| Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds | |
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| Subject: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:37 pm | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:42 pm | |
| Yeah I just watched that podcast. And I don't believe any of this shit he's talking. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:49 pm | |
| Mahem is the man, he shouldn't have to drop extra lb's for Diaz. |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:53 pm | |
| Diaz shouldnt have to move up to fight Mayhem either it goes both ways. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:56 pm | |
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- Mahem is the man, he shouldn't have to drop extra lb's for Diaz.
I'd bet that the fight does happen at 183 and Diaz's managment never said it had to be 178. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:57 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Diaz shouldnt have to move up to fight Mayhem either it goes both ways.
then this fight isn't happening, Mayhem physically can't cut, while diaz by the looks of it is being a bitch about it... there i said it | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:57 pm | |
| We're also just suppose to believe Mayhem that his show is completely real and not set up in any way
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:57 pm | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:59 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- Diaz shouldnt have to move up to fight Mayhem either it goes both ways.
then this fight isn't happening, Mayhem physically can't cut, while diaz by the looks of it is being a bitch about it... there i said it No by Jason's words theirs no proof of that | |
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Mr.Huck White Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:59 pm | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:00 pm | |
| I won't believe this shit untill Diaz or someone from his camp confirms that they want it at 178. Untill then this is all made up Mayhem shit. | |
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Mr.Huck White Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:01 pm | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- I won't believe this shit untill Diaz or someone from his camp confirms that they want it at 178. Untill then this is all made up Mayhem shit.
If trainer Cesar Gracie gets his way, Strikeforce welterweight champion and prized pupil Nick Diaz (23-7 MMA, 4-0 SF) finally will meet Jason "Mayhem" Miller (24-7 MMA, 1-1 SF) in early 2011. The goal is for the fight to take place at a currently unannounced Jan. 29 Strikeforce event at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif. But as Gracie told MMAjunkie.com Radio ( www.mmajunkie.com/radio) on Monday, the champ won't move up a weight class to get the fight booked. "I was talking to Strikeforce a little bit about it today," said Gracie, a finalist for "Trainer of the Year" in the 2010 World MMA Awards. "No opponent has been named or anything. But he's going to fight on that date, and hopefully Fedor (Emelianenko) will be part of it too. It could be a really exciting time." What would make it even more exciting is Diaz vs. Miller. But Gracie said it's still a work in progress. "That fight just hasn't been offered to us like in an official manner yet," he said. "I know 'Mayhem' goes on his websites and (says) Nick is ducking him and everything. "It's kind of hard to duck someone when you haven't even been offered the fight. It's just 'Mayhem' talking about that. Until it's been offered, you can't say yes or no." Gracie said he hadn't talked to Diaz about the fight but will in the next fight days. Besides, it hasn't even really been offered. But Gracie said if it's a fight Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker wants, they'll take it. But it won't be in Miller's middleweight division. "If that fight was offered, yeah, we'd probably take that fight," he said. "We'd just have to look at what weight class it's going to be in, and apparently, 'Mayhem' can't make 170. We're not going to accommodate going to 185. It doesn't really make that much sense to call someone out, and the champ has to ... go to your weight class." Instead, Gracie prefers the fight to take place right in the middle – at 178 pounds, which is within a few pounds of where Diaz previously met Frank Shamrock and Scott Smith in Strikeforce catchweight bouts.Currently, Diaz is training for marathons and keeping the weight off. And besides, though he's receptive to the bout, Gracie said Miller hasn't accomplished much in his recent bouts and really is in a win-win situation regardless of the outcome of a fight with Diaz, who's riding an eight-fight win streak. "Being the champ of 'Bully Beatdown' doesn't really make you a contender," said Gracie, referring to Miller's MTV reality show. "It doesn't. If he were beating people that's important, yeah. But the champ doesn't need to move or down in weight because someone says, 'Don't be scared, homie.'" The Diaz and Miller feud reached a boiling point back in April at the now-infamous "Strikeforce: Nashville" event. After teammate Jake Shields defeated Dan Henderson in the headliner, Miller, who picked up a win earlier in the night, entered the cage to demand a rematch with the then-middleweight champ. The confrontation didn't go over well with Shields and his teammates, including Diaz, who soon were part of a wild in-cage melee that marred the CBS-televised event. Diaz and Miller both have barked about a possible fight since then. | |
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Mr.Huck White Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:03 pm | |
| Do I need to sing it too you? Cesar Gracie himself said it. Mayhem didn't make it up. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:04 pm | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:06 pm | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:08 pm | |
| - Mr.Huck wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- Ali wrote:
- Mahem is the man, he shouldn't have to drop extra lb's for Diaz.
I'd bet that the fight does happen at 183 and Diaz's managment never said it had to be 178. Oh Please Cesar Gracie himself said the only way this fight is happening is if its at 178lb.
Here is the link - http://mmajunkie.com/news/21502/cesar-gracie-open-to-nick-diaz-vs-mayhem-on-jan-29-catchweight-required.mma
Hey I can admit when I'm wrong. It doesn't say that it had to be 178 but Cesar did say he perfered it. WOW that changes my view | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:09 pm | |
| Still doesnt change mine at all. | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:12 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:14 pm | |
| - josh200612 wrote:
- + 3 Mr. Huck!
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| Nick walks around at 180 minimum. Why not fight at 183lbs since he has a few other times? Wait, I think I have said that 25 times already and so have a few other posters. Nick is being a bitch! | |
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:49 pm | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:01 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- As long as we can acknowledge that all of a sudden Diaz seems to care so much about a couple pounds even though he pretends to be some badass street gangster. He may actually be intelligent enough to know that he would get his ass beat. That's smarter than I ever gave him credit for
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:03 pm | |
| I have to side with Mayhem here.
Nick can atleast offer a reason why he was able to fight Smith and Shamrock basically at middleweight but now is exlusive to a division where he knows there is a dearth of ready contenders for his belt as soon as a well rounded, in prime middleweight has a bone to pick with him. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:35 pm | |
| Diaz is the 170 champ. He shouldn't have to move up for anybody. Mayhem went after him so he should cut down. 178 is a fair compromise. |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Jason “Mayhem” Miller says there’s no way he’ll fight Nick Diaz at 178 pounds Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:47 pm | |
| Wikipedia has the Smith fight at 180, the Shamrock fight at 179.
And yeah the 3-4 lbs is significant.
And no Nicks walk around weight does not help Mayhems argument.
I really hope this fight happens, but I think the impetus is on Mayhem. don't talk all day about the fight, and then demand Nick come to you. | |
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