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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:13 pm | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:24 pm | |
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jewzilla Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GOAT: GSP. Favorite retired: Brock, Chuck. Always supporting: Hendo, Chael, Cerrone, Forrest, Faber. Posts : 980 Join date : 2011-02-14 Location : North Texas
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:35 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- What about Strikeforce?
Business as usual, bro, business as usual. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:41 pm | |
| btw this is gay as a motherfucker | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:43 pm | |
| Finally! Great move by the UFC & MMA. | |
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jewzilla Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GOAT: GSP. Favorite retired: Brock, Chuck. Always supporting: Hendo, Chael, Cerrone, Forrest, Faber. Posts : 980 Join date : 2011-02-14 Location : North Texas
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:46 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- Finally! Great move by the UFC & MMA.
It is a great move for any #1 contender fight, or the Diaz brothers vs. a wrestler. Who wants to see Rashad vs. Davis for 25 minutes? Not me. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:47 pm | |
| Yeah I'm going to hate seeing two top ten guys in a division fight for 5 rounds
Not. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:48 pm | |
| What bobbit said.
I bet we see a ton less decisions now.
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jewzilla Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GOAT: GSP. Favorite retired: Brock, Chuck. Always supporting: Hendo, Chael, Cerrone, Forrest, Faber. Posts : 980 Join date : 2011-02-14 Location : North Texas
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:58 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Yeah I'm going to hate seeing two top ten guys in a division fight for 5 rounds
Not. You call what they do fighting? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:59 pm | |
| I call it ultimate fighting | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:00 pm | |
| YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:02 pm | |
| bad fights become longer and less good fights get aired on the main broadcast. Fucking lame. | |
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jewzilla Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GOAT: GSP. Favorite retired: Brock, Chuck. Always supporting: Hendo, Chael, Cerrone, Forrest, Faber. Posts : 980 Join date : 2011-02-14 Location : North Texas
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:03 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- I call it ultimate fighting
I call ^that the lamest response you could have possibly came up with. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:04 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- bad fights become longer and less good fights get aired on the main broadcast. Fucking lame.
And awesome fights go 2 more rounds and possibly get a more definitive winner. They show everything on Facebook and Youtube now anyway. What's the difference | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:05 pm | |
| - jewzilla wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- I call it ultimate fighting
I call ^that the lamest response you could have possibly came up with. Sorry, I like watching guys that trane really hard at UFC fight for 25 minutes | |
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jewzilla Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GOAT: GSP. Favorite retired: Brock, Chuck. Always supporting: Hendo, Chael, Cerrone, Forrest, Faber. Posts : 980 Join date : 2011-02-14 Location : North Texas
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:13 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- jewzilla wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- I call it ultimate fighting
I call ^that the lamest response you could have possibly came up with. Sorry, I like watching guys that trane really hard at UFC fight for 25 minutes That was an even worse attempt at sarcasm, sir. WEAK. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:28 pm | |
| Someone do the math, how many more finishes in the 4th and 5th round can we expect now? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:30 pm | |
| - Quote :
- More decisive finishes - From my previous post on the topic, I showed that - in a limited sample size - five round title fights are finished 77% of the time as compared to the MMA average of 67% for three round affairs. More fights avoiding the mysterious hands of the judges the better.
Less importance per round - In a three round fight, each round makes up 33% of a judge's score card. A round in a five round bout is only worth 20%. For example, in the Caol Uno/Spencer Fisher fight at UFC 99, if you score the first two rounds (which were very close) to Fisher, Uno has to win a dominant 10-8 third just for a draw. With two additional rounds, Uno would have ample time to make up lost ground (if not finish his opponent). http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/6/9/2216148/dana-white-announces-all-ufc-main-events-will-be-five-rounds | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:34 pm | |
| Im on board with it. i think it really makes main events more interesting. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:37 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
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- More decisive finishes - From my previous post on the topic, I showed that - in a limited sample size - five round title fights are finished 77% of the time as compared to the MMA average of 67% for three round affairs. More fights avoiding the mysterious hands of the judges the better.
Less importance per round - In a three round fight, each round makes up 33% of a judge's score card. A round in a five round bout is only worth 20%. For example, in the Caol Uno/Spencer Fisher fight at UFC 99, if you score the first two rounds (which were very close) to Fisher, Uno has to win a dominant 10-8 third just for a draw. With two additional rounds, Uno would have ample time to make up lost ground (if not finish his opponent). http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/6/9/2216148/dana-white-announces-all-ufc-main-events-will-be-five-rounds But, how many more finishes in the 4th and 5th could realistically be expected? | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:51 pm | |
| How about we just look at the past five years... say UFC 60, end of May 2006.
51 five round title fights 63 three round main events 114 cumulative fights in sample
32 of 51 five round title fights were finished .... 63% 35 of 63 three round main events were finished .... 59% 67 of 114 cumulative fights in sample are finished .... 55%
3 five round fights out of 51 finished in the 4th or 5th rounds .... 6%
6% of the 63 three round main events is 4. In the past five years we could estimate that we missed out on four finishes in fights that were main events that were only 3 rounds long, and we also can estimate we would of gained an extra ten minutes of said fights 24 times in place of other fights on the card that might of been aired. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:09 pm | |
| It's insignificant and skates around the true issue on this subject, strange judging. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:11 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- How about we just look at the past five years... say UFC 60, end of May 2006.
51 five round title fights 63 three round main events 114 cumulative fights in sample
32 of 51 five round title fights were finished .... 63% 35 of 63 three round main events were finished .... 59% 67 of 114 cumulative fights in sample are finished .... 55%
3 five round fights out of 51 finished in the 4th or 5th rounds .... 6%
6% of the 63 three round main events is 4. In the past five years we could estimate that we missed out on four finishes in fights that were main events that were only 3 rounds long, and we also can estimate we would of gained an extra ten minutes of said fights 24 times in place of other fights on the card that might of been aired. Yeah but not all 3 round fights were boring. Who wouldnt have wanted to see Chuck vs Wandy go 5? | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:20 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- How about we just look at the past five years... say UFC 60, end of May 2006.
51 five round title fights 63 three round main events 114 cumulative fights in sample
32 of 51 five round title fights were finished .... 63% 35 of 63 three round main events were finished .... 59% 67 of 114 cumulative fights in sample are finished .... 55%
3 five round fights out of 51 finished in the 4th or 5th rounds .... 6%
6% of the 63 three round main events is 4. In the past five years we could estimate that we missed out on four finishes in fights that were main events that were only 3 rounds long, and we also can estimate we would of gained an extra ten minutes of said fights 24 times in place of other fights on the card that might of been aired. Yeah but not all 3 round fights were boring. Who wouldnt have wanted to see Chuck vs Wandy go 5? About as many people who wouldn't want to see 10 more minutes of Sam Stout vs Spencer Fisher or Jonathan Brookins vs Michael Johnson. But since Chuck vs Wanderlei was not a main event...... | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: All UFC main events to be 5 rounders from now on Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:23 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- How about we just look at the past five years... say UFC 60, end of May 2006.
51 five round title fights 63 three round main events 114 cumulative fights in sample
32 of 51 five round title fights were finished .... 63% 35 of 63 three round main events were finished .... 59% 67 of 114 cumulative fights in sample are finished .... 55%
3 five round fights out of 51 finished in the 4th or 5th rounds .... 6%
6% of the 63 three round main events is 4. In the past five years we could estimate that we missed out on four finishes in fights that were main events that were only 3 rounds long, and we also can estimate we would of gained an extra ten minutes of said fights 24 times in place of other fights on the card that might of been aired. Yeah but not all 3 round fights were boring. Who wouldnt have wanted to see Chuck vs Wandy go 5? About as many people who wouldn't want to see 10 more minutes of Sam Stout vs Spencer Fisher or Jonathan Brookins vs Michael Johnson.
But since Chuck vs Wanderlei was not a main event...... My bad I thought it was. I cant remember shit! | |
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