Oh, Jesus: Overeem v Zuffa starting already

LA wrote:

Cormier will be a more then game opponent for Foot as well, I got that as 50/50 at the moment.

even though i dont think much of overeem or bigfoot i see cormier as a perfect fill in. should be a great match regardless who he faces.

Agreed. Undersized and inexperienced, but don't be shocked when Cormier makes this a very competitive fight. He definitely has a chance to win the fight, but agree that its more or less a 50/50 toss up. If Cormier is smart, he will take as little damage as possible by sticking to Bigfoot like glue.

jimbojones1950 wrote:

Agreed. Undersized and inexperienced, but don't be shocked when Cormier makes this a very competitive fight. He definitely has a chance to win the fight, but agree that its more or less a 50/50 toss up. If Cormier is smart, he will take as little damage as possible by sticking to Bigfoot like glue.

Yeah I think he matchups up pretty well with everyone left in the tourney. I don't think he would have lasted vs Werdum or Fedor but he might be able to hold these other guys down.

I think Cormier gets beat up by Foot

I'm still interested in the tournament if Strikeforce still is.

Antonio Silva, Josh Barnett, Sergey Kharitonov, and Daniel Cormier is still interesting. All 4 HW are at the top of their game right now and Daniel Cormier is like a wild card who has improved at such a great pace with his kickboxing to compliment his wrestling that he's not a lamb in this tournament. He might prove to be too small in the end but they picked their best alternate. I originally wanted Cormier or del Rosario to be in this tournament instead of Rogers. I felt all GP's need a wild card. Rogers seemed used up already IMO. He's the only guy you knew was not going to go forward and was not even going to come close.

It's a disappointment about Reem..because Antonio Silva was a big fight for him. I think his fight with Antonio Silva was going to tell us what we needed to know about Overeem and that sucks.

1)If u r a SF champ, and want a fight with the UFC champ, merely say the word "boxing".

2)Reem being out is weak sauce of the highest order.

Is the tourney still relevant? Yes. But Reem was by far the biggest star left. And to take him out for non injury at this point, is way lame.

3)Showtime can not be happy about this, and in line with the UFC starting their own channel.

4)I got Foot (who i was also picking to beat reem) beating cormier. Foot just made the goat look way too small for the division. Cormier? he was talking 205 b4 his last fight(vs a 205er), I now consider it a done deal. Although Cormier may come in way overweight here to try to match the size of Silva.

Cormier is a tough guy, and willing to stand, so this could be entertaining, but Im pretty confident in this pick.

Fedor of two years ago would flat out paste Bigfoot. Cormier has a very legit chance. Ricco who talks about 205 all the time fought Foot tooth and nail and arguably won that fight, and Foot was nearly murdered by Mike Kyle.

come on wolf...why you bringing up this meaningless old shit.

You would rather say Fedor is not who he was 2 years ago with absolutley nothing to base that on other than the fact he lost some fight rather than admit Antonio Silva has simply improved by leaps since he fought Ricco Rodriguez a few years ago? Ricco while talks about 205 never moved to 205 and probably never will..and we know Ricco wasnt talking no 205 when he fought Bigfoot, we know Ricco was all HW a few years ago..and Ricco isnt a joke as much as people try to act like he is for no reason shown in his performance. This guy arguably beat Big Nog in PRIDE and has more than a legit resume in all major orgs. A win over Ricco is good and underrated for Silva. Not to mention Bigfoot had never fought anybody at Rodriguez level up to that point, he was a bit green.

So he got rocked by a big puncherand quicker fighter in Mike Kyle..what was even more impressive than Kyle's punch was Antonio Silva not being finished by it and then knocking him out. Cormier has not displayed Mike Kyle power...most HW havent displayed Mike Kyle power...and i don't think Kyle getting in on a slower HW..and knocking them on their ass is anything to be ashamed of.

The three best fighters Bigfoot has faced at Fedor, Arlovski, and Werdum. He beat the piss out of Fedor and Arlovski...and was a mental blunder in round 2 away from taking the first 2 rounds vs. Werdum...and here you are talking about his fight with Ricco Rodriguez and Mike Kyle...two fights he won as well?

I'd give Daniel Cormier a shot, even more than a small chance because he's extremely talented and is legit IMO...not because of old Bigfoot fights..Wolf,if i shit the bed on the Reed Harris thing...you are definetly shitting the bed now.

If your point was Bigfoot is not suddenly unbeatable because of what he did to Fedor..i agree and hes still not my favorite in this tournament. However, if you think bringing up irrelevant old fights like Rodriguez(who's a good fighter) and then acting like recently almost getting decapitated by Mike Kyle yet surviving makes a case for Cormier...you are wrong.

Pretty sure Foot broke his hand in the 1st against Werdum, just mentioning that with^

He is bitching over a fucking toe guys! When I was in Desert hield/Desert Storm, I broke my right hand really bad, right before we invaded Iraq. I still had to drive a stick shift truck through the desert for three days. Reem is a pussy....

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

He is bitching over a fucking toe guys! When I was in Desert hield/Desert Storm, I broke my right hand really bad, right before we invaded Iraq. I still had to drive a stick shift truck through the desert for three days. Reem is a pussy....

LOL yeah those two things are extremely comparable. How about when you use to walk to school in the snow with 2 broken legs while carrying your 4 sisters on your back?

What the fuck ever, I was there and I know what I had to do. But even then, a fucking toe? And it is your small toe? Man the fuck up.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

What the fuck ever, I was there and I know what I had to do. But even then, a fucking toe? And it is your small toe? Man the fuck up.

Reem has more options then just about any MMA fighter in the game. You can't demand he fights on a date he hasn't agreed to, homie don't play that.

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You would rather say Fedor is not who he was 2 years ago with absolutley nothing to base that on other than the fact he lost some fight rather than admit Antonio Silva has simply improved by leaps since he fought Ricco Rodriguez a few years ago?

Woah. Nothing to base it on...I don't even.. Did you watch that fight? Fedor was fighting in slow fucking motion. Significantly slower reflexes and reaction time than the guy who blasted out Sylvia. Also, he fought the worst fight of his career, chasing a KO as opposed to setting it up with a counter. He was trying to out speed Silva. Where in the past he could beat a guy to the punch off the counter, he was slowed and not setting things up right either. His hip explosions of the past were seriously legitimate but he had nothing for Silva. Fedor admittedly was under trained and off his game, in addition to older and slower. Dude wasn't talking retirement for nothing. Antonio Silva would get run hardcore by Prime Fedor.

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/20/2284797/forward-clothing-commercial-features-throaty-russian-voice-skinny

a skinnier Fedor? i hope so

killerofchicken wrote:

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/20/2284797/forward-clothing-commercial-features-throaty-russian-voice-skinny

a skinnier Fedor? i hope so

Just like some of the other recent videos, it's just too tough to tell if there is any real difference. We will know soon enough.

He looked the same to me.

Fedor-Hendo is at 220 so Fedor would be thinner.

freakzilla wrote:

Fedor-Hendo is at 220 so Fedor would be thinner.

No there is no weight limit. Hendo would not allow a catchweight.

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Fedor-Hendo is at 220 so Fedor would be thinner.

No there is no weight limit. Hendo would not allow a catchweight.

Serious? damn, why not?

freakzilla wrote:

OU wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Fedor-Hendo is at 220 so Fedor would be thinner.

No there is no weight limit. Hendo would not allow a catchweight.

Serious? damn, why not?

He has never fought a catchweight fight and never wants to. He said he isn't worried about how big his opponent is.

Hendo coming in at 206 because he doesn't give a fuck son

bobbitt15 wrote:

Hendo coming in at 206 because he doesn't give a fuck son

LOL yeah I remember that quote from him. Hendo is the man.

Zuffa are a bunch of tyrants, their day will come.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/07/20/alistair-overeem-explains-why-he-was-removed-from-strikeforce-gp/

Alistair Overeem's run in the Strikeforce heavyweight grand prix came to a screeching halt on Monday, when he was removed from the tournament due to not agreeing to fight on Sept. 10.

MMA Fighting corresponded with the Strikeforce heavyweight champion via e-mail on Tuesday to find out why he was removed from the tournament and what's next for him.

Ariel Helwani: Are you disappointed that you were taken out of the tournament?
Alistair Overeem: Yes, of course I'm disappointed. Winning the tournament was my number one goal. I understand their position, but they have to understand mine, and I'm disappointed we couldn't work it out.

It has been reported that you have one fight left on your contract, is that true and how are negotiations going for an extension?
I don't like to talk about my contract negotiations, but the rumors about me pulling out of the tournament because of that are false. Everybody is trying to find reasons why I was pulled out of the tournament, but I can tell you this: it's not that difficult. Strikeforce promised me a date in the fall (October/November), I acted on it and chose to go on holiday and start my training in August. Zuffa/Showtime then decided to do it in September and then the ball was in my court, and I had to decline because I know it's too short of time to be prepared 100 percent Instead of postponing the event they decided that the show must go on and use one of the alternates. It's their choice, and I respect that but that don't change the fact that nobody benefits from this situation; the fans, the promotion, the event and myself are the ones that are missing out on a great tournament and a great fight. The only one that benefits out of this whole situation is Daniel Cormier, so I wish him best of luck, and I hope eventually to fight the winner of the tournament for the belt.

Showtime delayed the tournament in April, so why couldn't they delay it this time around?
I don't know but my guess is that when Zuffa took over Strikeforce there were other interests. If you look at the month of October, you can see three UFC shows and two of them are big and have title fights as the main event. That makes you wonder if they want a Grand Prix semi-final in between on Showtime.

Sept. 10 is seven weeks away. Why isn't that enough time for you to prepare for a fight?
At the moment I have started training by myself because most of my team members and trainer are on holiday, so I didn't start my real training camp yet. I have to get sparring partners from other countries and fly them in and arrange accommodations. Everything was according to plan and that was to start my fighting program on August 1. So let's take that date as my starting point, then you have to be in the States a week before the fight. So if you calculate it, then you have just four weeks and that's not enough to have a good and well prepared training for such a big fight.

You've always been known as an active fighter, for example, you competed in a combined 14 MMA and K-1 bouts in 2009-10, however, you've fought just once in 2011. Why have things changed?
There are many explanations: the level of competition and the stakes are different. It's safe to say that all those opponents aren't as good as 'Bigfoot,' the other reason is that K-1 matches are very different to train and you don't need a very long training camp if you compare it to MMA. The most important is that you can fight multiple times if you don't interrupt your training. If the September date was confirmed right after the Werdum fight, it was no problem to get in shape because I would have skipped my holiday and organized the training camp earlier. If you go on a holiday and you stop training and enjoy life by eating things you're normally aren't allowed or going out instead of sleeping then your momentum is gone and you have to start all over again and that cost extra time as well. There is a reason why UFC champions only fight two times a year.

Have you talked to Zuffa since you were removed from the tournament? If so, what's the state of your relationship with them today?
No, I didn't speak to anybody at Zuffa. I only communicate with my management and they talk to them. If you ask me what the state of our relationship is, I think nothing has changed. It would be silly to think that they don't understand my decision.

How badly injured is your toe? When can you resume training?
It's not that bad, otherwise I would have canceled [the Silva fight] because of that injury alone. It's more that my body isn't pain-free, there are minor injuries but they prevent you from training 100 percent. If you have just four-to-six weeks, and you have those minor things, then you are jeopardizing your training. I have started my training recently, and on August 1, I will have a training camp.

When do you think you will fight for Strikeforce again?
I don't know.

Is there a chance that you will fight for someone else before fighting for Strikeforce again?
I hope so. I like to be active, and like I told you, I will be ready according to the first date we agreed with Strikeforce and that is in October.