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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:12 pm | |
| WW
1)GSP 2)Fitch 3)Shields 4)Koscheck 5)Diaz 6)conditt 7)Kampmann 8)Daley 9)Penn 10)Askren
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:23 pm | |
| LW
1)Edgar 2)Gil 3)Penn 4)Gray 5)Aoki 6)Eddie 7)Flo 8)Thomson 9)Kawajiri 10)Sotiropoulos | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:42 pm | |
| FW
1)Aldo 2)Marlon 3)Bibiano 4)MTB 5)Warren 6)Omigawa 7)Hioki 8)Grispi 9)Gamburyan 10)Nunes | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:14 pm | |
| BW
1)Faber 2)Cruz 3)Benavidez 4)Bowles 5)Jorgenson 6)Torres 7)Ueda 8)Makovsky 9)Pickett 10)D Johnson. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:12 pm | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:44 pm | |
| HW 1.Cain 2.JDS 3.Fedor 4.Werdum 5.Brock 6.Carwin 7.Overeem 8.Big Foot 9.Mir 10.Nelson
LHW 1.Shogun 2.Rashad 3.Rampage 4.Machida 5.Jones 6.Bader 7.King Mo 8.Calvalcante 9.Mousasi 10.Randy Coture
MW 1.Spider 2.Okami 3.Chael Sonnen 4.Belfort 5.Nate 6.Maia 7.Hendo 8.Leben 9.Bisping 10.Wandy
WW 1.GSP 2.Fitch 3.Kos 4.Shields 5.Nick Diaz 6.Thiago Alves 7.Condit 8.BJ Penn 9.Kampmann 10.Diego Sanchez
LW 1.Frankie Edgar 2.Gray Maynard 3.BJ PENN 4.Gilbert Melendez 5.Kenny Florian 6.George Sotiropoulis 7.Eddie Alvarez 8.Aoki 9.Dunham 10.Sherk
FW 1.Aldo 2.Omigawa 3.Manny Gamburyan 4.MTB 5.Bibiano Fernandes 6.Marlon Sandro 7.Josh Grisipi 8.Joe Warren 9.Mark Hominick 10.Hioki
BW 1.Cruz 2.Bowles 3.Benavidez 4.Faber 5.Jorgensen 6.Torres 7.Mizugaki 8.Yahya 9.Fabiano 10.Page
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:52 pm | |
| HW
1. Cain Velasquez 2. Fabricio Werdum 3. Fedor Emelianenko 4. Brock Lesnar 5. Junior dos Santos 6. Shane Carwin 7. Alistair Overeem 8. Frank Mir 9. Antonio Silva 10. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
LHW
1. Mauricio Rua 2. Rashad Evans 3. Quinton Jackson 4. Lyoto Machida 5. Ryan Bader 6. Jon Jones 7. Rafael Cavalcante 8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 9. Muhammad Lawal 10. Rich Franklin
MW
1. Anderson Silva 2. Chael Sonnen 3. Yushin Okami 4. Vitor Belfort 5. Nate Marquardt 6. Ronaldo Souza 7. Demian Maia 8. Michael Bisping 9. Jorge Santiago 10. Hector Lombard
WW
1. Georges St. Pierre 2. Jon Fitch 3. Josh Koscheck 4. Jake Shields 5. BJ Penn 6. Nick Diaz 7. Thiago Alves 8. Carlos Condit 9. Paul Daley 10. Diego Sanchez
LW
1. Frankie Edgar 2. Gilbert Melendez 3. Gray Maynard 4. Eddie Alvarez 5. Shinya Aoki 6. Kenny Florian 7. Sean Sherk 8. George Sotiropolous 9. Josh Thomson 10. Ben Henderson
FW
1. Jose Aldo 2. Marlon Sandro 3. Manny Gamburyan 4. Bibiano Fernandes 5. Mike Thomas Brown 6. Michihiro Omigawa 7. Hatsu Hioki 8. Joe Warren (he's defeated better fighters than Grispi) 9. Josh Grispi 10. Diego Nunes
BW
1. Dominick Cruz 2. Joseph Benavidez 3. Brian Bowles 4. Miguel Torres 5. Scott Jorgenson 6. Urijah Faber 7. Matsakatsu Ueda 8. Rani Yahya 9. Takeya Mizugaki 10. Waggney Fabiano
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:08 pm | |
| In a fight he lost anyway. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:13 pm | |
| kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:15 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.
LMAO | |
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| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:21 pm | |
| Total scores for the Heavyweights.
Heavyweight-
01. Cain Velasquez- 139 02. Fedor Emelianenko- 113 03. Fabricio Werdum- 110 04. Junior dos Santos- 101 05. Brock Lesnar- 76 06. Shane Carwin- 75 07. Allistar Overeem- 64 08. Frank Mir- 31 09. Antonio Silva- 28 10. Roy Nelson- 16
Josh Barnett- 9, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira- 7, Brendan Shaub- 1 |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:56 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:02 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Those rankings are fair.
I agree. |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:03 pm | |
| I did them already Freak just haven't been able to post yet bc of some work shit | |
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| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:10 pm | |
| Total scores for the Light Heavyweights.
Light Heavyweight-
01. Mauricio Rua- 140 02. Rashad Evans- 123 03. Quinton Jackson- 107 04. Lyoto Machida- 104 05. Jon Jones- 74 06. Ryan Bader- 63 07. Rafael Cavalcante- 52 08. Mo Lawal- 31 09. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira- 24 09. Forrest Griffin- 24
Gegard Mousasi- 15, Rich Franklin- 12, Randy Couture- 1 |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:11 pm | |
| Cool, I thought I'd help you out. I'll just wait for you to post them instead. |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:50 pm | |
| No prob. Thanks for the help, just didn't want you to have to do them when I've got them sitting here. Just finishing typing out something for school and I'll finish them off | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:07 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.
Now i'm interested, whats the problem? | |
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| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:34 am | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- Wolfgangsta wrote:
- kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.
Now i'm interested, whats the problem? I think it's the fact that you have Faber and Grispi so low. |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:42 am | |
| Alright kings I'll explain. Our perception of the new divisions is very different.
1. Dominick Cruz < No issue 2. Joseph Benavidez < No issue 3. Brian Bowles < so much activity in the division around him, and he quit on his stool while I have another guy who deserves this spot who fought through the same thing. I moved him down a few spots, but not a major problem. 4. Miguel Torres < too high. Faber should clearly be ranked ahead considering JoeJitsu ran through him, their recent wins and losses, and their overall games and careers. Everything is in Faber's advantage. 5. Scott Jorgenson < I got him higher cause he is the number one contender but this aint that big of a deal. 6. Urijah Faber < way too low. His resume speaks for itself. He should have been in this weight class all along. 7. Matsakatsu Ueda < Maybe you do a better job watching everyone I should than I do, but have you even seen him fight, and who is he fighting anyway? I guess I am falling into a Zuffa trap here. I didn't rank him but I kind of have an *besides his name as the obligatory Japanese guy. I just don't follow Shooto enough to really judge how those guys rack up against WEC fighters, but I really think the talent disparity is growing in favor of the WEC. 8. Rani Yahya < lost two in a row in a super active division and has moved up to FW and has a FW bout scheduled. Shouldn't be ranked. 9. Takeya Mizugaki < don't mind him being ranked though he wasn't on my rankings. 10. Waggney Fabiano < shouldn't be ranked in the top ten after his last loss. BJJ blackbelt who is too easy to sub, and he is slow and not athletic or explosive as younger guys. Needs to move back up FW. Wrong weight class for him. Wrong side of 34 and his chances for serious improvement are small. He also gets a boring fighter penalty.
Eddie Wineland is not on the list and that is a crime. I kicked out Fabiano and Mizugaki from my rankings with their last losses, but kept Damacio Page, added Demetrious Johnson for his last two wins with one being over Page, though I can see where that could be seen as premature. Mizugaki and Banuelos were kind of a toss up for me but Banuelos is coming off a win and his only loss in his last five fights is Jorgensen so I made a decision.
1. Dominick Cruz 2. Urijah Faber 3. Scott Jorgensen 4. Joseph Benavidez 5. Brian Bowles 6. Eddie Wineland 7. Miguel Torres 8. Demetrious Johnson 9. Damacio Page 10. Antonio Banuelos
Those are my rankings, yours are retarded and because we disagree, I'm deleting mine and am gonna ask ninja to delete my account because of it too unless I can ignore you. I also just got off the phone with your boss and I got you fired. You wanted my attention, you got it faggot.
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:57 am | |
| Heavyweight 1. Cain Velasquez 2. Fedor Emelianenko 3. Fabricio Werdum 4. Junior dos Santos 5. Brock Lesnar 6. Shane Carwin 7. Allistar Overeem 8. Frank Mir 9. Antonio Silva 10. Roy Nelson
Honorable Mention: Josh Barnett, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Brendan Shaub
Light Heavyweight 1. Mauricio Rua 2. Rashad Evans 3. Quinton Jackson 4. Lyoto Machida 5. Jon Jones 6. Ryan Bader 7. Rafael Cavalcante 8. Mo Lawal 9. Forrest Griffin 10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Honorable Mention: Gegard Mousasi, Rich Franklin, Randy Couture
Middleweight 1. Anderson Silva 2. Yushin Okami 3. Chael Sonnen 4. Vitor Belfort 5. Nate Marquardt 6. Ronaldo 'Jacare' Souza 7. Demian Maia 8. Jorge Santiago 9. Dan Henderson 10. Michael Bisping
Honorable Mention: Wanderlei Silva, Hector Lombard, Jason 'Mayhem' Miller, Chris Leben, Cung Le, Tim Kennedy, Alan Belcher, Mark Munoz
Welterweight 1. Georges St. Pierre 2. Jon Fitch 3. Josh Koscheck 4. Jake Shields 5. Nick Diaz 6. BJ Penn 7. Thiago Alves 8. Carlos Condit 9. Martin Kampmann 10. Paul Daley
Honorable Mention: Matt Hughes, Ben Askren, Diego Sanchez, Dan Hardy, Jonny Hendricks, Chris Lytle
Lightweight 1. Frankie Edgar 2. Gray Maynard 3. Gilbert Melendez 4. Eddie Alvarez 5. Shinya Aoki 6. Kenny Florian 7. George Sotiropoulos 8. Sean Sherk 9. Evan Dunham 10. Ben Henderson
Honorable Mention: Takanori Gomi, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Josh Thomson, Jim Miller
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:04 am | |
| Some surprises there for sure. Can't believe Lombard is off while Santiago is on, just in terms of the profiles of the two. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:13 am | |
| I forgot all about fuckin Wineland. lol. I did the same thing last time or the time before with Jon Jones but i changed it on time. I would have had Wineland about 7-8 with his recent run. Honest mistake.
As for Faber. I would have ranked him higher but the fact he had never fought 135 and i just stuck him where i had Mizugaki all this time. I don't disagree with that. Maybe i should have ranked him top 5, but i kind of gave Torres the senority card within the division and maybe Jorgenson because he's been on a nice streak and he's about to fight for the belt.
I think Urijah would beat the shit out of all of them.
I'll admit Bantamweight is my weakest division and it's always the last division i rank and i've been kind of half watching the last few WEC cards outside of the main event. Sometimes certain guys slip my mind, so the last 4 slots are kind of a crap shoot with me.
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:49 am | |
| FW division, i'm confident with it outside of maybe some shuffeling with some names in the top 6. all the right guys are there though. A little rushed on #10.
As for Grispi, Freak. All the guys i listed infront of him have better wins. Joe Warren has fought and defeated better competition than Josh Grispi. Now, Warren has question marks and it's not an easy call on that one in particular but i simply like Kid, Soto, Friere, Bebee(his first fight) and Karen more than LC Davis and Hominick.
You can make an arguement with Warren and Grispi with me and i'll say it comes down to opinion. I'd take those guys that Warren beat, and Warren himself over LC Davis and Mark Hominick with the exception of Karen and Beebe
Even if i put Grispi ahead of Warren, there is just no way i put him highter than that. There is no way i put him ahead of any of the others, even Hioki. All those guys have been fighting and beating better competiton than Grispi for a long time excpet Sandro who was can crushing for a long time before SRC who i might of hot shot on a who would beat who basis, but i think Kanehara is a better win than Davis. I mainly ranked Sandro high because i think he wrecks people right now but i just don't want to rank Grispi high just because Zuffa FW division has been noticeably getting weak while most of the fighters people want to see Aldo fight are in other division or outside of Zuffa, after the destruction of Faber and MTB. You can lobby with me to move Sandro a bit lower within the top 5 because i might of given Bibiano, Manny, Omigawa, and MTB a raw deal, i'm open to that like i'm open to moving Faber in the top 2 and obviously putting Wineland in my rankings which was a mistake...Grispi's fine where he's at in my FW rankings
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:07 am | |
| Where are the FW and BW divisions? |
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