| Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:37 pm | |
| From Cesar Gracie's official website:
Jason "Mayhem" Miller has opted to not take a fight with Nick Diaz in January at a catchweight of 178lbs.
Despite having previously fought at the 170lbs weight limit, Miller now says that he is unwilling to meet at 178 and instead wants Strikeforce's Welterweight Champion to move up to middleweight to fight him. Miller has stated he would be willing to lose 2 pounds and fight at 183lbs... As of yet Miller has defeated none of the top Strikeforce contenders but did win a fight on MTV's Bully Beatdown show.
Strikeforce will now be searching for a new opponent for Diaz for their January card.
If im Scott Coker, im make Nick Diaz vs Paul Daley for the WW title. This is the best possible match to make right now. The back and forth shit talk between these 2 would be enough to sell this fight alone. They need to make this fight while Daley still has some of his UFC allure and before a random grappler embarrasses him. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:35 pm | |
| lmao love the verbage Oggy. Mayhem ain't scared and that was years ago when he fought at 170lbs. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:38 pm | |
| If he wasn't scared he would have took the fight at 178. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm | |
| Well if a fight with Mayhem is out(and im not completely sold that it is), then I don't see any other options for Nick besides Daley
Yeah Daley's plan of building his resume in the strikeforce cage prior to a title fight was commendable, but I think this needs to be done.
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:30 pm | |
| Well, Daley said he wanted to get on the January card. KJ Noons is still recovering from a broken jaw so he's not an option. It appears Diaz is on that card and does not have an opponent. It narrows it down, Paul. Time to put up or shut up because i have a feeling Cesar Gracie and Diaz will be strongly hinting towards Paul Daley in the next couple weeks.
Paul Daley does not need to build a resume in SF. It's the same sport, different banner.He was fighting Koscheck a half year ago in a #1 contenders match for GSP's belt. As much as i'd like to see Noons sock him up, i'd be just fine watching Diaz do it and mock him in the process. I doubt it would happen again, but i wonder how a Daley sucker punch on Nick Diaz would go over post fight? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:38 pm | |
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throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:55 am | |
| unless nick fights daley expect another strikeforce mismatch like last sats fights. also mayhem is not scared of nick. nick should just move up to 180 like he did in his previous catchweight fights | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:18 am | |
| Nick is the bitch and we all know that. Oggy does, but he won't admit it. Diaz walks around at 180ish period! Mayhem weighs 200 lbs! How is anything under 185 unfair? What is a few lbs for real when you don't have to cut Nick since you talked all this up for years????? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:48 am | |
| LOL at the pr spin in that press release, trying to make it sound like Miller is avoiding Diaz. |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:28 am | |
| Sucks cause it would be a good fight but I like both fighters so it's good for me cause I don't have to see one of them lose. But after this annoucement both fighters should STFU about fighting each other since they can't work it out. | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:52 am | |
| What about Cyborg vs Diaz ?? |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:03 am | |
| - Ali wrote:
- What about Cyborg vs Diaz ??
I'd be down for that! | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:52 pm | |
| - Ali wrote:
- What about Cyborg vs Diaz ??
Cool fight, could be a great brawl, but is Cyborg worthy? Questionable. Like many SF divisions, the contendors are still a win away from really earning the spot. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:45 pm | |
| Cyborg doesn't deserve a title shot. Diaz should just fight Daley if he isn't gonna man up with Mayhem. | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:39 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:42 am | |
| So Miller is currently willing to cut zero extra pounds and come in to fight at the exact same weight he came in vs Jake Shields. But Nick Diaz is willing to give 10lbs? LOL BBC you are trippin. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:48 am | |
| Diaz fought at 180 two fights in a row. That isn't a big concession at all. Gracie just said the other day they wouldn't fight a pound over 178 either and Mayhem said no chance in hell. I don't think he could even make that cut honestly, he's huge. It could happen if they set it at 181-182
The reason Diaz is taking shit for this is because he acts like such a hardass and tried to start a fight with Mayhem backstage and now his camp is quibbling over like 3-4 pounds? I thought homeboy gangsta wasn't scared of shit | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:52 am | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Diaz fought at 180 two fights in a row. That isn't a big concession at all. Gracie just said the other day they wouldn't fight a pound over 178 either and Mayhem said no chance in hell. I don't think he could even make that cut honestly, he's huge. It could happen if they set it at 181-182
The reason Diaz is taking shit for this is because he acts like such a hardass and tried to start a fight with Mayhem backstage and now his camp is quibbling over like 3-4 pounds? I thought homeboy gangsta wasn't scared of shit But Mayhem is acting an ass himself. He had his own part in starting the shit backstage. Mayhem hasn't been willing to give a single pound as of yet. Not 1. All he needs to give up is about 2lbs and this fight will probably get done. Agree to 181 and come in at 182. Just give something, you can't give nothing. That won't work here. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:53 am | |
| Yeah it could happen at 181-182 but I don't think both sides would agree. My anticipation for this fight has subsided with all this BS. That and I think Mayhem would win convincingly anyway | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:58 am | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Yeah it could happen at 181-182 but I don't think both sides would agree. My anticipation for this fight has subsided with all this BS. That and I think Mayhem would win convincingly anyway
I think Nick is doing his part but Mayhem is stuck on MW or bust here. IMO Mayhem it just milking this thing now, he is just acting. He doesn't really want this fight, if he did it would get done. He is using this to keep his name up. Nick has accomplished far more recently then Mayhem and is the higher ranked fighter. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:11 am | |
| Because Diaz fought above his natural weight class b4, that mean he needs to fight at an even higher weight now? to fight a guy that obviously wants the fight more then Nick does? A guy who used to fight at 170, but now won't cut more then 2 lbs below 185? And I've never considered Mayhem a huge 185.
This is all on Mayhem, Nick's willing to split the difference, If Mayhem is not then oh well. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:18 am | |
| Mayhem probably thought if he made enough jokes in the media Diaz's Stockton roots would come out and he would just come up to 183. Looks like that won't happen though.
Cpt, Mayhem fought at 170 like 5 years ago and talked about how brutal it was even back then and how dumb it was. He cuts down from around 205-210, he would probably be a zombie at 178 | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:29 am | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Mayhem probably thought if he made enough jokes in the media Diaz's Stockton roots would come out and he would just come up to 183. Looks like that won't happen though.
Cpt, Mayhem fought at 170 like 5 years ago and talked about how brutal it was even back then and how dumb it was. He cuts down from around 205-210, he would probably be a zombie at 178 That isn't factoring in the +1 allowance. With the new info that 179 is out there with the option to come in at 180 why not take it? If Mayhem really wants to prove a point, accept the fight and come in at 183, take the pay cut. | |
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:34 pm | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Nick Diaz will be fighting in January, but not against Mayhem... Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:59 pm | |
| i don't understand what is so hard to grasp. Nick is the champ. He didn't call out Mayhem, Mayhem called him out. Nick is willing to fight at 178 which means Mayhem could fight at 180. Nick is going up almsot 10 pounds, while Mayhem will not budge at all on the weight.
How in the fuck does that make Nick the scared one? Nick is saying let's do it, i'll move up 10 pounds if you will come down 5. Mayhem is saying no flat out. I think it's pretty clear that the only reason this fight isn't happening is the stubbornness of Mayhem. If he really wanted this fight that bad he would have taken it at 180. Fuck Mayhem. | |
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