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imo either one can end the fight in seconds based on their size n power. This isnt frankie n gray wer gray can make edgar look like a noob and make him do backflips why grabbin on to the cage to prevent a takedown. In the end just like the lesnar(as long as he is willing to fight unlike last friday) vs reem, either can land a solid shot to put the other one down based on size and power. Jds is good, reem has been put to sleep, not tko'd but sleep multiple times . For that both will eat a few but reem will eventually go down as he has been multiple times.
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http://mmajunkie.com/news/26805/ufc-targeting-summer-for-junior-dos-santos-vs-alistair-overeem-title-fight.mma
The UFC's first heavyweight title fight of 2012 is likely to take place mid-year.


While on Tuesday's debut episode of "UFC Today" on FUEL TV, UFC
president Dana White said he's tentatively scheduling a bout between
heavyweight champion Junior Dos Santos (14-1 MMA, 8-0 UFC) and recent
UFC 141 winner Alistair Overeem (36-11 MMA, 1-0 UFC) for the summer.

However, no specific date has been determined.

"Hopefully this summer," White said when asked about the heavyweight tilt. "This summer is probably when it's going to go down.
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Guess its time to officially mark the calendar as the Summer of Reem then
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Guess its time to officially mark the calendar as the Summer of Reem then
Why? What he is he going to do this summer besides take a nap inside the cage?
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What do these HW titles all have in common: Strikeforce, Dream, K-1, and UFC? They belong to the Reem
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What do these HW titles all have in common: Strikeforce, Dream, K-1, and UFC? They belong to the Reem
I think you mistyped, you must have been thinking of some other title at the end instead of UFC? Not sure which one though. But he never has and never will have the UFC title. This is the JDS era, get use to it.
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HW MMA is impervious to eras. Uberknee
What about the Fedor era? That seemed to go on for a little while...but now the UFC has it's very own HW era. I know one thing, JDS will beat Reem. IF he faces Mir, I know he will win that too. We already saw what he can do to Carwin and Cain...so, JDS era is here to stay.
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Anyone who stands with Reem has a chance to get put out especially with how much better his clinch game will be than JDS

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Anyone who stands with Reem has a chance to get put out especially with how much better his clinch game will be than JDS

Reem has the more dynamic striking, JDS is faster, hits harder and is more effective. He has the better chin, I'm going to just assume better cardio and more heart. Just like how Cerrone had more diverse striking then Diaz but Diaz proved to be the better striker. JDS will prove he is the HW standup king. I'm going all out here and declaring a straight ass whoopin. I'll eat my crow if I'm wrong, but I'm not.
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Jds will crush him with boxing.
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Jds will crush him with boxing.
This guy knows what he is talking about. Looks like we are riding the same train again. You fools better hop on now.
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Jds will crush him with boxing.
This guy knows what he is talking about. Looks like we are riding the same train again. You fools better hop on now.
dude, i expect JDS to beat Overeem... i just don't see him being as overrated as you do.
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Overeem winning would be sick though.
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Overeem winning would be sick though.
So I'm taking this as a WANT Reem to win, THINK(knows) JDS will win?
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Overeem winning would be sick though.
So I'm taking this as a WANT Reem to win, THINK(knows) JDS will win?
i wouldnt care who won cuz im a fan of both but i agree overeem winning would be awesome
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And its not like overeem has no chance her with size and his clinch game. But if you look at his stance, speed and defense, he is a sitting duck. Overeem needs to throw kicks and take him down.
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And its not like overeem has no chance her with size and his clinch game. But if you look at his stance, speed and defense, he is a sitting duck. Overeem needs to throw kicks and take him down.
i think kicks will be used for sure, and im sure he'll take him down as well.
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Can he keep Jds down though when no wrestlers have?
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Can he keep Jds down though when no wrestlers have?
no clue, i think JDS ground game is still a big unknown. im sure he has some serious skills but we've never seen him down there to know
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I don't mind watching Reem fight. Of course he has the roids things working against him, but I guess until he is busted I can't pile on too hard. But I don't think I could ever be a "fan" of the guy. But I don't have much love for most of the HWs, so I won't root against him in most fights.
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Can he keep Jds down though when no wrestlers have?
I don't think that will be in Reem's gameplan. I think he will come in with the mindset that he has the advantage on the feet and he can win the fight there. It's not until someone wakes him up and picks him up off the floor that he realizes he was wrong.
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Reem's size and strength(and knees) in the clinch is his best shot imo.

Though JDS had little trouble with Carwin, another powerful guy with a good clinch game.

But otherwise I like Jr's ability to stick and move with space.
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