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Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:12 pm | |
| The new version. New hype trains to jump on. Which fighters do you buy or sell? | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:35 pm | |
| I'll get to this tomorrow or sometime this week | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:37 pm | |
| buying: Gilbert Melendez as an elite LW, possibly the best. Douglas Lima as a future contender in the UFC. Phil Davis as a future UFC Champion. JDS as the man that will beat Cain and become UFC Champion.
selling: Brock or Frank Mir ever being champion again. Not really going out on a limb here. Thiago Alves ever even getting a title shot again. Or even beating a top 5 WW again. Daniel Cormier even if he does beat SDR, I don't expect him to do too much.
that's all that comes to mind for now. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:22 pm | |
| I'll go by division, prob do the rest later
BUY: Pettis/Olivera/Alvarez/Guillard 2.0 - see Pettis and Mel getting title shots by middle/late 2012..who knows when Eddie gets out of Bellator. Olivera has the brash confidence and the all-around game. He'll bounce back from that Miller fight
SELL: Sot/Barboza/Aoki - Think George loses to most when he steps up in comp, love Barboza but last fight showed that CC side where he has difficulty letting shit go when people stay in his face (still think he can be good but his stock went down for me), Aoki loses to people that aren't tailor-made for him (see: Beerbohm, Lyle) when he comes to the states
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| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:27 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- I'll go by division, prob do the rest later
BUY: Pettis/Olivera/Alvarez/Guillard 2.0 - see Pettis and Mel getting title shots by middle/late 2012..who knows when Eddie gets out of Bellator. Olivera has the brash confidence and the all-around game. He'll bounce back from that Miller fight
SELL: Sot/Barboza/Aoki - Think George loses to most when he steps up in comp, love Barboza but last fight showed that CC side where he has difficulty letting shit go when people stay in his face (still think he can be good but his stock went down for me), Aoki loses to people that aren't tailor-made for him (see: Beerbohm, Lyle) when he comes to the states
short version; BUYING guys with athletic talent and SELLING guys without as much natural athleticism. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:43 pm | |
| Partly, although Edson is super athletic. In truth though I've never been high on George and while being a fan of Aoki just think he gets sprawl-brawled by any solid dudes in a cage | |
| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:45 pm | |
| Buy
Eddie Alvarez Gilbert Melendez Jon Jones Overeem
Sell
Melvin Guilliard Hector Lombard Phil Davis Ryan Bader | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:48 pm | |
| Buy-
Gilbert Melendez- Top 3 LW and is improving Mo Lawal- Will improve now that his knee is heeled up and is training at AKA Alistair Overeem- Don't see him losing in the next 18 months Tyson Griffin- Will be a top 3 FW
Sell-
Phil Davis- Will lose 2 fights in the next 18-24 months and will never be UFC champ Eddie Alvarez- Will get ko'd or submitted if he fights Edgar/Maynard/Melendez Roy Nelson- Will never beat a top 5 HW Anthony Pettis- Will eventually be excellent but will lose pretty easily in his title fight
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| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:50 pm | |
| BUY Jon Jones GSP Jose Aldo Frankie Edgar Cain Velasquez Dominick Cruz Nick Diaz Gilbert Melendez Jacare Dan Henderson and Alistair Overeem
SELL Mike Russow Thiago Silva Jamie Varner Nick Thompson Kimbo James Toney Chieck Kongo Tim Sylvia Keith Jardine Gabe Gonzaga Dan Hardy and Ken Shamrock
feeling adventurous you kno
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| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:53 pm | |
| fo real
BUY King Mo, Brendan Schaub, Gegard Mousasi, Phil Davis, Showtime
SELL Melvin Guillard, Brock Lesnar ever being champ again, Cole Konrad, Overeem's chin when tagged by a legit HW puncher | |
| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:55 pm | |
| Oh, forgot to sell Schuab...not impressed. | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm | |
| How about some tougher buys
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| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm | |
| da hell, why?
Fast, athletic, good hand speed, good camp and work ethic. What would impress you in such a division? Who are all the people standing in his way and a title shot? | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm | |
| man MMA has less bona fide prospects now than it did then | |
| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm | |
| - LA wrote:
- How about some tougher buys
Buy Chad Griggs | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:01 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- man MMA has less bona fide prospects now than it did then
Agree | |
| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:10 am | |
| BUY - Ben Askren, King Mo, Phil Davis, Milendez
Sell - Schaub, Pettis, Aaron Simpson, Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Akiyama | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:19 am | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- BUY - Ben Askren, King Mo, Phil Davis, Milendez
Sell - Schaub, Pettis, Aaron Simpson, Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Akiyama No one thinks they will get near the main event anyway. |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Buy - Phil Davis, Tyson Griffin with a comeback at 145, Bones keeping the belt more than 1 defense, Ronaldo Souza being a real title contender even in the UFC, Stun Gun Kim being top 10, King Mo becoming SF champ again.
Sell - Sergei being a darkhorse for the tourney, Fedor @ 205 if it happens, Jim Miller becoming champ, GSP @ 185 for keeps, Sonnen topping his performance vs Silva.
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| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:46 am | |
| I like the Oliveria and Tyson Griffin buys. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:57 am | |
| more sells: King Mo- for now, maybe in another year I will change my mind. Just don't think he is quite as good as most people. Dan Hardy- didn't think he really earned his title shot, don't expect him to be anyting more then a Leben type fighter. Rumble/Aussie George- as ever being legit title contenders.
more buys: Paul Harris- as a legit top MW, better then Maia, I think a fight vs Jacare would be very close. Jacare- I didn't fully buy into him until very recently. I think he is a top level MW. Jose Aldo- as a top p4p fighter for a long time to come.
didn't want to add fighters I'm a fan of but I'm still buying Jones, JDS and the Diaz brothers. | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:28 am | |
| King Mo said his knee bothered him for 4 fights before he got it operated on. He's 100% now and has started training with a good camp so I think he should improve big time. |
| | | Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:33 am | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- Buy
Eddie Alvarez Gilbert Melendez Jon Jones Overeem
Sell
Melvin Guilliard Hector Lombard Phil Davis Ryan Bader I agree with Kingsown! | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:35 am | |
| buy:king mo, mousasi, gil, barboza, jacare
sell: marquart, rumble... i have to think about this | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype? Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:22 am | |
| HW Buy - Matt Mitrione, Daniel Cormier Sell - Pat Berry, Stefan Struve
LHW Buy - Richard 'oh' Hale 'yeah', Marcos Lima Sell - Alexander Gustafsson, Roger Gracie
MW Buy - Hector Lombard, Chris Weidman Sell - Chael Sonnen, Wanderlei Silva
WW Buy - Nick Diaz, Douglas Lima Sell - Amir Sadollah, Mike Pierce
LW Buy - Jorge Masvidal, Melvin Guillard Sell - Frankie Edgar, Mark Bocek
FW Buy - Robert Peralta, Erik Koch Sell - Chad Mendes, Manny Gamburyan
BW Buy - Micheal McDonald, Renan Barao Sell - Scott Jorgensen, Takeya Mizugaki
FLW Buy - Ian McCall, Kiyotaka Shimizu Sell - Ulysses Gomez, Mitsuhisa Sunabe | |
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