Dana says they are looking to bring Gil over "Now"

freakzilla wrote:

Fitch beat Penn. Fitch deserves the shot first.

Yeah well if Fitch didn't get hurt then BJ would've had to fight him again. But Fitch did get hurt losing him his spot in line so BJ vs Condit was for a title shot. What's wrong with that?

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

U have the fate of SF resting on the shoulders of a girl who hasn't fought in 2 years?

& it's been 3 years since she won a fight.

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

U have the fate of SF resting on the shoulders of a girl who hasn't fought in 2 years?

Eh just ignore Team Dana. They absolutely refuse to admit that Dana gutting SF is anything other then "business as usual" and for reasons unknown actually think Dana gives 2 shits about keeping SF around at this point.

OU wrote:

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

U have the fate of SF resting on the shoulders of a girl who hasn't fought in 2 years?

Eh just ignore Team Dana. They absolutely refuse to admit that Dana gutting SF is anything other then "business as usual" and for reasons unknown actually think Dana gives 2 shits about keeping SF around at this point.

Despite him actually saying he has never wanted any part of SF?

I know, mind blowing.

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

Correct. Regardless of the future of SF, these guys were coming to the UFC anyway. The way it should be

I think you are crazy if you don't see any direct correlation between the UFC sucking the talent out of SF and their desire to keep the SF brand alive. So they are going to beat SF to an inch of it's life only to have it on life support as a feeder league? So after they are done raping SF of it's talents they are going to then go back and put some effort into keeping SF around?

They are gang banging SF until it is some used up whore that they throw to the side of the road and let someone else clean up shit they leave behind.

I don't care at all if SF is kept around. But it was certainly known when they bought it that the biggest draws and best fighters were coming to the UFC which explains my excitement for it

bobbitt15 wrote:

I don't care at all if SF is kept around. But it was certainly known when they bought it that the biggest draws and best fighters were coming to the UFC which explains my excitement for it

You have been very consistent with that and if I remember correctly you didn't go as far as others who refused to acknowledge any sort of negative drawbacks to the buyout.

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

I don't care at all if SF is kept around. But it was certainly known when they bought it that the biggest draws and best fighters were coming to the UFC which explains my excitement for it

You have been very consistent with that and if I remember correctly you didn't go as far as others who refused to acknowledge any sort of negative drawbacks to the buyout.

I hope you aren't thinking I am in that group of "others" that you're talking about. I could care less if SF is around but at the same time I did say Zuffa should keep it around as a feeder league to build up talent and womens MMA. At the end of the day we all want to see the best fight eachother so...

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

I don't care at all if SF is kept around. But it was certainly known when they bought it that the biggest draws and best fighters were coming to the UFC which explains my excitement for it

You have been very consistent with that and if I remember correctly you didn't go as far as others who refused to acknowledge any sort of negative drawbacks to the buyout.

I hope you aren't thinking I am in that group of "others" that you're talking about. I could care less if SF is around but at the same time I did say Zuffa should keep it around as a feeder league to build up talent and womens MMA. At the end of the day we all want to see the best fight eachother so...

I'm not talking about people who really didn't give a shit about the future of SF. Just those who thought it was all peaches and cream and literally 100% positive for everyone involved. That insane optimism in the buyout.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/25545/ufc-prez-on-strikeforce-champ-melendez-if-i-have-to-yank-him-over-here-ill-do-it.mma
HOUSTON – There have been strong indications that Gilbert Melendez's run
in Strikeforce is over and that his UFC run is just beginning.

Following Saturday's UFC on Versus 6 event, UFC president Dana White
said he wanted the lightweight champ in the UFC "ASAP," which prompted
speculation that Melendez's headliner with Jorge Masvidal at a December
Strikeforce event had been dissolved pending his imminent departure for
the octagon.

Masvidal and his representatives say the bout – which is set for Dec. 17
at Valley View Casino Center in San Diego – is still a go, and while
White said today that he isn't sure when Melendez will make the jump.

It could happen at any time, he said.

"I've got to run my business, so if I have to yank him over here, I'll do it," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) following a press conference for UFC 136, which takes place Saturday at Houston's Toyota Center.

Of course, UFC 136's headliner – a highly anticipated rematch between
lightweight champ Frankie Edgar and challenger Gray Maynard – is set to
clear the way for the next lightweight contender, and Melendez is on a
long list of possibilities, according to White.

UFC parent company Zuffa LLC in March purchased Strikeforce. Since then,
two Strikeforce champions have made their way to the octagon:
welterweight champion Nick Diaz, who is scheduled to meet B.J. Penn at
UFC 127, and heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who meets ex-champ
Brock Lesnar at UFC 141.

Melendez, meanwhile, often has spoken about his desire to fight in the
UFC, and in kind, White has expressed his interest in welcoming the
champ to the industry-leading promotion.

"Gilbert's one of the top guys in the world, no doubt about it," White said in April prior to UFC 129. "I love that kid."

"I'm excited for the day when we can make these fights happen."

It appears that day is drawing closer with every passing month.
Strikeforce broadcast partner Showtime's deadline to continue with a
five-year broadcast deal inked in February 2009 is "now," according to
White, and the future of the promotion likely rests on that decision.

White said UFC executive and co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta met with Showtime
executives on Tuesday but said he didn't know how the meeting went and
declined to discuss it further.

"I'm not involved with that thing," White said. "I have a conference
call with Lorenzo right after this press conference, so I'll know then."

Because of that uncertainty, White is hesitant to lay out a roadmap for Melendez's apparently inevitable transition to the UFC.

"If we bring Gilbert over, Gilbert could get a title shot once this
thing's put to rest," he said. "Makes sense. And it's all timing. We
have to see what happens. After this fight, hopefully these guys don't
get hurt. You just never know. There's so many factors.

"If that's the case, then a guy like Gilbert comes over here, and we give him a tune-up fight, which probably isn't a bad idea.

"The thing is, even (with) a guy like Gilbert coming over, you guys have
seen it for 10 years. I don't care how dominant or how great a guy is,
the first time they fight in the UFC, man, it's crazy. It's happened to
everybody: Jake Shields, Carlos Condit when he first came over here, and
the list goes on and on of great fighters who've dominated in other
places (and) they get a little knock-kneed when they fight in the UFC
for the first time."

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

U have the fate of SF resting on the shoulders of a girl who hasn't fought in 2 years?

& it's been 3 years since she won a fight.

LOL over your head as usual.

The point is that non obvious fighters being moved over would be a true signal of SF's demise, especially someone like Gina when the UFC has no womens divisions.... Everyone with a brain knew guys like Reem, Hendo, Gil ______ insert big name were getting moved over to the UFC eventually, so those guys coming over still doesn't say that the UFC has zero intentions of keeping SF as a feeder.

OU wrote:

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

U have the fate of SF resting on the shoulders of a girl who hasn't fought in 2 years?

Eh just ignore Team Dana. They absolutely refuse to admit that Dana gutting SF is anything other then "business as usual" and for reasons unknown actually think Dana gives 2 shits about keeping SF around at this point.

It's dumb to say people are "Team Dana" simply because they kind of understand that if SF is to be kept it will be as a feeder and nothing more. There was really never going to be a point in keeping the top level talent over in SF, especially after signing a deal with Fox. I mean you'd keep top level guys in SF if you owned both Orgs? Because I have a hard time believing you would. And look at how many prospect level fighters Zuffa has signed to SF since the buyout or extended womens contracts or new womens contracts. Truthfully no one still has a clue whats going on in the keeping SF situation.

So really everyone is still just specualting either way on if it will be kept or not, but if you want reasons SF wouldn't be kept or signals for it, don't look at the best fighters getting moved over, look at the money being made or lack there of at SF events. Bad draws, gates and earnings is probably the most telling signal.

http://mmaweekly.com/showtime-either-wants-to-be-in-business-with-us-or-they-dont-dana-white-video

Got a laugh out of this. Thought Dana alluding to SF being 33 mill in debt was interesting, and his thoughts on some Orgs TV deals which some have championed in the past.

LA wrote:

OU wrote:

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

This has nothing to do with if SF is sticking. All the other champs are taken already so this would be expected.

OU wrote:

LOL still holding out hope? That's so cute.

To Wolf's point moving over SF Champions or top level fighters was really never going to be an indication of SF's impending demise, because if they were going to keep SF they weren't going to keep the top level talent there anyways. No point in stashing UFC caliber fighters in another lower level Org you own......In the end SF may not be kept, but moving Nick, Reem, Gil, Hendo over to the UFC isn't a huge signal for that. If Gina signed a UFC contract though...

U have the fate of SF resting on the shoulders of a girl who hasn't fought in 2 years?

Eh just ignore Team Dana. They absolutely refuse to admit that Dana gutting SF is anything other then "business as usual" and for reasons unknown actually think Dana gives 2 shits about keeping SF around at this point.

It's dumb to say people are "Team Dana" simply because they kind of understand that if SF is to be kept it will be as a feeder and nothing more. There was really never going to be a point in keeping the top level talent over in SF, especially after signing a deal with Fox. I mean you'd keep top level guys in SF if you owned both Orgs? Because I have a hard time believing you would. And look at how many prospect level fighters Zuffa has signed to SF since the buyout or extended womens contracts or new womens contracts. Truthfully no one still has a clue whats going on in the keeping SF situation.

So really everyone is still just specualting either way on if it will be kept or not, but if you want reasons SF wouldn't be kept or signals for it, don't look at the best fighters getting moved over, look at the money being made or lack there of at SF events. Bad draws, gates and earnings is probably the most telling signal.

Yeah whatever man, sounds more like denial to me. The signs are clearly pointing to SF not being around much longer. Everyone sees it, it's OK at this point to acknowledge it. If you guys really think that raping SF of it's talent is no indication whatsoever on the future of SF, you aren't paying attention. You seriously think they are going to put the time, money and effort into SF after they pick it clean? You are either way too far on the Team Dana side or you are in serious denial.