5 Round Main/Co Main Events Need To Happen NOW

captain organic wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Forrest v Rich
-Shields v Kampmann
-Okami v Munoz
-Hamill v Jardine
-Rampage v Evans
-Nate v Okami
-Rampage v Machida
This is just looking in the last year.


Actually...most of those fights sucked in the first place.

what? u weren't dieing to see rnd 4 of Shields vs Kampmann?

If it went to a 4th round and possibly a 5th, Kampmann would have won. It would have changed the WW division. While you may not have enjoyed that fight. I did and think its important to get a true winner, not give a win to a guy who did no damage and just barely won on positioning.

So three round fights don't have true winners anymore? The answer to shitty fights isn't making them longer. Anyway, everyone wanted to see Jake Shields vs GSP. Kampmann winning there when overall we all know he is an inferior fighter on most nights would have been debilitating for the division. I am actually less sold on this idea than I was when the thread started.

Jamal wrote:

I'll have to disagree. They are called championship rounds for a reason. Only title fights should be 5 rounds.

I agree with this totally. Plus there are some boring fights that go the distance of three rounds, now I have to see more of that too? No thanks.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

So three round fights don't have true winners anymore? The answer to shitty fights isn't making them longer. Anyway, everyone wanted to see Jake Shields vs GSP. Kampmann winning there when overall we all know he is an inferior fighter on most nights would have been debilitating for the division. I am actually less sold on this idea than I was when the thread started.

Who's to say Shields is the better fighter? I think Kampmann more than held his own vs Shields and would give GSP a better fight. Jake has no hands.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

So three round fights don't have true winners anymore? The answer to shitty fights isn't making them longer. Anyway, everyone wanted to see Jake Shields vs GSP. Kampmann winning there when overall we all know he is an inferior fighter on most nights would have been debilitating for the division. I am actually less sold on this idea than I was when the thread started.

Who's to say Shields is the better fighter? I think Kampmann more than held his own vs Shields and would give GSP a better fight. Jake has no hands.

If we go off their respective records, Shields is the better fighter. If we go off their head to head matchup, Shields is the better fighter.

There was no call for that fight to be a 5 rnd prior to the fight. It was not the main even, Kamp is not a marquee name. But after 3 boring yet close rnds we now wish it was a 5 rnd fight? Nah.

And Kamp would offer nothing to GSP. At least Shields can match GSP's biggest strength. And this fight could offer the possibility of Georgie actually standing and KO'ing an opponent. GSP Kamp will be another typical grinder. I've seen that fight 100 times already.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

So three round fights don't have true winners anymore? The answer to shitty fights isn't making them longer. Anyway, everyone wanted to see Jake Shields vs GSP. Kampmann winning there when overall we all know he is an inferior fighter on most nights would have been debilitating for the division. I am actually less sold on this idea than I was when the thread started.

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t5753-kampmann-wants-hardy

Hilarity.

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Wolfgangsta wrote:

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Yeah I didn't get it. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. You said in that thread that Hardy would smack around Kampmann and now you are calling him inferior to Jake? Seems consistent to me. I have to be missing something.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Paulo Thiago must have been injured or something. Anyway Hardy will smack the piss out of this guy.

It was just how the thread progressed. First Paulo "had to have been injured or something", then it was lay and pray. Even now after holding his own against Jake Shields and taking the fight to him Wolf apparently has a problem on a deeper level with the guy. This is almost lesnar-esque with how much your discrediting the guy.

90% of the universe would agree that on most days Jake Shields is a better fighter than Martin Kampmann. Do we need to post their records? That isn't a controversial statement. Kampmann is better than I thought at one point sure, but to put him on Jake Shields level is absurd. Jake suffered from a nasty weight cut.

Ludo wrote:

It was just how the thread progressed. First Paulo "had to have been injured or something", then it was lay and pray. Even now after holding his own against Jake Shields and taking the fight to him Wolf apparently has a problem on a deeper level with the guy. This is almost lesnar-esque with how much your discrediting the guy.

Ahhh I see. He discredits Kamp but loves him some King Mo. Must be a UFC hater.

And blow me on the Lesnaresque comment. Nothing I said about him turned out to be untrue did it?

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

It was just how the thread progressed. First Paulo "had to have been injured or something", then it was lay and pray. Even now after holding his own against Jake Shields and taking the fight to him Wolf apparently has a problem on a deeper level with the guy. This is almost lesnar-esque with how much your discrediting the guy.

Ahhh I see. He discredits Kamp but loves him some King Mo. Must be a UFC hater.

Gold

Wolfgangsta wrote:

90% of the universe would agree that on most days Jake Shields is a better fighter than Martin Kampmann. Do we need to post their records? That isn't a controversial statement. Kampmann is better than I thought at one point sure, but to put him on Jake Shields level is absurd. Jake suffered from a nasty weight cut.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

And blow me on the Lesnaresque comment. Nothing I said about him turned out to be untrue did it?

Nobody said what you said about Lesnar turned out right or wrong, it's the blind hatred that has become comparable factor here. Going by records and usual performance sure Jake Shields is a better fighter than Martin Kampmann, but come on. Kampmann is the "inferior" fighter on most nights? Perhaps I read it wrong but it seemed like you were making a general statement and not one localized with Jake Shields specifically. If thats the case I am in the wrong.

Are people actually saying that Kampmann is a better fighter than Shields? A drained Shields beat an at his peak Kampmann, he beat Dan Henderson at MW and has 1 of the longest win streaks in MMA. Shields is also top 10 P4P and Kampmann will never even be top 20.

Jamal wrote:

Are people actually saying that Kampmann is a better fighter than Shields? A drained Shields beat an at his peak Kampmann, he beat Dan Henderson at MW and has 1 of the longest win streaks in MMA. Shields is also top 10 P4P and Kampmann will never even be top 20.

His was on the night they fought and should have gotten the decision.

I donno Jamal. I think it mostly has to do with Ludo not understanding that when I am talking about Jake Shields and Kampmann and their fight that I am talking about Jake Shields and Kampmann and their fight. Kampmann isn't in Jake's universe and if they fought again Jake would choke his life from his body. Jake Shields vs GSP is a much more marquee fight for the division than Martin Kampmann and most can agree to that. That is my point. Don't know how that was lost in translation.

How was it blind haterism with Lesnar? I saw what the world did not. You know what, nevermind Ludo. The only blind haterism I have is for yo momma.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I donno Jamal. I think it mostly has to do with Ludo not understanding that when I am talking about Jake Shields and Kampmann and their fight that I am talking about Jake Shields and Kampmann and their fight. Kampmann isn't in Jake's universe and if they fought again Jake would choke his life from his body. Jake Shields vs GSP is a much more marquee fight for the division than Martin Kampmann and most can agree to that. That is my point. Don't know how that was lost in translation.

How was it blind haterism with Lesnar? I saw what the world did not. You know what, nevermind Ludo. The only blind haterism I have is for yo momma.

Truth.