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PostSubject: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 10:12 pm

The new version. New hype trains to jump on. Which fighters do you buy or sell?
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 10:35 pm

I'll get to this tomorrow or sometime this week
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 10:37 pm

buying:
Gilbert Melendez as an elite LW, possibly the best.
Douglas Lima as a future contender in the UFC.
Phil Davis as a future UFC Champion.
JDS as the man that will beat Cain and become UFC Champion.

selling:
Brock or Frank Mir ever being champion again. Not really going out on a limb here.
Thiago Alves ever even getting a title shot again. Or even beating a top 5 WW again.
Daniel Cormier even if he does beat SDR, I don't expect him to do too much.

that's all that comes to mind for now.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:22 pm

I'll go by division, prob do the rest later

BUY: Pettis/Olivera/Alvarez/Guillard 2.0 - see Pettis and Mel getting title shots by middle/late 2012..who knows when Eddie gets out of Bellator. Olivera has the brash confidence and the all-around game. He'll bounce back from that Miller fight

SELL: Sot/Barboza/Aoki - Think George loses to most when he steps up in comp, love Barboza but last fight showed that CC side where he has difficulty letting shit go when people stay in his face (still think he can be good but his stock went down for me), Aoki loses to people that aren't tailor-made for him (see: Beerbohm, Lyle) when he comes to the states



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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:27 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
I'll go by division, prob do the rest later

BUY: Pettis/Olivera/Alvarez/Guillard 2.0 - see Pettis and Mel getting title shots by middle/late 2012..who knows when Eddie gets out of Bellator. Olivera has the brash confidence and the all-around game. He'll bounce back from that Miller fight

SELL: Sot/Barboza/Aoki - Think George loses to most when he steps up in comp, love Barboza but last fight showed that CC side where he has difficulty letting shit go when people stay in his face (still think he can be good but his stock went down for me), Aoki loses to people that aren't tailor-made for him (see: Beerbohm, Lyle) when he comes to the states




short version; BUYING guys with athletic talent and SELLING guys without as much natural athleticism.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:43 pm

Partly, although Edson is super athletic. In truth though I've never been high on George and while being a fan of Aoki just think he gets sprawl-brawled by any solid dudes in a cage
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:45 pm

Buy

Eddie Alvarez
Gilbert Melendez
Jon Jones
Overeem


Sell

Melvin Guilliard
Hector Lombard
Phil Davis
Ryan Bader
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:48 pm

Buy-

Gilbert Melendez- Top 3 LW and is improving
Mo Lawal- Will improve now that his knee is heeled up and is training at AKA
Alistair Overeem- Don't see him losing in the next 18 months
Tyson Griffin- Will be a top 3 FW

Sell-

Phil Davis- Will lose 2 fights in the next 18-24 months and will never be UFC champ
Eddie Alvarez- Will get ko'd or submitted if he fights Edgar/Maynard/Melendez
Roy Nelson- Will never beat a top 5 HW
Anthony Pettis- Will eventually be excellent but will lose pretty easily in his title fight


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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:50 pm

BUY Jon Jones GSP Jose Aldo Frankie Edgar Cain Velasquez Dominick Cruz Nick Diaz Gilbert Melendez Jacare Dan Henderson and Alistair Overeem

SELL Mike Russow Thiago Silva Jamie Varner Nick Thompson Kimbo James Toney Chieck Kongo Tim Sylvia Keith Jardine Gabe Gonzaga Dan Hardy and Ken Shamrock


feeling adventurous you kno
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:53 pm

fo real

BUY King Mo, Brendan Schaub, Gegard Mousasi, Phil Davis, Showtime

SELL Melvin Guillard, Brock Lesnar ever being champ again, Cole Konrad, Overeem's chin when tagged by a legit HW puncher
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:55 pm

Oh, forgot to sell Schuab...not impressed.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm

How about some tougher buys

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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm

da hell, why?

Fast, athletic, good hand speed, good camp and work ethic. What would impress you in such a division? Who are all the people standing in his way and a title shot?
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm

man MMA has less bona fide prospects now than it did then
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyTue Apr 12, 2011 11:59 pm

LA wrote:
How about some tougher buys


Buy

Chad Griggs

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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 12:01 am

Wolfgangsta wrote:
man MMA has less bona fide prospects now than it did then

Agree
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 12:10 am

BUY - Ben Askren, King Mo, Phil Davis, Milendez

Sell - Schaub, Pettis, Aaron Simpson, Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Akiyama
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 1:19 am

Birdofthad wrote:
BUY - Ben Askren, King Mo, Phil Davis, Milendez

Sell - Schaub, Pettis, Aaron Simpson, Chris Leben, Brian Stann, Akiyama

No one thinks they will get near the main event anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 7:26 am

Buy - Phil Davis, Tyson Griffin with a comeback at 145, Bones keeping the belt more than 1 defense, Ronaldo Souza being a real title contender even in the UFC, Stun Gun Kim being top 10, King Mo becoming SF champ again.

Sell - Sergei being a darkhorse for the tourney, Fedor @ 205 if it happens, Jim Miller becoming champ, GSP @ 185 for keeps, Sonnen topping his performance vs Silva.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 7:46 am

I like the Oliveria and Tyson Griffin buys.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 8:57 am

more sells:
King Mo- for now, maybe in another year I will change my mind. Just don't think he is quite as good as most people.
Dan Hardy- didn't think he really earned his title shot, don't expect him to be anyting more then a Leben type fighter.
Rumble/Aussie George- as ever being legit title contenders.

more buys:
Paul Harris- as a legit top MW, better then Maia, I think a fight vs Jacare would be very close.
Jacare- I didn't fully buy into him until very recently. I think he is a top level MW.
Jose Aldo- as a top p4p fighter for a long time to come.

didn't want to add fighters I'm a fan of but I'm still buying Jones, JDS and the Diaz brothers.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 9:28 am

King Mo said his knee bothered him for 4 fights before he got it operated on. He's 100% now and has started training with a good camp so I think he should improve big time.
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 9:33 am

KingsOwn19 wrote:
Buy

Eddie Alvarez
Gilbert Melendez
Jon Jones
Overeem


Sell

Melvin Guilliard
Hector Lombard
Phil Davis
Ryan Bader

I agree with Kingsown!
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buy:king mo, mousasi, gil, barboza, jacare

sell: marquart, rumble... i have to think about this
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PostSubject: Re: NEW buy or sell the hype?   NEW buy or sell the hype? EmptyWed Apr 13, 2011 11:22 am

HW
Buy - Matt Mitrione, Daniel Cormier
Sell - Pat Berry, Stefan Struve

LHW
Buy - Richard 'oh' Hale 'yeah', Marcos Lima
Sell - Alexander Gustafsson, Roger Gracie

MW
Buy - Hector Lombard, Chris Weidman
Sell - Chael Sonnen, Wanderlei Silva

WW
Buy - Nick Diaz, Douglas Lima
Sell - Amir Sadollah, Mike Pierce

LW
Buy - Jorge Masvidal, Melvin Guillard
Sell - Frankie Edgar, Mark Bocek

FW
Buy - Robert Peralta, Erik Koch
Sell - Chad Mendes, Manny Gamburyan

BW
Buy - Micheal McDonald, Renan Barao
Sell - Scott Jorgensen, Takeya Mizugaki

FLW
Buy - Ian McCall, Kiyotaka Shimizu
Sell - Ulysses Gomez, Mitsuhisa Sunabe
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