Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem...

oggy420 wrote:

i don't understand what is so hard to grasp. Nick is the champ. He didn't call out Mayhem, Mayhem called him out. Nick is willing to fight at 178 which means Mayhem could fight at 180. Nick is going up almsot 10 pounds, while Mayhem will not budge at all on the weight.

How in the fuck does that make Nick the scared one? Nick is saying let's do it, i'll move up 10 pounds if you will come down 5. Mayhem is saying no flat out. I think it's pretty clear that the only reason this fight isn't happening is the stubbornness of Mayhem. If he really wanted this fight that bad he would have taken it at 180. Fuck Mayhem.

No he didn't call Mayhem out, he sucker punched him and jumped him with 4 other guys on national television. Nick's camp wants the fight at 178 pounds and Mayhem is not physically capable of dropping to 178 pounds. You do realize that if he walks around at or around 200 pounds to drop to 178 is over ten percent of his total bodyweight? For a person who is in peak physical condition to drop over 10% is incredibly difficult and sometimes a danger to one's health. Thats like saying "Sure, I'll fight you, GSP. But we'll only fight at 160lbs."

Mayhem weighed in at 183 to fight shields. But now dropping 3 extra pounds may put his life in danger. right....

It's 5 extra pounds and yes it could.

excuses are like assholes....

Ludo wrote:

It's 5 extra pounds and yes it could.

put his life in danger???????

cutting too much weight, or trying to do so, can have serious reprecussions on health and performance. Look at James Irvin when he fought Sakara, or Alves when he fought Fitch the second time.

But it could eventually lead to a trt prescription lol. Take the bad and the good.

Ludo wrote:

cutting too much weight, or trying to do so, can have serious reprecussions on health and performance. Look at James Irvin when he fought Sakara, or Alves when he fought Fitch the second time.

yet Alves continues to fight at that weight. Not a great example.

Not sure of the details on Irvin vs Sakara.

oh wait, Alessio? that fight was 20 lb's below his normal fight weight. Mayhem is being asked to come down 7 lbs(for a fight that he is asking for). That is a big difference.

the point wasn't how much weight itself it actually is. It's the condition those guys were in come fight time after cutting obscene amounts of weight and rightfully more than they should have to begin with. Irvin looked so drained people thought he would pass out on the scale, Alves was one pound away from making weight and could not cut that one extra pound. There comes a point where "a couple more" is simply too much.

OU wrote:

So Miller is currently willing to cut zero extra pounds and come in to fight at the exact same weight he came in vs Jake Shields. But Nick Diaz is willing to give 10lbs? LOL BBC you are trippin.

Mayhem weighs 200-205lbs dude. What are you not getting about this? Nick Diaz does not walk around at 170lbs like all of you Diaz fans think. He is at lightest 180lbs and for him to not fight Mayhem 183lbs is rediculous. He attacked Mayhem after the Shields fight, talked shit first on the internet, threw a bottle and challenged Mayhem when Mayhem said he was gonna give him props after the KJ fight, So he can't fight at 183lbs when he walks around somewhere near that weight??? He doesn't hava a legit challenger for the WW title??? DON'T BE SCARED HOMIE!

Follow me Diaz fans so I can get this through your heads!

1 guy weighs over 200lbs.

1 guy wieghs 180lbs.

The 200lbs guy said he would fight at 183lbs. The 180lbs guy wants to fight at 178lbs. He has been told it wasn't for the title also.

NICK IS A BITCH!

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Follow me Diaz fans so I can get this through your heads!

1 guy weighs over 200lbs.

1 guy wieghs 180lbs.

The 200lbs guy said he would fight at 183lbs. The 180lbs guy wants to fight at 178lbs. He has been told it wasn't for the title also.

NICK IS A BITCH!

So a guy who is significantly smaller then another guy is a bitch for not making all the concessions?

captain organic wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Follow me Diaz fans so I can get this through your heads!

1 guy weighs over 200lbs.

1 guy wieghs 180lbs.

The 200lbs guy said he would fight at 183lbs. The 180lbs guy wants to fight at 178lbs. He has been told it wasn't for the title also.

NICK IS A BITCH!

So a guy who is significantly smaller then another guy is a bitch for not making all the concessions?

sigh

NO

He is a bitch for constantly talking shit about how he aint scared of anyone and for starting a fight with Miller and now he is making excuses to get out of fighting him...

He's not making excuses. Mayhem is the one who won't compromise. Miller is all talk.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Follow me Diaz fans so I can get this through your heads!

1 guy weighs over 200lbs.

1 guy wieghs 180lbs.

The 200lbs guy said he would fight at 183lbs. The 180lbs guy wants to fight at 178lbs. He has been told it wasn't for the title also.

NICK IS A BITCH!

LOL logic fail. So you want Nick(according to you) to not only not cut weight, but fight above what his natural weight is. While Mayhem cuts his usual weight and comes in at 195+ lbs for the fight? You want Nick to give up 10+ lbs on fight day? Mayhem refused to compromise a single pound and Nick is the bitch? You are about as far from logic as you could be BBC.

If Diaz says he wants to be a champion in three divisions, he is going about it all wrong.

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Follow me Diaz fans so I can get this through your heads!

1 guy weighs over 200lbs.

1 guy wieghs 180lbs.

The 200lbs guy said he would fight at 183lbs. The 180lbs guy wants to fight at 178lbs. He has been told it wasn't for the title also.

NICK IS A BITCH!

LOL logic fail. So you want Nick(according to you) to not only not cut weight, but fight above what his natural weight is. While Mayhem cuts his usual weight and comes in at 195+ lbs for the fight? You want Nick to give up 10+ lbs on fight day? Mayhem refused to compromise a single pound and Nick is the bitch? You are about as far from logic as you could be BBC.

Mayhem said he would fight at 183lbs a month ago, and that is giving up 2 lbs. He wouldn't be ten lbs more anyways. Diaz walks around at more than 180lbs. You are the one that is far from logic. You guys are being fanboys so I won't hate. We all know Mayhem would beat Nick down if they fought.

GDPofDRC wrote:

If Diaz says he wants to be a champion in three divisions, he is going about it all wrong.

Agreed, Diaz has said multiple times he'd like to fight at 185. I mean Mayhem is up to 208 I've read, asking him to cut 30 lbs is a bit much. The fair compromise seems to be 183, and Nick would probably feel very comfortable at that weight anyways.

LA wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

If Diaz says he wants to be a champion in three divisions, he is going about it all wrong.

Agreed, Diaz has said multiple times he'd like to fight at 185. I mean Mayhem is up to 208 I've read, asking him to cut 30 lbs is a bit much. The fair compromise seems to be 183, and Nick would probably feel very comfortable at that weight anyways.

Mayhem said he would fight Nick at 183 a month ago and now Nick is saying 178lbs. He is ducking Mayhem and we all know it. The bad thng is Oggy, Wolf, Captain, and OU are ignoring reality and the fact that Nick is doing whatever to stay away from a match with a superior fighter.

Diaz keeps saying he'd go back up to 185, but he probably is talking about those 85 neighborhood catchweights, off the cuff after a five round fight, and now all of a sudden he's a pussy or whatever.

You Diaz are stomping with your fingers in your ears. The truth is in front of you and you pretend it isn't there.

Nick Diaz does'nt want to fight Mayhem and we all know it. It may be because he only wants to defend his belt, or he might be scared and he knows he can't beat Mayhem? I hope Daley KO's him if they fight so Coker will make this fight. If Miller wins the MW title and Diaz loses his WW belt I bet he will fight at 185.