Even when the UFC "fails" it succeeds

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/23/1097480/400000-buys-and-a-nearly-two

This article is about how 104 isn't much of a draw and yet the UFC still makes $$$ and builds up their fighters. This is why the UFC being strong is a good thing IMO. We get at least a card a month, a few card every so often, and 90% of the best fighters in the world actually fighting unlike Overeem, Barnett, Alvarez, Fihlo, etc. Once MMA continues to grow I could definitely see the UFC going out an buying Dream, SF, WVR, and whoever else is out there.

Actually, if MMA continues to grow, UFC would not be able to buy out Dream, Strikeforce, etc...The day MMA truly grows is the day people stop equating it with a brand name and it becomes about the fighters. That's the future of MMA. It will be just like boxing with multiple orgs that nobody really even know or cares about the names of, it's about who's good and who's not. Also, like it or not because of the whole M-1 thing...co-promotion is the future of the sport.

UFC will never have all the fighters they need to be the only thing that matters in MMA. There is a whole wide world out there and a bunch of promoters looking to get in the game. It shows that even after Pride folded, there was still another place coming up getting peoples attention and signing top fighters. It's really out of the UFC's control, it just depends on who's promoting and who's not.

See I don't want that. I don't understand why anyone would want MMA to tun into boxing. People have been wanting Pac vs PFB for years and haven't had it because of these promotors. If it is all under one roof then it'll happen. The UFC needs to turn into the NFL, NBA, and MLB of their sport. No football or basketball fan has ever bitched about not being able to see a Brady-Peyton or LeBron-Kobe match up.

Farmer1906 wrote:

See I don't want that. I don't understand why anyone would want MMA to tun into boxing. People have been wanting Pac vs PFB for years and haven't had it because of these promotors. If it is all under one roof then it'll happen. The UFC needs to turn into the NFL, NBA, and MLB of their sport. No football or basketball fan has ever bitched about not being able to see a Brady-Peyton or LeBron-Kobe match up.

I never said i wanted that, i'm just saying thats what is going to happen. UFC will never have Kobe plus LeBron, and even if they did have both, they would not have Duncan plus Garnett, or Pual plus Williams, or Brady-Peyton.

Combat sports are different with managments, teams, numerous promotions....MMA is easily going to never be a one org sport. American pro sports like NFL, MLB, and NBA are nothing like combat sports. Who's paying the fighters in the UFC? The Fertitas. Who's paying the players in these leagues? each team has a billionaire paying the salaries and running the organizations and they are all different organizations united into one league. It's all one big fucking co-promotion governed by the ASSOCIATION. they have unions who make sure the players are happy. UFC is single organization that keeps their door closed to everyone...see where i'm getting at here? They can never be the one and only entity in MMA and it's extemely unrealistic to think they ever will. There is about 30 UFC's making the NBA happen, one company will never make something like that happen in boxing, or MMA with just the Fertitas. UFC may be the Yankees of the MMA world, but they still don't have nearly all the best guys they need in Yankees Stadium untill they open up to playing other teams, if you catch my drift. They need alliances with other billionaies and promoters and that is just not combat sports. Also, keep in mind that these leagues have ties to the NCAA, every state in the country, and even other countries. UFC can only go so many places on the east coast and they are not going to open all those doors by themselves, espcially since certain politicians HATE the guys who run UFC.

Also, look at it this way. UFC is pretty much the only brand preventing all the great fights from happening. Everybody else appears to be working together to put on the best fights possible outside the UFC while UFC only wants to protect their brand name. So, the best fights will open up when everybody is open to co-promotion, or else there will always be the Fedor floating around or Aoki on the outside. Not saying UFC is wrong for wanting to make money for only them but their business model is more that of WWE, not like the NFL, NBA and MLB. They may always have the best draws, but for true MMA fans like us, they won't always have the best fights possible.

If every top fighter and even lower fighters can be involved with UFC, i would be fine with it. It's just not a reality and co-promotion is more likely to become a reality in the future. Especially with how this country is becoming more "anti-monopoly" by the day.

Farmer1906 wrote:

See I don't want that. I don't understand why anyone would want MMA to tun into boxing. People have been wanting Pac vs PFB for years and haven't had it because of these promotors. If it is all under one roof then it'll happen. The UFC needs to turn into the NFL, NBA, and MLB of their sport. No football or basketball fan has ever bitched about not being able to see a Brady-Peyton or LeBron-Kobe match up.

The current MMA format hinders matchups more then the boxing format. And it's actually the UFC's reluctance to cross promote that has been the maor problem. Pac Man PBF has only been talked about for a year or so, and will prob happen if Pac wins vs Cotto(which I don't think happens. Meanwhile Fedor Randy never happened. Fedor Brock is at least a year away and that may never happen, wandy chuck happened way too late, Aoki Penn, etc. etc.

UFC has been great for the sport, but certain of their practices are frustrating. and as long as they alienate fighters or merely cut unproductive ones, there will always be competeting orgs.

Farmer1906 wrote:

See I don't want that. I don't understand why anyone would want MMA to tun into boxing. People have been wanting Pac vs PFB for years and haven't had it because of these promotors. If it is all under one roof then it'll happen. The UFC needs to turn into the NFL, NBA, and MLB of their sport. No football or basketball fan has ever bitched about not being able to see a Brady-Peyton or LeBron-Kobe match up.

That's never going to happen.It's literally impossible.Fight sports are so much different than team sports.The best thing that can happen is for mma to get so huge that many promoters succeed and they co-promote with each other.If strikeforce or dream can get anywhere the UFC's level I think that would be great.