Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:29 pm
bobbitt15 wrote:
Ronda has been training with Gracie, rolling with Eddie Bravo working on some rubber guard stuff as well. And she still has her regular camp
Aw shit he's going to fail her drug test.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:57 am
Tate comes from possibly the best American BJJ gym ever when you look at the number of BJJ black belts and ethnic Brazilians that Faber, Mendez, Tate and Joejist have defeated or choked to death. It is insane. This bitch is not gonna be subbin no Miesha Tate. Tate beat Rumina who had 14 of 17 wins by submission. She was called by many the best submission girl in the game. Certainly at this weight class. She had never been sub'd before. That is CLASSIC Alpha Male monster-jitsu. The fight before that, she beat the other girl with a legit claim to best sub's in the weight class, Fight Girl Monster. 13 subs.
I know Ronda has sub'd a bunch of scrubs with no significant sub experience besides Gomez who has still never fought anyone who could fight herself, so she has compiled a few meaningless subs of her own. I know she totally talked her way into a title shot, but the idea shes gonna take Tate down and rip her arm off is ridiculous. Wagnney Fabiano could probably sub four club fighters in under a minute too. Doesn't mean he's taking down Joe Jits the same way.
Ronda is gonna be real, but not yet. She loses via choke. Another high level black belt claimed by Alpha Male.
Her armbars are good obviously to instantly grab them even on bums, but Tate rolls with MMA's elite at sub defense and execution. Ronda counting amateur has like 6, 7 wins total and two of them were BS stoppages in fights her opponent never tapped in also.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:59 am
I like Ronda well enough, but yall can have her. Miesha I am with ya girl.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:42 am
meisha's got a nice body
too bad Ronda is gonna mangle it
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:51 am
Wolfgangsta wrote:
I like Ronda well enough, but yall can have her. Miesha I am with ya girl.
Yo Noob, Meisha has said numberous times that isn't her. She said if you want to see her ass, check out the numberous photo shoots she actually did. Fucking newb.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:03 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Tate comes from possibly the best American BJJ gym ever when you look at the number of BJJ black belts and ethnic Brazilians that Faber, Mendez, Tate and Joejist have defeated or choked to death. It is insane. This bitch is not gonna be subbin no Miesha Tate. Tate beat Rumina who had 14 of 17 wins by submission. She was called by many the best submission girl in the game. Certainly at this weight class. She had never been sub'd before. That is CLASSIC Alpha Male monster-jitsu. The fight before that, she beat the other girl with a legit claim to best sub's in the weight class, Fight Girl Monster. 13 subs.
I know Ronda has sub'd a bunch of scrubs with no significant sub experience besides Gomez who has still never fought anyone who could fight herself, so she has compiled a few meaningless subs of her own. I know she totally talked her way into a title shot, but the idea shes gonna take Tate down and rip her arm off is ridiculous. Wagnney Fabiano could probably sub four club fighters in under a minute too. Doesn't mean he's taking down Joe Jits the same way.
Ronda is gonna be real, but not yet. She loses via choke. Another high level black belt claimed by Alpha Male.
Her armbars are good obviously to instantly grab them even on bums, but Tate rolls with MMA's elite at sub defense and execution. Ronda counting amateur has like 6, 7 wins total and two of them were BS stoppages in fights her opponent never tapped in also.
I don't think we can go cross gender for comparisons here. Faber, Joe, Mendes, etc are elite athletes that wrestled at a high level. Miesha is a good grappler for women's MMA who wrestled in high school going up against the only chick from America to medal in Judo at the Olympics. Its just two different caliber athletes as it will be almost every time Ronda steps into the cage. Rousey by sub. Sorry Miesha
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Women's wrestling is a far less quality sport overall than womens judo. Worldwide participation in womens judo has to be at least ten times what it is in womens wrestling worldwide. Comparing Tate to guys who have made entire careers off of being elite level athletes in the sport isn't a very good comparison at all. You can't teach someone to have athleticism.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:19 pm
Well Miesha did wrestle on the boys team in High School. But I have no idea how successful she was at that lol
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:24 pm
It'd be interesting to learn that to be honest. I'd also like to know the details concerning whether or not she was wrestling boys in her own weight class or a lower one or what.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:27 pm
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It'd be interesting to learn that to be honest. I'd also like to know the details concerning whether or not she was wrestling boys in her own weight class or a lower one or what.
I don't think there is anyway she could wrestle at a smaller weight class. If you don't make weight, you don't make weight. We had a couple girls attempt to wrestle when I was in school. They didn't last but 1 of them had about 3 matches. Had to weigh in just like everyone else.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:33 pm
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:33 pm
I meant was she fighting someone who weighed less than she did in order to make things fair. On average a man of equal size to a woman is still going to be stronger by far because of muscle structure and testosterone which promotes muscle mass in certain areas that estrogen does not.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:37 pm
Ludo wrote:
I meant was she fighting someone who weighed less than she did in order to make things fair. On average a man of equal size to a woman is still going to be stronger by far because of muscle structure and testosterone which promotes muscle mass in certain areas that estrogen does not.
What I'm saying is it doesn't work that way. Male or Female you have to compete at your weight class. They don't get any special handicap. Even though the weight is carried differently, a 120lb girl is still wrestling a 120lb boy. No special rules.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:13 pm
Totally off topic but it's what I wish for this fight.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:19 pm
I'm hoping one of them is sleeping in the cage when he ref steps in. Either by KO or choke out. If I want to watch a lesbian experience on my TV/PC I know where to find it, involving more attractive women.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:34 pm
OU wrote:
Ludo wrote:
I meant was she fighting someone who weighed less than she did in order to make things fair. On average a man of equal size to a woman is still going to be stronger by far because of muscle structure and testosterone which promotes muscle mass in certain areas that estrogen does not.
What I'm saying is it doesn't work that way. Male or Female you have to compete at your weight class. They don't get any special handicap. Even though the weight is carried differently, a 120lb girl is still wrestling a 120lb boy. No special rules.
Damn. Thats rough. I'd be very surprised if she had any real success then, even at that time. I'm not sure she'd do any good right now against the average highschool wrestler who weighs as much as she does in a wrestling match.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:46 pm
Ludo wrote:
OU wrote:
Ludo wrote:
I meant was she fighting someone who weighed less than she did in order to make things fair. On average a man of equal size to a woman is still going to be stronger by far because of muscle structure and testosterone which promotes muscle mass in certain areas that estrogen does not.
What I'm saying is it doesn't work that way. Male or Female you have to compete at your weight class. They don't get any special handicap. Even though the weight is carried differently, a 120lb girl is still wrestling a 120lb boy. No special rules.
Damn. Thats rough. I'd be very surprised if she had any real success then, even at that time. I'm not sure she'd do any good right now against the average highschool wrestler who weighs as much as she does in a wrestling match.
Yeah well they don't handicap in any way. I have seen guys wrestle with a missing or deformed arm or leg. They also carry weight differently. When you are missing a leg the rest of your body will be far more jacked then your opponent weighing the same weight. I have seen blind wrestlers, but they do have a special rule there. You must always be in contact with your opponent. Or atleast that is how it was where I was.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:59 pm
We can compare the fact she did sub a submission expert with an arm triangle. She fights like her boiz in her camp. Ronda has fought zero fighters. Nobody who is ANYBODY. And now she is fighting one of the best. Soon maybe, but not yet. Hype train.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:03 pm
Thats not her ass? Oh well, never seen that pic before. shes talked to me more than you on twitter. Go masturbate to her like I am. At the same time. we can come together. its not that gay
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:04 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
We can compare the fact she did sub a submission expert with an arm triangle. She fights like her boiz in her camp. Ronda has fought zero fighters. Nobody who is ANYBODY. And now she is fighting one of the best. Soon maybe, but not yet. Hype train.
I agree with the hype being carried away. But bringing up the fact that Ronda is a different level athlete then most WMMA fighters is a valid point.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:05 pm
Wolfgangsta wrote:
Thats not her ass? Oh well, never seen that pic before. shes talked to me more than you on twitter. Go masturbate to her like I am. At the same time. we can come together. its not that gay
Ask her about it on twitter, she will get offended and tell you her nice ass is much nicer and she is in better shape. She will tell you to find the legit pictures that are out there of her ass. If you follow her on twitter you should know this. She has gone over this a few times. Noob.
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Subject: Re: Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey at Strikeforce: Columbus March 3rd Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:16 pm
It's true Ronda hasn't fought anyone in WMMA yet, but on the flipside WMMA has never seen anyone of her calliber yet either.
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