The tomb was empty

Wolfgangsta wrote:

These are all facts that cannot be disputed from the Bible.

God is good.
God knows everything and is perfect.
God creates light and darkness and night and day before the Sun and Moon.
God took six days to make the Earth, but one day to create the rest of the universe.
God creates the human race and Satan.
God acts surprised when they fuck up.
God acts surprised when people wanna have anal sex.
God drowns most of the world for sexual immorality including children besides six people who have incest babies repopulate the world.
God sees bronze age people building a tower and it scares him, thinking they'll get to heaven.
God then confuses the languages of the world.
God orders the murder and rape of countless infants and women.
God destroys Sodom and Gomorrah and all the children in the city for immorality but spares one guy who offered his daughters as sex slaves to a mob, because it saved two immortal angels.
God doesn't seem to mind when those daughters get drunk and rape their dad. No destruction.
God gives instructions on how to sell and treat slaves, including sex slaves.
God is immortal.
God sends his immortal self into the body of Jesus.
God talks to himself a lot.
God who made the Earth is tempted by Satan who offers him the....Earth...
God dies for a couple days but isn't actually dead, because he is God.
God tells people his death justifies all sin.
God tells Slaves to obey their master because it is Christ like.
God forgets to condemn pedophilia, racism, slavery or pollution in the bible.
God orders rape victims and homosexuals to be killed.
God remembers to command people not to cook a baby goat in its mother's milk.

I have a feeling you haven't read the bible, just an atheist blog.

Dispute me nigga.

COME AT ME.

Bring God too.

What is wrong with any of them factoids?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Dispute me nigga.

COME AT ME.

Bring God too.

What is wrong with any of them factoids?

Really?

Thought so.

SO why do you believe in this noise farmer?

Ali wrote:

Ludo wrote:

How is it people are so un-educated about the basics here? Freak has an excuse because he's muslim and likely never had the inclination to learn much about Christianity but come on. I'm not even religious and I knew what Farmer was getting at when he started this thread. What other tomb would someone be talking about on easter sunday?

i.love.you

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Thought so.

SO why do you believe in this noise farmer?

Not noise. Truth. Open your heart. Its not too late, Wolf.

Explain to me evolution then.

Explain what Jesus did exactly.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Explain to me evolution then.

Explain what Jesus did exactly.

Evolution is a made up thing to get people not to believe in God.

Jesus did many miracles like raise the dead but he is no God.

freakzilla wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Explain to me evolution then.

Explain what Jesus did exactly.

Evolution is a made up thing to get people not to believe in God.

Jesus did many miracles like raise the dead but he is no God.

Freak, do you really believe people made up all the fossil evidence? what about the genetic evidence? What about the evolution of bacteria and viruses?

What about the new species of animals that have evolved over the last hundred years...?

Do you think maybe god works with evolution? That I could at least believe but not believing in evolution at all is bat shit fucking crazy. That is akin to not believing in the Earth being round, the moon landing, denying the holocaust ever happened etc

There was no moon landing!

I don't rule out all types of evolution. Lizards coming from dinosaurs and stuff like that I can believe but I don't for 1 second believe we came from monkeys.

I find the Mulsim beliefs on Jesus to be just as far fetched as the Christian beliefs. So Jesus wasn't the son of God only a profit. But he was given the ability to perform miracles and he was still born to a virgin mother. But he was mortal? He was called up by God and will return to defeat the Anti-Christ/false messiah(forget what the Muslim term for this is) before the end of the World. The reason they call it "faith" is you have to forget all logic and common sense to buy into these stories. They are not intended for people that intend to think for themselves.

OU wrote:

I find the Mulsim beliefs on Jesus to be just as far fetched as the Christian beliefs. So Jesus wasn't the son of God only a profit. But he was given the ability to perform miracles and he was still born to a virgin mother. But he was mortal? He was called up by God and will return to defeat the Anti-Christ/false messiah(forget what the Muslim term for this is) before the end of the World. The reason they call it "faith" is you have to forget all logic and common sense to buy into these stories. They are not intended for people that intend to think for themselves.

Christians believe he comes back and does this also.

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

I find the Mulsim beliefs on Jesus to be just as far fetched as the Christian beliefs. So Jesus wasn't the son of God only a profit. But he was given the ability to perform miracles and he was still born to a virgin mother. But he was mortal? He was called up by God and will return to defeat the Anti-Christ/false messiah(forget what the Muslim term for this is) before the end of the World. The reason they call it "faith" is you have to forget all logic and common sense to buy into these stories. They are not intended for people that intend to think for themselves.

Christians believe he comes back and does this also.

Yeah I know, both versions are just as crazy. I don't remember learning/hearing about Jesus coming back to battle the anti-Christ, just coming back for final judgement before the end of the World. Jews believe the Messiah is still to come and if I remember correctly they classify Jesus as a false Messiah.

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

I find the Mulsim beliefs on Jesus to be just as far fetched as the Christian beliefs. So Jesus wasn't the son of God only a profit. But he was given the ability to perform miracles and he was still born to a virgin mother. But he was mortal? He was called up by God and will return to defeat the Anti-Christ/false messiah(forget what the Muslim term for this is) before the end of the World. The reason they call it "faith" is you have to forget all logic and common sense to buy into these stories. They are not intended for people that intend to think for themselves.

Christians believe he comes back and does this also.

Yeah I know, both versions are just as crazy. I don't remember learning/hearing about Jesus coming back to battle the anti-Christ, just coming back for final judgement before the end of the World. Jews believe the Messiah is still to come and if I remember correctly they classify Jesus as a false Messiah.

Yep, that is correct.

I'm seeing a pattern here

Horus

Born 3000 B.C, 25th December
Egyptian God
Born of a virgin (Isis-Merion =Mary)
His father was called “Seb” = Joseph
Adorned by 3 Kings
Star in the east
Teacher at the age of 12
Baptized at the age of 30
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, walking on water etc...
Known as “the lamb of God/ the light” etc...
Betrayed & Crucified
Dead for 3 days
And thus resurrected

Attis

Born 1700 B.C, 25th December
Greek God
Born of a virgin (Nana)
Star in the east
Teacher at the age of 12
Baptized at the age of 30
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, walking on water etc...
Known as “the lamb of God/ the light” etc...
Betrayed & Crucified
Dead for 3 days
And thus resurrected on March 25

Mithra

Born 1200 B.C, 25th December
Persian God
Born of a virgin
His birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts
Star in the east
Worshiped on Sundays
Baptized at the age of 30
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, walking on water etc...
Known as “the Good Shepherd/ the light” etc...
Betrayed & Crucified
Dead for 3 days
And thus resurrected

Krishna

Born 900 B.C, 25th December
Indian God
Born of a virgin (Devaki)
Adorned by 3 Kings
Star in the east
Teacher at the age of 12
Was a Carpenter
Baptized at the age of 30
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, walking on water etc...
Known as “the lamb of God/ the light” etc...
Betrayed & Crucified
Dead for 3 days
And thus resurrected

Zoroaster/Zarathustra

Born 628 B.C, 25th December
Iranian Prophet
Born of a virgin (“immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.”)
He astounded wise men with his wisdom
Star in the east
He began his ministry at age 30
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, walking on water etc...
Known as “the lamb of God/ the light” etc...
He was slain
He had a sacred cup or grail.
And thus resurrected
Zoroaster’s followers expected a “second coming” in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior

Jesus Christ

Born 4 B.C, Month unknown, (Celebrated on the 25th December)
Christian God
Born of a virgin (Mary)
Adorned by 3 Kings
Star in the east
Teacher at the age of 12
Was also a Carpenter
Baptized at the age of 30 and started his ministry
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, walking on water, turned water into wine, etc...
Known as “the lamb of God/ the light” etc...
Betrayed & Crucified
Dead for 3 days
And thus resurrected

Dionysus

Born 200 A.D, 25th December
Greek God
Born of a virgin
Star in the east
Teacher at the age of 12
Baptized at the age of 30
Had 12 disciples
Preformed miracles i.e. Healing the sick, Turning water into wine etc...
Known as “the king of kings/ the Alpha & Omega” etc...
Betrayed & Crucified
Dead for 3 days
And thus resurrected

Jesus isn't just a Christian God. He is a Muslim Prophet. Both religions believe he will return to Earth before the end of the World. Jews don't believe he met the requirements to be a Messiah, he did not fulfill what they believe the Messiah will. So they label him a false Messiah. The refuse to acknowledge him as a son of God or as a messenger between God and people. There are other religions that recognize Jesus as some sort of prophet.

Buddha could go on that list two.

freakzilla wrote:

I don't rule out all types of evolution. Lizards coming from dinosaurs and stuff like that I can believe but I don't for 1 second believe we came from monkeys.

Good, no one else does either.

Evolution is the least understood theory I've ever seen. That and the Big Bang.

Humans and monkeys last common ancestor lived about 37 million years ago they think.

http://phys.org/news166891773.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

The last known possible ancestor to monkeys, apes and man was this fella :

Aegyptopithecus

he looks very monkey like, but is not a modern monkey.

FREAK, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?

Don't believe it. I believe in Adam and Eve. Not saying that creature didn't exist but I don't think humans came from it.

What do you think of these pics?

Freak why do genetic studies and archeological evidence all directly counter the adam and eve story?

Freak, the creature listed earlier was simply the last guy known in common to apes, monkeys and humans. Human ancestry is fairly well understood since then.

The adam and eve fable is totally unbelievable. Have ya'll see what happens to the offspring of kin before? What we're talking about is an entire population spawning from one bloodline. Inbreeding degeneration would have given the children extra chromosomes at least two generations down the line which would likely have brought a serious halt in baby production.