So long Scott Smith!

MMAEYES wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I would laugh my ass off if Smith takes another beating only to land another hail mary for the win.

I would love that

Not me! I will cry if that happens again. I could see Manhoef doing it, but not Smith again.

1)I think Le's loss to Smith was clearly due to conditioning. It also doesn't help that Le lacks KO power, he leaves guys in fights. The lack of KO power also hurts the "best pure striker" argument.

2)I think Manhoef would rough Le up.

3)Shamrock Le was a classic. Should def be revisited. Not sure who I'd pick, but Shamrock does find ways to lose latelly.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Le is only a middle of the road fighter for the same reason that would keep Melvin a middle of the road fighter - suspect ground game.

He is one of the best pure strikers in all of MMA.

Show me ONE elite striker he's faced? You can't call him an elite striker when he hasn't beaten anyone. A washed up Shamrock? Scott Smith? ROFL. Melvin would knock his head into the 2nd row.

Robbie Lawler is considered an elite striker and got absolutely dominated for all but 1 second.

Unlike Lawler, and like Manhoef, Le has a well documented striking back ground and is considered the best San Shou fighter of all time.

Also, a smart fightfan should be able to tell he is elite just from watching him fight, even if he is fighting nobodies. Looking at the names of opponents to evaluate skill isn't always the best choice Mikey.

For instance - Lawler and Smith fought tooth and nail and had back and fourth brawls, Le and Smith was a one sided humaliating beatdown until the very end.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Also, a smart fightfan should be able to tell he is elite just from watching him fight, even if he is fighting nobodies. Looking at the names of opponents to evaluate skill isn't always the best choice Mikey.

For instance - Lawler and Smith fought tooth and nail and had back and fourth brawls, Le and Smith was a one sided humaliating beatdown until the very end.

Tru dat my nuh!

Man most a been a slow couple days if a fucking Scott Smith threads gets over 50

And Manhoef or Lawler would destroy Le, Le's kind of a pussy and doesn't have finishing power unlike those other two, highlight reel KO's for either Melvin or Robbie

Yo has anyone ever realized how much of a double standard BBC has for Le over Fedor? He ignores logic to see evil Russian boogiemen around every corner with Fedor, but Le, a guy with no top ten wins his entire career who has constantly lied about his intentions, his fights and his future while champion for Strikeforce, gets a free pass to do as he pleases.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Yo has anyone ever realized how much of a double standard BBC has for Le over Fedor? He ignores logic to see evil Russian boogiemen around every corner with Fedor, but Le, a guy with no top ten wins his entire career who has constantly lied about his intentions, his fights and his future while champion for Strikeforce, gets a free pass to do as he pleases.

No I was just as mad about Le doing the movies Wolf. I wasn't around to post during that period is all. Nice try.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Man most a been a slow couple days if a fucking Scott Smith threads gets over 50

And Manhoef or Lawler would destroy Le, Le's kind of a pussy and doesn't have finishing power unlike those other two, highlight reel KO's for either Melvin or Robbie

+1. Le is a creative and high level striker but he would crumble in the face of Melvin's pressure IMO over the course of a fight. He likes it a lot better when he can just outclass the other guy and not have to take any punishment

I also like Fedor and follow his every move more than I do Cung. I like watching Cung fight because the guy is sick. I follow BJ and Fedor alot more for real. Cung isn't in the news as much either like Fedor has been with what is going on. Anymore misleads I need to address Wolf?

[quote="bigbeastcardinal12"]I also like Fedor and follow his every move more than I do Cung. I like watching Cung fight because the guy is sick. I follow BJ and Fedor alot more for real. Cung isn't in the news as much either like Fedor has been with what is going on. Anymore misleads I need to address Wolf?[/quote]

Where were you on the night of November 14th, 2009?

[quote="LudoCain"]

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

I also like Fedor and follow his every move more than I do Cung. I like watching Cung fight because the guy is sick. I follow BJ and Fedor alot more for real. Cung isn't in the news as much either like Fedor has been with what is going on. Anymore misleads I need to address Wolf?[/quote]

Where were you on the night of November 14th, 2009?

Watching the fight and crying in the corner of my living room. I meant when all the controversary when Cung wasn't fighting and blowing MMA off. I wasn't posting then or I would have been dogging out Cung too. The thing is Cung did movies and was honest about it. Fedor hasn't been and things are still popping up. Even today we get a thread about Ratfinklestein commenting on Dana to make us think something else might be happening. Of course that is what we make up as fans.