MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Lesnar
4. Cain
5. JDS
6. Carwin
7. Oveeem
8. Frank Mir
9. Bigfoot
10. Big Nog I guess but I am half tempted to stick CC in here instead as I think Mirko could win more UFC fights going forward.

People will say I am being bias against Lesnar but I don't think getting plastered for most of the fight and barely surviving long enough so your opponent gasses out is worth the absolute BJJ wizardry Werdum put on Fedor, and I don't think Fedor should drop more than a spot off the top. By default Lesnar takes a back seat.

Had he dominated he'd be higher, or had Carwin got the finish he'd be 2 and Fedor'd be three. Werdum would be my number 1 regardless.

In ur honest, no bullshit opinion, would Brock beat Werdum and Fedor? and hw about Carwin?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

1. Werdum
2. Fedor
3. Lesnar
4. Cain
5. JDS
6. Carwin
7. Oveeem
8. Frank Mir
9. Bigfoot
10. Big Nog I guess but I am half tempted to stick CC in here instead as I think Mirko could win more UFC fights going forward.

People will say I am being bias against Lesnar but I don't think getting plastered for most of the fight and barely surviving long enough so your opponent gasses out is worth the absolute BJJ wizardry Werdum put on Fedor, and I don't think Fedor should drop more than a spot off the top. By default Lesnar takes a back seat.

Had he dominated he'd be higher, or had Carwin got the finish he'd be 2 and Fedor'd be three. Werdum would be my number 1 regardless.

Werdum vs Fedor again, or lesnar and Carwin. Who wins? Also fight one, fuck one, marry one GO....

Brock could beat them. They could just as easily beat him.

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Brock would destroy Werdum.

Unless Werdum sub'd his ass.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Unless Werdum sub'd his ass.

Half serious, half smartass question - how do you choke out someone who doesn't have a neck?

Werdum will never be in a position to put a sub in. Brock won't do the same mistake Fedor did.

He has a giant neck actually. Sometimes those larger builds actually make legchokes worse. Short of a powerbomb which is possible I think Werdum could easily triangle Lesnar. Lot's of people talk foolishness about Lesnar being anatomically unable to submit or whatever but I'd like to see an example anywhere in MMA history where someone's windpipe, jugular or joints couldn't be articulated.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He has a giant neck actually. Sometimes those larger builds actually make legchokes worse. Short of a powerbomb which is possible I think Werdum could easily triangle Lesnar. Lot's of people talk foolishness about Lesnar being anatomically unable to submit or whatever but I'd like to see an example anywhere in MMA history where someone's windpipe, jugular or joints couldn't be articulated.

Lesnar would throw him on the ground and brake his back. I think he is too big up top for Werdum to do that to him. Hulk smash!

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He has a giant neck actually. Sometimes those larger builds actually make legchokes worse. Short of a powerbomb which is possible I think Werdum could easily triangle Lesnar. Lot's of people talk foolishness about Lesnar being anatomically unable to submit or whatever but I'd like to see an example anywhere in MMA history where someone's windpipe, jugular or joints couldn't be articulated.

Lesnar would throw him on the ground and brake his back. I think he is too big up top for Werdum to do that to him. Hulk smash!

lol @ hulk smash! i love it!

To many variables to say for sure on Brock vs Fedor, though I would lean Brock right now. I think Werdum might get killed fighting Brock. If Werdum fights Fedor again, Fedor will school him properly this time, unless his tire keeps inflating.

You guys know the deal, resume not overly important, just simply your rankings of who can beat who among the current HWs.

Brock, Carwin, Cain and maybe JDS can beat any alleged great HW who doesn't fight in the UFC...

Brock
Fedor
Ubereem
Carwin
Jr
Cain

As big of a puncher and as strong as he is, I still think until proven otherwise Carwin would have trouble with guys really skilled on the feet like Fedor and Alistair given his total lack of head movement. Dos Santos could pinpoint a shot on him as well. He's never faced the kind of striker yet that could take advantage

Brock beats all to me with Carwin and Fedor close behind.

Cain is by far the most skilled and well rounded fighter at heavyweight, and beats everyone more often than not. Brock follows it up with great athleticism and wrestling. Carwin with his power. Fedor with his well rounded skills follows up that pack, Junior dos Santos comes in there with his great power and awesome standup skills. He could be higher, but too many question marks with the ground game. Werdum follows it up with his top of the foodchain grappling and decent power.

01. Brock Lesnar
02. Fedor Emelianenko
03. Shane Carwin
04. Cain Velasquez
05. Allistar Overeem
06. Frank Mir
07. Junior dos Santos
08. Fabricio Werdum
09. Brett Rogers
10. Antonio Silva

Good thread concept LA and it isn't your fault most missed the point.

Some will still post in it, Freak got it

Brock
Fedor/Carwin - not sure honestly who to put first, Carwin is such a fucking beast, I don't know how Fedor would deal with his power, be a great fight.
Cain
Dos Santos
Reem
Werdum
Big Foot
Big Country
Mir

I typically prefer a more tangible ranking approach that factors titles and resume into the picture, but these types of rankings are fun too. It's the rankings we deep down really want to do. If we treat the last two weeks as game 1's of a best of three series and throw out resumes and ranking prestege/position based from titles, here goes.

1. Fedor
2. Cain
3. Carwin
4. Brock
5. JDS
6. Overeem
7. Fabrico Werdum
8. Antonio Silva
9. Roy Nelson
10. Frank Mir

I'm not giving automatic byes to Lesnar and Werdum because they got the W. Neither did anything to make me believe they'd win a rematch. Not to discredit Lesnar or Werdum and their both amazing fighters, but I just wouldn't pick them again. If this really is who-beat-who then that makes the most sense to me.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

You guys know the deal, resume not overly important, just simply your rankings of who can beat who among the current HWs.

Cain

GDPofDRC wrote:

I will tabulate a ranking from any list in a new post starting Sunday the 29th.

Changed the date, will tabulate around the same time as the divisional rankings, so about a week. Be sure to edit your picks made after Sunday June 29th if you already made a list or create picks if you have not yet done so.

GDP I updated my picks, which are on the first page, thanks for the effort.

http://www.mmarising.com/rankings/unified-womens-mixed-martial-arts-rankings/


The Unified Women’s Mixed Martial Arts Rankings, formerly the WAMMA Women’s Rankings, are assembled each month by a panel of journalists from multiple MMA websites and publications. These rankings are the only official women’s mixed martial arts rankings by division and weight class.

Fighters who have not competed within the past 12 months are not eligible to be ranked.



Featherweights (136-145 pounds):

1. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos (10-1-0)
2. Marloes “Rumina” Coenen (17-4-0)
3. Gina “Conviction” Carano (7-1-0)
4. Hiroko Yamanaka (9-1-1)
5. Cindy “Battlecat” Dandois (4-0-0)
6. Amanda “Lioness of the Ring” Nunes (5-1-0)
7. Shana “Rock Solid” Olsen (4-0-0)
8. Jamie Seaton (2-1-0)
9. Yoko Takahashi (14-11-3)
10. Emily “Timebomb” Thompson (3-2-0)



Bantamweights (126-135 pounds):

1. Sarah Kaufman (11-0-0)
2. Roxanne Modafferi (15-5-0)
3. Tara LaRosa (18-2-0)
4. Shayna “The Queen of Spades” Baszler (12-6-0)
5. Takayo Hashi (12-2-0)
6. Hitomi “Girlfight Monster” Akano (15-7-0)
7. Vanessa Porto (10-4-0)
8. Alexis Davis (8-3-0)
9. Julie “Fireball” Kedzie (14-8-0)
10. Miesha “Takedown” Tate (9-2-0)



Super Flyweights (116-125 pounds):

1. Tara LaRosa (18-2-0)
2. Carina “Beauty But The Beast” Damm (15-3-0)
3. Zoila “The Warrior Princess” Frausto (7-1-0)
4. Rosi “The Surgeon” Sexton (10-2-0)
5. Aisling “Ais The Bash” Daly (9-0-0)
6. Rin Nakai (6-0-0)
7. “Slick” Sally Krumdiack (8-3-0)
8. Lena “Hunter” Ovchynnikova (6-0-0)
9. Cat “Alpha” Albert (4-0-0)
10. Jeri “Fists of Fury” Sitzes (3-1-0)



Flyweights (106-115 pounds):

1. Megumi “Mega Megu” Fujii (20-0-0)
2. Mei “V Hajime” Yamaguchi (6-2-0)
3. Yuka “Vale Tudo Queen” Tsuji (22-2-0)
4. Lisa Ward (13-5-0)
5. Jessica Pene (7-0-0)
6. Kyoko Takabayashi (11-4-0)
7. Jessica “Jag” Aguilar (8-3-0)
8. Angela Magana (9-4-0)
9. Saori “Shooting Star” Ishioka (9-4-0)
10. Lynn “Lights Out” Alvarez (5-1-0)



Rankings current as of July 1, 2010.