflecting that fact by calling out 1 single fighter in someones rankings. You are hanging on that alone. You disagree with 1 fighter in 1 list for both Fly and WW. You are stuck on that. So GDP watched fights and used what he saw to give his rankings. You did your research for a couple hours and came back with 1 list for 1 weight class based on what you read. Yet, you have the balls to question the opinions of others. So much fail in there. Watch MMA, make a list without a gun forced to your head, get back to me when you are better prepared.

OU wrote:

LOL, like you have seen a flyweight fight outside of the UFC. You funny.

OU wrote:

I guess, I can't recall a single Dodson fight before TUF. Must have slipped under my radar.

Later that same thread...

OU wrote:

I saw him fight pre-TUF.

Let this be a lesson against the dangers of dick-riding everyone.

Like I said, his performance didn't stick out in my mind. I forgot about the guy. I saw the Runez fight before he ever got on TUF. Just forgot that was him.

OU wrote:

Like I said, his performance didn't stick out in my mind. I forgot about the guy. I saw the Runez fight before he ever got on TUF. Just forgot that was him.

cool story bro.

With Mongooses win, I am gonna move him up one to ten and drop Lineker to 11. I would have had it the other way around but that dude's finishing ability at the weight class is unreal.

Montague is criminally low on your list, Wolf.

It is possible. During my rankings I started with him higher but kept moving him down notches. I like Lineker a lot too though. Mongoose and him would be a great battle. Wouldn't know who to pick there.

Ludo wrote:

Montague is criminally low on your list, Wolf.

Who would you kick off? Have you seen a lot of Linekers stuff? The guy is a beast. There is a ton of his fights on youtube. Tossing 55'rs around. Jungle fight 135 champ. If his last fight wasn't a loss(granted he lost to a serious bad ass in the division) I still would keep him over Mongoose. I might kick one of the Japanese guys off and stick Mongoose on actually.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Ludo wrote:

Montague is criminally low on your list, Wolf.

Who would you kick off? Have you seen a lot of Linekers stuff? The guy is a beast. There is a ton of his fights on youtube. Tossing 55'rs around. Jungle fight 135 champ. If his last fight wasn't a loss(granted he lost to a serious bad ass in the division) I still would keep him over Mongoose. I might kick one of the Japanese guys off and stick Mongoose on actually.

Gaudinot isn't a badass in any division. Even during the fight with Lineker it was very clear Gaudinot needs alot of work standing. He got caught watching way too much while getting lit up with one-two's and other combos without even thinking about throwing a counter. It was like if Louis wasn't initiating he didn't feel comfortable throwing anything. Lineker's bottom game leaves alot to be desired though and it cost him a fight he was winning handily to that point. I would dump Lineker out, toss Elliot down the list if even rank him in the top ten, and bust Dodson down at least below Montague given his last fight was much closer than it should have been against a guy he should have crushed. Dodson shouldn't be above Urishitani given Urishitani's standing in the division while Dodson isn't far removed from other performances underneath his talent and potential. Yamaguchi, Lineker, Elliot are candidates for 9-10 at best in My opinion.

1. Creepy , Uncle
2. Mighty mouse
3 benavideZ
4. Jussier da silva
5. UrushitAni
6. Montague
7. Dodson
8. Gaudinet
9. Elliot
10. Ochi

I disagree with the "standing in the division" meaning guy A shouldn't be above guy B. When clearly stylistically B. won't do nearly as well against American competition. Gaudinot and Dodson have been hyped and known about in this division for years. Their standing in the division matters to. Josh Rave is another guy I was talking about years ago, and Elliot beat him. Plus he looked awesome even in losing to Dodson. I don't think much of Shooto guys when it comes to making the transition to the states. How many Japanese guys still compete and win at 135? You can go back for years and find me saying the same thing, and talking up Gaudinot and Dodson.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I disagree with the "standing in the division" meaning guy A shouldn't be above guy B. When clearly stylistically B. won't do nearly as well against American competition. Gaudinot and Dodson have been hyped and known about in this division for years. Their standing in the division matters to. Josh Rave is another guy I was talking about years ago, and Elliot beat him. Plus he looked awesome even in losing to Dodson. I don't think much of Shooto guys when it comes to making the transition to the states. How many Japanese guys still compete and win at 135? You can go back for years and find me saying the same thing, and talking up Gaudinot and Dodson.

For years? Gaudinot is 6-2 in his just over three year career. Not much to "talk up" there since he's only fought twice since september of 2010, unless you include TUF where he only fought twice more. Dodson has more meat on the bone with fights to talk up but he's wildly inconsistent, and I realize this is partly due to a lack of flyweight opponents for a long time. Like I said before Dodson has all the tools to be a force in this division, but his knack for performing underneath his potential keeps him from doing it. Since coming stateside Mizugaki has really only lost to champions and contenders at 135. That Cariaso decision was bunk.

Quote :

* Alexis Vila (8-0), Coconut Creek, Florida
* Mamoru Yamaguchi (25-5-3), Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan
* John Dodson (9-5), Albuquerque, New Mexico
* Louis Gaudinot(5-1), New Jersey- current Ring of Combat 125 lb. champion.
* Abel Cullum (10-4), Tucumcari, New Mexico- former KOTC 125 lb. champion.
* Josh Rave (19-7), Omaha,Nebraska
* Nick Cottone (9-2-1), Pine Hill, New Jersey

From a blog post in Nov 2010 discussing flyweights. (no aspie response about this not being over 2 years needed )