Best Japanese fighter ever?

boomer sooner wrote:

The more I think about this question, the best fighter to come out of Japan is Okami. Saku had the most legendary career, but he is far from being the best fighter. Okami got my vote.

Far from being the best? I think that is downplaying his skill.

True, I take that back, but I still stand by Okami being a better fighter. If the two in their primes fought, then I take Okami all the way.

boomer sooner wrote:

True, I take that back, but I still stand by Okami being a better fighter. If the two in their primes fought, then I take Okami all the way.

Yeah but at this point Saku has the better career.

OU wrote:

boomer sooner wrote:

True, I take that back, but I still stand by Okami being a better fighter. If the two in their primes fought, then I take Okami all the way.

Yeah but at this point Saku has the better career.

No doubt about it. He was Pride's star and they wanted him fighting everyone relevant, whether at his weight or not. It's kind of apples and oranges when comparing careers. Pride's format was totally different from the UFC's. Okami would never be allowed to fight Brock Lesnar, Jon Jones and Shogun, but Saku in his time could fight those equivalents in Crocop, Wanderlei, little Nog, Rampage, Randleman, Arona etc.

boomer sooner wrote:

True, I take that back, but I still stand by Okami being a better fighter. If the two in their primes fought, then I take Okami all the way.

Not me bro. But hey I respect you opinion.

Man we take shit too seriously sometimes


"Okami is a pretty good fighter, not really the best opponent for Anderson, but we needed a guy who know? He's a little boring, decision type fighter, don't think he can beat Anderson, but he'll be game. He's one of the better fighters to come from Japan, probably not the best, in the top 10 though for sure. Watch the fight if you like a wrestler trying to hold down a fighter whose better then him, up to you."

Or


"I'm gonna hype this fucking fight!"

Seriously though

Sakurabu

And then it's not crazy to think Okami could be second best, if I were looking at it from a who can these guys hang with type to way, I'd put Okami 2nd, but Gomi, Aoki, Funaki good call are all right there.

LA wrote:

Man we take shit too seriously sometimes


"Okami is a pretty good fighter, not really the best opponent for Anderson, but we needed a guy who know? He's a little boring, decision type fighter, don't think he can beat Anderson, but he'll be game. He's one of the better fighters to come from Japan, probably not the best, in the top 10 though for sure. Watch the fight if you like a wrestler trying to hold down a fighter whose better then him, up to you."

Or


"I'm gonna hype this fucking fight!"

It was a solid topic for conversation. Hate if you want. But Dana lying his ass off just to promote a fight is old and we can hate if we want to. Just because it is "smart business" doesn't mean it isn't also gayness.

OU wrote:

It was a solid topic for conversation. Hate if you want. But Dana lying his ass off just to promote a fight is old and we can hate if we want to. Just because it is "smart business" doesn't mean it isn't also gayness.

Preach it lol

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

Man we take shit too seriously sometimes


"Okami is a pretty good fighter, not really the best opponent for Anderson, but we needed a guy who know? He's a little boring, decision type fighter, don't think he can beat Anderson, but he'll be game. He's one of the better fighters to come from Japan, probably not the best, in the top 10 though for sure. Watch the fight if you like a wrestler trying to hold down a fighter whose better then him, up to you."

Or


"I'm gonna hype this fucking fight!"

It was a solid topic for conversation. Hate if you want. But Dana lying his ass off just to promote a fight is old and we can hate if we want to. Just because it is "smart business" doesn't mean it isn't also gayness.

This is a message board after all.

Totally overblown, relax guys relax

And Okami would probably beat Saku being real about it.

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

LA wrote:

Totally overblown, relax guys relax

And Okami would probably beat Saku being real about it.

just about any1 will beat Saku nowadays lol

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

Being sick of it by now is a simple concept to grasp.

killerofchicken wrote:

LA wrote:

Totally overblown, relax guys relax

And Okami would probably beat Saku being real about it.

just about any1 will beat Saku nowadays lol

Did you use your brain before posting that? What did you seriously think I meant now? Or the obvious Okami vs Prime Saku...

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

Being sick of it by now is a simple concept to grasp.

So is understanding that these promos aren't meant for people like you. Expansion my friend

LA wrote:

Totally overblown, relax guys relax

And Okami would probably beat Saku being real about it.

Well then you can have the debate, are we talking who has done the most as of today? or who was the most skilled fighter at their peak?

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

Why is mocking dudes like Saku and Aoki necessary for hyping this fight?

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

Some just don't get it I guess, Okami doesn't sell himself, someone has to, they'll spin some shit nicely on Fox I bet, which they should.

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

Totally overblown, relax guys relax

And Okami would probably beat Saku being real about it.

Well then you can have the debate, are we talking who has done the most as of today? or who was the most skilled fighter at their peak?

It's the context which some take it in though, annoying. Oh no Dana said what???

bobbitt15 wrote:

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

Being sick of it by now is a simple concept to grasp.

So is understanding that these promos aren't meant for people like you. Expansion my friend

Still doesn't make it any less nauseating to hear Dana say whatever sounds good at the moment.

captain organic wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hating someone for knowing how to run a business and expecting them to not hype fights to get people interested is a pretty strange thought

Why is mocking dudes like Saku and Aoki necessary for hyping this fight?

So Okami is a sell himself type fighter?

He said Saku and Aoki suck dick? Or simply Okami in his opinion is the best fighter from Japan?

LA wrote:

OU wrote:

LA wrote:

Totally overblown, relax guys relax

And Okami would probably beat Saku being real about it.

Well then you can have the debate, are we talking who has done the most as of today? or who was the most skilled fighter at their peak?

It's the context which some take it in though, annoying. Oh no Dana said what???

Interesting, I find whatever BS Dana decided to spew that day to be annoying. I also don't have a problem expressing that.

Okami is still really lacking a big time marquee win.

Saku had multiple big time wins.

Okami isn't even in the discussion at this point. Let him beat Spider, and then the discussion can begin.

I don't think it's out of the question for us as mma fans to want Dana to not shit on a great legend of our sport by claiming he only faught cans while trying to "hype ppvs". You can apply that to Saku or Fedor.