Brock still number 2 most places

Sherdog as posted
http://mmaweekly.com/mma-top-10-rankings-cain-velasquez-takes-over-heavyweight-division
http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/heavyweight-265-lbs/
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings

Brock is not the #2 guy imo after his last two fights. He has 7 fights now and is still new to MMA. Potential wise I could see him being a top fighter again, but not right now.

OU wrote:

I disagree. Brock needs to work with a good Muay Thai and Boxing coach for a year. If he did that he would be champ again.

Which is totally ridiculous and indicative of a press which gets the cold shoulder by Dana if they do not puff up the UFC.

Dude has 5 wins, and just got his ass handed to him. Would have lost the previous fight if the tank that he were fighting were not equipped with a moped gas tank.

U don't agree with that ranking do u LA?

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

I disagree. Brock needs to work with a good Muay Thai and Boxing coach for a year. If he did that he would be champ again.

Seriously?

I still think he could beat a lot of guys myself, he needs to keep learning, really what it's about, learn how to react to getting hit, not like Caindoesn't hit hard, 2,200 PSI.

LA wrote:

I still think he could beat a lot of guys myself, he needs to keep learning, really what it's about, learn how to react to getting hit, not like Caindoesn't hit hard, 2,200 PSI.

but do u agree with a #2 ranking?

I think after 1 for me it's very up in the air

Wow I just don't see him, right now today, as the #2 guy. He is a monster that could beat anyone, but he is also vulnerable to everyone in HW and he is only 5-2!!!

That's why it annoys me when people bring other site's rankings in an argument. They all suck. Brock is at 4 for me.

I am a huge Brock fan and if they have him at 2 Im happy with that but he needs alot of work and Im sure he knows that. We have to remember he loss to probably the best HW in the world and he will be back and much better.

If you rank Brock over Fedor then Dana should feel damn proud that he fooled you. Fedor would rape Brock. Nothing has changed there, he would have raped him 1 year ago, 2 years ago, he'd rape him now, he'd rape him 2 years from now. Think otherwise you're fooling yourself.

If Cain destroyed Brock then Fedor sure as hell would.

Cain and Fedor aren't similar at all. We still have no idea if a 230 lb man with wrestling not as good as Cain could stop Brock from taking him down

Fedor is a Sambo beast though. He won't have to take Brock down anyway. He'd ko him standing.

bobbitt15 wrote:

Cain and Fedor aren't similar at all. We still have no idea if a 230 lb man with wrestling not as good as Cain could stop Brock from taking him down

He would stop Brock from living.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Fedor is a Sambo beast though. He won't have to take Brock down anyway. He'd ko him standing.

If it stayed there no doubt. Still not sold on him being big enough to just stop a Brock running double though. Brock is just so much bigger, Fedor is a flabby 230

While Fedor is the more complete fighter, as I stated before the Cain vs. Brock fight, the fight will be determined on whether or not Cain's wrestling is good enough to get back to his feet after the inevitable Lesnar takedown...and he did...twice. The question is whether Fedor, who honestly is the size of a 205 lbs'er, with wrestling far below that of Cain, would be able to get up after being taken down. Fedor would destroy Brock on their feet, but if he cant ko him right away and gets taken down, the outcome would be determined by whether he could get up. Brock would only be able to win that fight from top, as was the case with his fights against Cain and Carwin. On the ground, with Brock on top, despite Fedor's great subs from his back, the advantage is Brocks. On the feet, no question its Fedor's advantage. If Fedor could get up after being taken down, I say he eventually wins by tko. If he can't get up from bottom, I think he gets tko'd on the ground similar to Mir. Just a realistic approach.

OU wrote:

If you rank Brock over Fedor then Dana should feel damn proud that he fooled you. Fedor would rape Brock. Nothing has changed there, he would have raped him 1 year ago, 2 years ago, he'd rape him now, he'd rape him 2 years from now. Think otherwise you're fooling yourself.

Why do I get the feeling you have a boner writing this? Lots of man on man rape discussed there Sooners.

Ziggy116 wrote:

OU wrote:

If you rank Brock over Fedor then Dana should feel damn proud that he fooled you. Fedor would rape Brock. Nothing has changed there, he would have raped him 1 year ago, 2 years ago, he'd rape him now, he'd rape him 2 years from now. Think otherwise you're fooling yourself.

Why do I get the feeling you have a boner writing this? Lots of man on man rape discussed there Sooners.

You're just jealous because I stopped rapping you a long time ago. Don't worry, Daddy will be back.

Whew, thank god. Thought you forgot about me!

haha I bet randy wishes he would of just floored brock instead of trying to wrestle him.

Randy would've been clipped with something like he was regardless. The size of Brock's fists combined with Randy's non-existent 50 year old chin = disaster

bobbitt15 wrote:

Randy would've been clipped with something like he was regardless. The size of Brock's fists combined with Randy's non-existent 50 year old chin = disaster

I disagree. People assume this but that shot clipped him in the wrong spot. Almost the exact same spot Vitor landed on Franklin.