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WW

1)GSP
2)Fitch
3)Shields
4)Koscheck
5)Diaz
6)conditt
7)Kampmann
8)Daley
9)Penn
10)Askren


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LW

1)Edgar
2)Gil
3)Penn
4)Gray
5)Aoki
6)Eddie
7)Flo
8)Thomson
9)Kawajiri
10)Sotiropoulos
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FW

1)Aldo
2)Marlon
3)Bibiano
4)MTB
5)Warren
6)Omigawa
7)Hioki
8)Grispi
9)Gamburyan
10)Nunes
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BW

1)Faber
2)Cruz
3)Benavidez
4)Bowles
5)Jorgenson
6)Torres
7)Ueda
8)Makovsky
9)Pickett
10)D Johnson.
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I'll do these today
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HW
1.Cain
2.JDS
3.Fedor
4.Werdum
5.Brock
6.Carwin
7.Overeem
8.Big Foot
9.Mir
10.Nelson

LHW
1.Shogun
2.Rashad
3.Rampage
4.Machida
5.Jones
6.Bader
7.King Mo
8.Calvalcante
9.Mousasi
10.Randy Coture

MW
1.Spider
2.Okami
3.Chael Sonnen
4.Belfort
5.Nate
6.Maia
7.Hendo
8.Leben
9.Bisping
10.Wandy

WW
1.GSP
2.Fitch
3.Kos
4.Shields
5.Nick Diaz
6.Thiago Alves
7.Condit
8.BJ Penn
9.Kampmann
10.Diego Sanchez

LW
1.Frankie Edgar
2.Gray Maynard
3.BJ PENN
4.Gilbert Melendez
5.Kenny Florian
6.George Sotiropoulis
7.Eddie Alvarez
8.Aoki
9.Dunham
10.Sherk

FW
1.Aldo
2.Omigawa
3.Manny Gamburyan
4.MTB
5.Bibiano Fernandes
6.Marlon Sandro
7.Josh Grisipi
8.Joe Warren
9.Mark Hominick
10.Hioki

BW
1.Cruz
2.Bowles
3.Benavidez
4.Faber
5.Jorgensen
6.Torres
7.Mizugaki
8.Yahya
9.Fabiano
10.Page

Better late then never I guess!
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HW

1. Cain Velasquez
2. Fabricio Werdum
3. Fedor Emelianenko
4. Brock Lesnar
5. Junior dos Santos
6. Shane Carwin
7. Alistair Overeem
8. Frank Mir
9. Antonio Silva
10. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

LHW

1. Mauricio Rua
2. Rashad Evans
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Ryan Bader
6. Jon Jones
7. Rafael Cavalcante
8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
9. Muhammad Lawal
10. Rich Franklin

MW

1. Anderson Silva
2. Chael Sonnen
3. Yushin Okami
4. Vitor Belfort
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Ronaldo Souza
7. Demian Maia
8. Michael Bisping
9. Jorge Santiago
10. Hector Lombard

WW

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Jake Shields
5. BJ Penn
6. Nick Diaz
7. Thiago Alves
8. Carlos Condit
9. Paul Daley
10. Diego Sanchez

LW

1. Frankie Edgar
2. Gilbert Melendez
3. Gray Maynard
4. Eddie Alvarez
5. Shinya Aoki
6. Kenny Florian
7. Sean Sherk
8. George Sotiropolous
9. Josh Thomson
10. Ben Henderson

FW

1. Jose Aldo
2. Marlon Sandro
3. Manny Gamburyan
4. Bibiano Fernandes
5. Mike Thomas Brown
6. Michihiro Omigawa
7. Hatsu Hioki
8. Joe Warren (he's defeated better fighters than Grispi)
9. Josh Grispi
10. Diego Nunes

BW

1. Dominick Cruz
2. Joseph Benavidez
3. Brian Bowles
4. Miguel Torres
5. Scott Jorgenson
6. Urijah Faber
7. Matsakatsu Ueda
8. Rani Yahya
9. Takeya Mizugaki
10. Waggney Fabiano
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 29 EmptyWed Dec 01, 2010 9:08 pm

In a fight he lost anyway.
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kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.
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kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.

LMAO
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Total scores for the Heavyweights.

Heavyweight-

01. Cain Velasquez- 139
02. Fedor Emelianenko- 113
03. Fabricio Werdum- 110
04. Junior dos Santos- 101
05. Brock Lesnar- 76
06. Shane Carwin- 75
07. Allistar Overeem- 64
08. Frank Mir- 31
09. Antonio Silva- 28
10. Roy Nelson- 16

Josh Barnett- 9, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira- 7, Brendan Shaub- 1
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Those rankings are fair.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Those rankings are fair.

I agree.
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I did them already Freak just haven't been able to post yet bc of some work shit
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Total scores for the Light Heavyweights.

Light Heavyweight-

01. Mauricio Rua- 140
02. Rashad Evans- 123
03. Quinton Jackson- 107
04. Lyoto Machida- 104
05. Jon Jones- 74
06. Ryan Bader- 63
07. Rafael Cavalcante- 52
08. Mo Lawal- 31
09. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira- 24
09. Forrest Griffin- 24

Gegard Mousasi- 15, Rich Franklin- 12, Randy Couture- 1
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Cool, I thought I'd help you out. I'll just wait for you to post them instead.
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No prob. Thanks for the help, just didn't want you to have to do them when I've got them sitting here. Just finishing typing out something for school and I'll finish them off
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.

Now i'm interested, whats the problem?
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
kings if you didn't have hulkamania rockin there I would take those WEC weight class rankings to task big time. Yikes.

Now i'm interested, whats the problem?

I think it's the fact that you have Faber and Grispi so low.
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Alright kings I'll explain. Our perception of the new divisions is very different.


1. Dominick Cruz < No issue
2. Joseph Benavidez < No issue
3. Brian Bowles < so much activity in the division around him, and he quit on his stool while I have another guy who deserves this spot who fought through the same thing. I moved him down a few spots, but not a major problem.
4. Miguel Torres < too high. Faber should clearly be ranked ahead considering JoeJitsu ran through him, their recent wins and losses, and their overall games and careers. Everything is in Faber's advantage.
5. Scott Jorgenson < I got him higher cause he is the number one contender but this aint that big of a deal.
6. Urijah Faber < way too low. His resume speaks for itself. He should have been in this weight class all along.
7. Matsakatsu Ueda < Maybe you do a better job watching everyone I should than I do, but have you even seen him fight, and who is he fighting anyway? I guess I am falling into a Zuffa trap here. I didn't rank him but I kind of have an *besides his name as the obligatory Japanese guy. I just don't follow Shooto enough to really judge how those guys rack up against WEC fighters, but I really think the talent disparity is growing in favor of the WEC.
8. Rani Yahya < lost two in a row in a super active division and has moved up to FW and has a FW bout scheduled. Shouldn't be ranked.
9. Takeya Mizugaki < don't mind him being ranked though he wasn't on my rankings.
10. Waggney Fabiano < shouldn't be ranked in the top ten after his last loss. BJJ blackbelt who is too easy to sub, and he is slow and not athletic or explosive as younger guys. Needs to move back up FW. Wrong weight class for him. Wrong side of 34 and his chances for serious improvement are small. He also gets a boring fighter penalty.

Eddie Wineland is not on the list and that is a crime. I kicked out Fabiano and Mizugaki from my rankings with their last losses, but kept Damacio Page, added Demetrious Johnson for his last two wins with one being over Page, though I can see where that could be seen as premature. Mizugaki and Banuelos were kind of a toss up for me but Banuelos is coming off a win and his only loss in his last five fights is Jorgensen so I made a decision.

1. Dominick Cruz
2. Urijah Faber
3. Scott Jorgensen
4. Joseph Benavidez
5. Brian Bowles
6. Eddie Wineland
7. Miguel Torres
8. Demetrious Johnson
9. Damacio Page
10. Antonio Banuelos

Those are my rankings, yours are retarded and because we disagree, I'm deleting mine and am gonna ask ninja to delete my account because of it too unless I can ignore you. I also just got off the phone with your boss and I got you fired. You wanted my attention, you got it faggot.
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Heavyweight
1. Cain Velasquez
2. Fedor Emelianenko
3. Fabricio Werdum
4. Junior dos Santos
5. Brock Lesnar
6. Shane Carwin
7. Allistar Overeem
8. Frank Mir
9. Antonio Silva
10. Roy Nelson

Honorable Mention: Josh Barnett, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Brendan Shaub


Light Heavyweight
1. Mauricio Rua
2. Rashad Evans
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Jon Jones
6. Ryan Bader
7. Rafael Cavalcante
8. Mo Lawal
9. Forrest Griffin
10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira

Honorable Mention: Gegard Mousasi, Rich Franklin, Randy Couture


Middleweight
1. Anderson Silva
2. Yushin Okami
3. Chael Sonnen
4. Vitor Belfort
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Ronaldo 'Jacare' Souza
7. Demian Maia
8. Jorge Santiago
9. Dan Henderson
10. Michael Bisping

Honorable Mention: Wanderlei Silva, Hector Lombard, Jason 'Mayhem' Miller, Chris Leben, Cung Le, Tim Kennedy, Alan Belcher, Mark Munoz


Welterweight
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Jake Shields
5. Nick Diaz
6. BJ Penn
7. Thiago Alves
8. Carlos Condit
9. Martin Kampmann
10. Paul Daley

Honorable Mention: Matt Hughes, Ben Askren, Diego Sanchez, Dan Hardy, Jonny Hendricks, Chris Lytle


Lightweight
1. Frankie Edgar
2. Gray Maynard
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Eddie Alvarez
5. Shinya Aoki
6. Kenny Florian
7. George Sotiropoulos
8. Sean Sherk
9. Evan Dunham
10. Ben Henderson

Honorable Mention: Takanori Gomi, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Josh Thomson, Jim Miller


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Some surprises there for sure. Can't believe Lombard is off while Santiago is on, just in terms of the profiles of the two.
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I forgot all about fuckin Wineland. lol. I did the same thing last time or the time before with Jon Jones but i changed it on time. I would have had Wineland about 7-8 with his recent run. Honest mistake.

As for Faber. I would have ranked him higher but the fact he had never fought 135 and i just stuck him where i had Mizugaki all this time. I don't disagree with that. Maybe i should have ranked him top 5, but i kind of gave Torres the senority card within the division and maybe Jorgenson because he's been on a nice streak and he's about to fight for the belt.

I think Urijah would beat the shit out of all of them.

I'll admit Bantamweight is my weakest division and it's always the last division i rank and i've been kind of half watching the last few WEC cards outside of the main event. Sometimes certain guys slip my mind, so the last 4 slots are kind of a crap shoot with me.



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FW division, i'm confident with it outside of maybe some shuffeling with some names in the top 6. all the right guys are there though. A little rushed on #10.

As for Grispi, Freak. All the guys i listed infront of him have better wins. Joe Warren has fought and defeated better competition than Josh Grispi. Now, Warren has question marks and it's not an easy call on that one in particular but i simply like Kid, Soto, Friere, Bebee(his first fight) and Karen more than LC Davis and Hominick.

You can make an arguement with Warren and Grispi with me and i'll say it comes down to opinion. I'd take those guys that Warren beat, and Warren himself over LC Davis and Mark Hominick with the exception of Karen and Beebe

Even if i put Grispi ahead of Warren, there is just no way i put him highter than that. There is no way i put him ahead of any of the others, even Hioki. All those guys have been fighting and beating better competiton than Grispi for a long time excpet Sandro who was can crushing for a long time before SRC who i might of hot shot on a who would beat who basis, but i think Kanehara is a better win than Davis. I mainly ranked Sandro high because i think he wrecks people right now but i just don't want to rank Grispi high just because Zuffa FW division has been noticeably getting weak while most of the fighters people want to see Aldo fight are in other division or outside of Zuffa, after the destruction of Faber and MTB. You can lobby with me to move Sandro a bit lower within the top 5 because i might of given Bibiano, Manny, Omigawa, and MTB a raw deal, i'm open to that like i'm open to moving Faber in the top 2 and obviously putting Wineland in my rankings which was a mistake...Grispi's fine where he's at in my FW rankings

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Where are the FW and BW divisions?
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