MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...

Cain is 1, Fedor2, JDS is 4 because Brock would eat him alive. Brock is 3. I also think Reem could beat all of them in a way???

Cain made me a believer tonight. If he gets past JDS and Carwin then I can't see anybody beating him for a long time.

My Heavyweight Rankings-

01. Cain Velasquez
02. Fedor Emelianenko
03. Fabricio Werdum
04. Brock Lesnar
05. Junior dos Santos
06. Shane Carwin
07. Allistar Overeem
08. Frank Mir
09. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
10. Josh Barnett

yeah cain went along way for me tonight aswell. Before i doubted cause he couldnt finish kongo and I think Nog is done

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Cain
4. JDS
5. Overeem
6. Carwin
7. Lesnar
8. Antonio Silva
9. Frank Mir
10. Roy Nelson


Josh Barnett is as good as anyone on this list though.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Cain
4. JDS
5. Overeem
6. Carwin
7. Lesnar
8. Antonio Silva
9. Frank Mir
10. Roy Nelson


Josh Barnett is as good as anyone on this list though.

Lesnar beat Carwin 3 months ago so he can't be ranked lower.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Cain
4. JDS
5. Overeem
6. Carwin
7. Lesnar
8. Antonio Silva
9. Frank Mir
10. Roy Nelson


Josh Barnett is as good as anyone on this list though.

Lesnar beat Carwin 3 months ago so he can't be ranked lower.

Rankings are subjective, Wolf can place him anywhere he wants, it's hit list.

Also Overeem has beaten no one to be ranked 5th.

Show me where that is a rule. Carwin is the better fighter. If Anderson Silva lost tonight I'd rank Sonnen over him as well. Carwin would destroy Brock if they fought again, brutally.

Ali wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Cain
4. JDS
5. Overeem
6. Carwin
7. Lesnar
8. Antonio Silva
9. Frank Mir
10. Roy Nelson


Josh Barnett is as good as anyone on this list though.

Lesnar beat Carwin 3 months ago so he can't be ranked lower.

Rankings are subjective, Wolf can place him anywhere he wants, it's hit list.

Lolllllllllllllll. Brock BEAT Carwin. If you rank Carwin higher then it shows that either you're biased or you don't know what you're talking about.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Also Overeem has beaten no one to be ranked 5th.

Kind of a point there. Overeem is ranked so highly for the same reason Lesnar was. Potential.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Ali wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Cain
4. JDS
5. Overeem
6. Carwin
7. Lesnar
8. Antonio Silva
9. Frank Mir
10. Roy Nelson


Josh Barnett is as good as anyone on this list though.

Lesnar beat Carwin 3 months ago so he can't be ranked lower.

Rankings are subjective, Wolf can place him anywhere he wants, it's hit list.

Lolllllllllllllll. Brock BEAT Carwin. If you rank Carwin higher then it shows that either you're biased or you don't know what you're talking about.

This isn't a straight who beat who science. Carwin is more dangerous. Carwin would win. Lesnar has done nothing but get his ass kicked for two fights. Carwin was a useless zombie suffering from lactic acidosis by the start of the second round in the first fight. He won't be able to count on that again.

Lesnar has beat Couture, Mir and Carwin who were all top 10 when he beat them. Overeem has 1 victory over a borderline top 10 in Rogers.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Ali wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Cain
4. JDS
5. Overeem
6. Carwin
7. Lesnar
8. Antonio Silva
9. Frank Mir
10. Roy Nelson


Josh Barnett is as good as anyone on this list though.

Lesnar beat Carwin 3 months ago so he can't be ranked lower.

Rankings are subjective, Wolf can place him anywhere he wants, it's hit list.

Lolllllllllllllll. Brock BEAT Carwin. If you rank Carwin higher then it shows that either you're biased or you don't know what you're talking about.

This isn't a straight who beat who science. Carwin is more dangerous. Carwin would win. Lesnar has done nothing but get his ass kicked for two fights. Carwin was a useless zombie suffering from lactic acidosis by the start of the second round in the first fight. He won't be able to count on that again.

So you're basing your rankings on what might happen next time and ignoring the facts.

Cain
Brock
Carwin
Reem
JDS
Fedor
Werdum
Silva
Roy
Mir

I don't argue any of that. But Overeem has looked like a destroyer of souls in K1. He has a dangerous submission game and is huge and strong now. I'd still like to see him exposed. I had him outside of the top ten until he destroyed Rogers. I'm kind of getting caught up in the hype here like Lesnar fans were. He is experienced and extremely well rounded though, and has been a monster in K1, so the situations arent exactly the same. Lesnar was a complete house of cards.

The facts make me think Carwin is the better fighter. I didnt have Carwin ahead of Lesnar until this loss. My ranking strategy is valid.

Rankings are also based on performances, and Brock's not looked good at all in his last two fights. The only reason Brock submitted Carwin was because Shane punched himself out in the first round.

If you use excuses so can other people.....

LA wrote:

Cain
Brock
Carwin
Reem
JDS
Fedor
Werdum
Silva
Roy
Mir

Fedor below all them niggas w Brock 2? You trippin

Wolfgangsta wrote:

LA wrote:

Cain
Brock
Carwin
Reem
JDS
Fedor
Werdum
Silva
Roy
Mir

Fedor below all them niggas w Brock 2? You trippin

No different then ur trippin rankings.

Brock was never very good, Fedor has dominated for untold centuries.

I like who beats who as part of my ranks, Plus you had Cain 3, Werdum 1....Cain would fucking destory Werdum, hell I think he'd beat Fedor at this point, shitsa changin

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I don't argue any of that. But Overeem has looked like a destroyer of souls in K1. He has a dangerous submission game and is huge and strong now. I'd still like to see him exposed. I had him outside of the top ten until he destroyed Rogers. I'm kind of getting caught up in the hype here like Lesnar fans were. He is experienced and extremely well rounded though, and has been a monster in K1, so the situations arent exactly the same. Lesnar was a complete house of cards.

K1 isn't MMA. All that matters is who has he beat in MMA.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

LA wrote:

Cain
Brock
Carwin
Reem
JDS
Fedor
Werdum
Silva
Roy
Mir

Fedor below all them niggas w Brock 2? You trippin

He is tripping but they're more realistic than yours.