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Can Chael still sell PPVs? | He will be a major draw | | 10% | [ 1 ] | He will still be above average | | 40% | [ 4 ] | He will have decent to average draw | | 40% | [ 4 ] | His selling power is gone when not fighting Spider | | 10% | [ 1 ] |
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| Subject: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:50 am | |
| Interesting question that popped up. I think his ability to sell PPVs plummets badly when he is not fighting Spider. Don't see him selling well as a headliner in a non title fight and not fighting Spider. Your thoughts? | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:52 am | |
| Chael has never headlined a PPV where he wasn't fighting Anderson. Not sure he would sell too well as the headline when he isn't fighting for the title or against Andy. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:52 am | |
| I say above average, considering his ability to talk like a wrassler and the fact that he has a cult following... get a small sample of that on this board! | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:54 am | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- I say above average, considering his ability to talk like a wrassler and the fact that he has a cult following... get a small sample of that on this board!
Yeah he got alot of hype for this specific matchup and the trash talk directed at Anderson. But was there really that much buzz for his other matchups? I know there was sum, but it wasn't anything special IMO. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:55 am | |
| I thought he did well selling the Bisping fight with the short notice. IDK, I guess time will tell | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:05 am | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- I thought he did well selling the Bisping fight with the short notice. IDK, I guess time will tell
I don't think that FOX card did near as well as they were hoping. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:17 am | |
| Maybe if he fought Vitor or Rashad. |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:22 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Maybe if he fought Vitor or Rashad.
How well would you expect those to do? As the headline of a PPV. It could be decent, but IMO neither one would be anything special when it come to PPV buys. IMO in those fights Chael wouldn't be the main draw. I think both Vitor and Rashad would be the ones selling the PPVs more then Chael. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:18 pm | |
| What do you fuckers think? | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:27 pm | |
| If this doesn't reach 5 votes in the next 2 hours, I'll delete 5 members and 2 sections. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:34 pm | |
| I say above if he talks trash. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:41 pm | |
| Freak posted in here but didn't vote, so he will be the first to be deleted. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:46 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:52 pm | |
| I think Bisping vs Sonnen rematch could sell decent on PPV as a headliner. They would both talk the talk, then you have the 1st fight being very close. I guess maybe if he fought a Brazilian like Vitor or even Wand it could sell since it could be like a carryover beef from the hype leading up to the Spider fight. But those are the only situations I could see where it could do above average buys. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:24 pm | |
| Jew has alot to say pre-fight, so he will be the 2nd one to go. Time is ticking. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:25 pm | |
| What if Chael is now toned down thanks to Renzo Gracie? Will people still buy his PPVs without his gimmick? | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:10 pm | |
| You people picking above average are wrong. This guy will sell as a headliner for a PPV in a non title fight? | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:21 pm | |
| He is probably at or around a top ten draw still realistically.
He's gotten a lot of casual exposure so that counts for something. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:23 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- He is probably at or around a top ten draw still realistically.
He's gotten a lot of casual exposure so that counts for something. Casuals love the guy, its crazy how much of a following he's picked up with his mouth | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:25 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- He is probably at or around a top ten draw still realistically.
He's gotten a lot of casual exposure so that counts for something. Casuals love the guy, its crazy how much of a following he's picked up with his mouth I know casuals that were interested in him for this specific matchup. But I honestly beleive they will be fair weather followers and will mostly disappear. That's the feeling I get. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:32 pm | |
| Losing again definitely takes a hit, but some will still have the benign interest to possibly check him out over someone better like Aldo who they are not aware of. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:35 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Losing again definitely takes a hit, but some will still have the benign interest to possibly check him out over someone better like Aldo who they are not aware of.
What a sad truth. If people were only educated just a little bit they would never, ever watch a Sonnen fight over an Aldo fight. Sonnen seems to attract fans that are much like him, fake. They won't even remember his name in 6 months. He was that guy that fought Anderson. I think Sonnen fan is also a fan of Brock and Kos. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:42 pm | |
| I think it depends on who he's fighting. If it's someone like Brian Stann don't expect much. He flat out refused to say anything bad about Stann. He's only comfortable playing the heel when it's "America vs..." type fights. If he fights any non american he can talk it up well but when it comes to countrymen he'll keep his mouth shut. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:51 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- Losing again definitely takes a hit, but some will still have the benign interest to possibly check him out over someone better like Aldo who they are not aware of.
What a sad truth. If people were only educated just a little bit they would never, ever watch a Sonnen fight over an Aldo fight. Sonnen seems to attract fans that are much like him, fake. They won't even remember his name in 6 months. He was that guy that fought Anderson. I think Sonnen fan is also a fan of Brock and Kos. I know of three people who are in my MMA circle here who watch fights with me like this. Fell for the Brocktober trick even after the Carwin fight, and totally spell struck by Sonnen by the second Silva fight. One of them is even a hardcore who I told on Saturday and at Cain vs Lesnar that he really should know better. I took all their moneys on those fights. | |
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| Subject: Re: Can Chael sell PPVs not fighting Spider? Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:55 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- Losing again definitely takes a hit, but some will still have the benign interest to possibly check him out over someone better like Aldo who they are not aware of.
What a sad truth. If people were only educated just a little bit they would never, ever watch a Sonnen fight over an Aldo fight. Sonnen seems to attract fans that are much like him, fake. They won't even remember his name in 6 months. He was that guy that fought Anderson. I think Sonnen fan is also a fan of Brock and Kos. I know of three people who are in my MMA circle here who watch fights with me like this. Fell for the Brocktober trick even after the Carwin fight, and totally spell struck by Sonnen by the second Silva fight. One of them is even a hardcore who I told on Saturday and at Cain vs Lesnar that he really should know better. I took all their moneys on those fights. I guarantee there is a major overlap. Farmer here is a prime example. Same goes for Jewzilla. | |
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