Question bout Brock

Guys im new to the board but remember alot of the vets from the old board and comin on here i have a question. Do most here hate on brock. Im in no means a brock nutter but at the same time not a brock hater. After reading several posts here it seems some are writing him off or perhaps not giving cain props as the #1 hw for defeating him. Some posts i've read even label brock as having little skill if any or just dont consider him as a top hw simply because of short fighting record. To be honest the brock hate actually makes me a fan of his. His short record and the opponents he as defeated. Add to that his chin that has taken punishment from 2 of the divisions hardest punchers and not being put completely out. Being the second person to ever tko randy. Being the only person to stop carwin. Being able to control one of the top bjj hws in mir. In the end just like any other fighter those that lost to lesnar lack something just like brock lacked something against cain, a complete fighter (imo). Some posts even go on to say how most of the other top hws in the division that are not in the ufc would beat brock as well wen in reality the lack something as well from being complete fighters or having the edge on brock (with the exception of fedor).In the end one doesnt have to be a brock fan or even like him but there is no denying him as a top hw or as a legit former champ he was.

I think it is more he was over hyped.......

Very few are sensible when it comes to Brock around here...

LA u got that right. People would like to believe he is the worse fighter ever around here when the truth is he is very talented and will learn from this loss and get better.

I think Brock is still a top guy, but he needs to improve in some areas if he wants to beat a guy like Cain.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

I think Brock is still a top guy, but he needs to improve in some areas if he wants to beat a guy like Cain.

+1

Most people here, LA included, assumed Brock was this unbeatable monster who would beat Fedor and all this nonsense. Now people are a little more realistic. LA was right on the money when he said very few are sensible when it comes to Brock.


I had it right all along. His wrestling was overrated and the rest of his game is weak. His athleticism will not deliver him every time. I said that from the beginning. I still say it. My opinion on Lesnar has not changed.

Cain was built up slow and fed a few cans to give give confidence and slowly build his game to where it is now. Brock was given tough opponents from the get go and really hasn't had time to improve even more. He needs to step back and start again. His next fight should be against Kongo or Gonzaga.

Cain is top 2 now while Brock is at 4 for me.

Cain would have beat Brock 2 years ago and would have beat the same guys Lesnar did in similar fashion.

Never said unbeatable, but hard to beat, and still think he would be for many HWs.

And still would pick him over Fedor, it's easy to say oh Fedor, oh legacy, oh resume, Brock couldn't handle his standup, but Fedor ain't stoppin that initial shot, and Fedor isn't moving a man with a 60lb weight advantage off him.

You got one right, good job, we're proud of you among you're many worng, if you want to talk step up, do the GOR and Pick'em full time.

Brock out weighs Fedor by 40 pounds not 60. Even if Brock gets Fedor down which he probably wont Fedor would submit him anyway.

LA you have never given any fighter outside Strikeforce credit besides the overated Alvarez. You think Alvarez is great and that Fedor is overated. That's a joke.

When did I say Fedor was overrated? I simply said certain fighters right now would beat him....

Fedor weighed in at 225 for his last fight, Brock at fight time weighs around 275-80, closer to 60.

How couldn't Brock get him down? like what? fucking Rogers got him done and has literally no wrestling backround what so ever.

He wasn't expecting the takedown from Rogers. He would be from Brock. Brock weighed 270 against Cain and Fedor weighed 231 in his last fight.

An excuse I guess, I have a hard time believing Fedor stops Brock's shot.

LA wrote:

Never said unbeatable, but hard to beat, and still think he would be for many HWs.

And still would pick him over Fedor, it's easy to say oh Fedor, oh legacy, oh resume, Brock couldn't handle his standup, but Fedor ain't stoppin that initial shot, and Fedor isn't moving a man with a 60lb weight advantage off him.

You got one right, good job, we're proud of you among you're many worng, if you want to talk step up, do the GOR and Pick'em full time.

What pickem website has he been using I wonder with facts like these?

Huh? Pick'em? it was a guess and it probably is about that anyways in all reality.

According to LA Brock kills men by the hundreds. And if he were to fight Fedor, he'd consume him with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.

I've heard from Freak, nevermind he only goes by what Rogan says.

LA wrote:

I've heard from Freak, nevermind he only goes by what Rogan says.

I've used Rogan as a reference once you moron.

Rogan stop telling him to use MMath, come on now.

You ask for it you get it...

Rogan is a smart guy. If a guy were to blindly cite him often that would be one thing, but using that as a dig for a single reference point is pretty cheap and lame LA.


Unless he said something ridiculous, what did he say?

Rogan said Brock is the quickest fastest HW in the World, as fast as a MW, this when I said Cain has the quickness and speed edge.


He keeps trying to always go at me on shit....

oY you evr have Chocolate Bock?

I wasn't talking about hand speed I was talking about cage speed and as we saw from the Cain fight Brock can run pretty quick

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

According to LA Brock kills men by the hundreds. And if he were to fight Fedor, he'd consume him with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.

All true BTW LOL.