Flyweight rankings.

Flyweight rankings are difficult to do even for many hardcore MMA fans since most of the division's history has been in Shooto which is nearly impossible to watch in the USA or in Pancrase, which is the same exact story. In the USA over the last couple years Tachi Palace Fighting has been setting the stage for the UFC's division, but I wonder how well the fanbase really knows the flyweight division of a casino show. Most of us just haven't seen many of the relevant flyweights in action.

The Sherdog top ten still kinda dickrides shooto fighters they've had woodies for years for, like "BJ" and this new guy who beat him, Nam Jin Jo. I imagine the rankings over the next year, like with the BW and FW rankings a few years ago, will steadily move away from the shooto guys towards the UFC fighters. I imagine Jon Dodson will kick BJ or one of those other foreign promotion fighters off at the next update. TPF will lose their best guys to the UFC and the ones who stay will fall in the rankings.

Fight Matrix just updated their rankings after this UFC card and they're pretty good as far as I can tell.

The UFC has 9 flyweights. Partially because of the lower profile of Asian fighters and partially because Japanese fighters tend to get their asses kicked when faced with American wrestlers who can punch and defend submissions, I have a strong urge to put most of the UFC guys in the top ten over the Asian guys, even if they've been ranked longer.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings...Rankings-42147
http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/flyweight/
http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Weight_Class/Flyweight

Mine :

1. Joseph Benavidez - His power is nuts at this weight class. The UFC made flyweight for him
2. Ian McCall - Stash power. This guy is so cool I hate to root against him in favor of DJ.
3. Demetrious Johnson - Fastest fighter ever in Zuffa. I want him to win a good fight against McCall so we can see him fight Benavidez.
4. John Dodson - Dodson is another one of those guys this weight class was created for. It is good to finally see him in the UFC.
5. Jussier De Silva - Time to ditch Tachi Palace and the regional shows. The UFC would probably have more interest if he had some TKO wins.
6. Louis Goudinot - Being a finisher is important in this weight class. Lets see him fight Dodson next.
7. Tim Elliot - Should have thrown more spin kicks late in the fight against Dodson.
8. Yasuhiro Urushitani - Coming from Shooto directly to the UFC to fight Joseph Benavidez is a recipe for disaster.
9. Mamaru Yamaguchi - This guy has been fighting stateside for a while now and can finish fights. He is a must-sign for the UFC.
10. John Lineker - Cause UFC. Whatever. Not really. This guy is a stud and the jungle fight 135 champ, fighting above his natural weight. Most every fight he has ever had was against guys much bigger than him, including many wins over 155'rs.

LOL, like you have seen a flyweight fight outside of the UFC. You funny.

Have you even seen Mongoose or Useless fight before?

No rankings OU? Didn't think so.

Which one of us posted about flyweights in 2010?

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t10384-the-ufc-should-book-demetrious-johnson-and-joseph-benavidez-for-the-flyweight-title?highlight=flyweight

I was one of the biggest supporters of these guys coming over. I doubt you caught every single TPF card either dude, even with all the sexual overtones with your McCall fanboy thingy.

I've seen plenty of TPF cards. Been here when they happened live. Didn't see you around...

OU wrote:

Have you even seen Mongoose or Useless fight before?

all the tachi youtube ones + WEC for gomez. No diff than you.

OU wrote:

I've seen plenty of TPF cards. Been here when they happened live. Didn't see you around...

Im surprised you didn't make the pilgrimage to the Tachi Palace so you could ask him if you could keep his fight shorts to sniff while you finger your asshole.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

OU wrote:

I've seen plenty of TPF cards. Been here when they happened live. Didn't see you around...

Im surprised you didn't make the pilgrimage to the Tachi Palace so you could ask him if you could keep his fight shorts to sniff while you finger your asshole.

Coming from the man that just trimmed the hair on HD's nuts? LOL, OK. Creepy is the man and he actually produces in the cage.

Where are your rankings?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Where are your rankings?

You want me to rank the flys? I love the flys. Why don't you do your rankings? Why don't you stop pretending like you watch a fraction of the fights I do. Fake ass.

OU I missed 6 months of regular fight cards because I was busy with some pretty serious real life family stuff. Get off your 12 inch lubricated vibrating studded black dildo shaped pedestal. You're annoying.

I've watched more live Pride, live IFL, ordered more UFC, more all night live Dream and K1, more early seasons of Bellator, more Strikeforce than you. And even if that weren't true, I've still watched more MMA in the last five years than 99% of all people on the planet. Not like this matters.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

OU I missed 6 months of regular fight cards because I was busy with some pretty serious real life family stuff. Get off your 12 inch lubricated vibrating studded black dildo shaped pedestal. You're annoying.

I've watched more live Pride, live IFL, ordered more UFC, more all night live Dream and K1, more early seasons of Bellator, more Strikeforce than you. And even if that weren't true, I've still watched more MMA in the last five years than 99% of all people on the planet. Not like this matters.

I see I struck a nerve. But you are the one attacking me because of your current lack of knowledge. You just keep deflecting. Attacking my views on rankings, Bellator and fighters in general. You acknowledge that I watch fights but don't like my fighter analysis. I'm fine with that, I think you got shit wack as well. Why get mad at me for ranking Hawn when you keep leaving the door open to do the same in your next ranking? From what I have seen so far the man deserves the love now. You want to wait, that's fine. I've been wrong before. But from what I have personally witnessed, that man is legit right now.

Not me. His power is nice but his speed and technique and footwork etc would get him exploited against elite fighters. Weedman is pretty average and if he can't dust him up impressively he doesn't move in my rankings.

I like Hawn but he hasn't shown me WEC type skills yet.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Not me. His power is nice but his speed and technique and footwork etc would get him exploited against elite fighters. Weedman is pretty average and if he can't dust him up impressively he doesn't move in my rankings.

I like Hawn but he hasn't shown me WEC type skills yet.

You can make up for speed when you have a chin and power. Just ask Hendo. Maynard doesn't have good speed and footwork either. His standup is improved but mainly he just has power. I like this dudes mentality, I like his skill set, love his chin and power.

Maynard has great footwork...wtf...

Ok dude.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Maynard has great footwork...wtf...

Ok dude.

Improved, but great? lol, OK. That's the only issue with my post? I look forward to the day you flop on Hawn and then say "dude I told you he was talented, get off". Hawn is legit, live with it.

Man, this site has become stale as fuck lol

bobbitt15 wrote:

Man, this site has become stale as fuck lol

No kidding.

OU, I said a week ago Hawn is a good fighter and could move up the...you know, nevermind.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Man, this site has become stale as fuck lol

No kidding.

OU, I said a week ago Hawn is a good fighter and could move up the...you know, nevermind.

Yeah yeah, but in the same breath you can say it's crazy to currently rank him #10. "Yeah he is talented enough to be ranked eventually, but I'm too scared to rank him now so LOL at you for doing so". Lame. You sure do leave alot of wiggle room to flop around.

Grow up dude. You're really acting like an asshat lately. I said something like I see him top 25 but could see him moving up. Hell no he aint no top ten LW. This isn't leaving room to "flop" as much as "sane MMA opinion". He has 2 fghts in the division, is older, and has some flaws I've pointed out. He aint beat nobody to be no fucking top ten. But he has power and legit skills, and despite his age, seems to be improving.

Pretty standard analysis but at the rate you keep pestering me about this I'm going to start rooting against the guy.

OU you make talking about MMA agonizing.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Grow up dude. You're really acting like an asshat lately. I said something like I see him top 25 but could see him moving up. Hell no he aint no top ten LW. This isn't leaving room to "flop" as much as "sane MMA opinion". He has 2 fghts in the division, is older, and has some flaws I've pointed out. He aint beat nobody to be no fucking top ten. But he has power and legit skills, and despite his age, seems to be improving.

Pretty standard analysis but at the rate you keep pestering me about this I'm going to start rooting against the guy.

OU you make talking about MMA agonizing.

Yeah yeah, your "act" is old. Education continues...

1 McCall
2 Benazidez
3 Silva
4 Johnson
5 Urushitani
6 Dodson
7 Montague
8 Somdet
9 Gaudinot
10 Elliot

1. Joseph Benavidez
2. Ian McCall
3. Demetrious Johnson
4 Jussier Da Silva
5. Yasuhiro Urushitani
6. Darrell Montague
7. John Dodson
8. Louis Gaudinot
9. John Lineker
10. Shinichi Kojima

GDPofDRC wrote:

1 McCall
2 Benazidez
3 Silva
4 Johnson
5 Urushitani
6 Dodson
7 Montague
8 Somdet
9 Gaudinot
10 Elliot

lol