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PostSubject: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:34 pm

It doesnt happen often, but when it does happen oh man is it shocking. Not understanding what Im talking about well heres some examples.

Criteria : the ATG must be in his prime or damn near close to it.

Sonny Liston vs Floyd Patterson - Just an absolute beat down, Sonny mugs the fastest heavyweight champ ever and does it again in the rematch (just 10 seconds quicker)

George Foreman vs Joe Frazier - Joe is the man, he is coming off 2 KO wins over Ron Stander and some other bum after beating Ali, he is unbeatable and may rule the division for a long time.........unless you noticed this huge guy thats all wrong for Frazier, watch the fight and you see why. 2 rounds 6 knockdowns. WOW

Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman - how did Ali own Foreman? he just got beat up till Foreman got tired. Right? Wrong! This fight stayed in Georges mind for damn near 25 years, and for a reason, he was mentally owned by Ali and I dont think George could ever live with that.

Jake LaMotta vs Ray Robinson - the St. Valentines Day Massacre.........I think that sums it up and no further explanation is needed.

Ray Robinson vs Gene Fullmer - that check left hook for the KO is just nuts, FUllmer had never hit the deck before, and the way Fullmer is just groping at the ground as if to say what the fuck was that, shows ya what a amazing athlete Ray was.

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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:40 pm

Chavez vs DLH I-II
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:44 pm

Ken Shamrock vs _____________. About 27 names could be inserted.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:50 pm

Chavez was pretty far gone by then
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:52 pm

I just took a peak in my crystal ball and Pacman vs Margo is going to end up on this list.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:53 pm

How could anyone ever leave this one out?

Whittaker vs Chavez Sr
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Chavez vs Camacho
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:55 pm

DLH vs Trinidad- Tito was out classed by Oscar that night, the robbery was another story.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 6:58 pm

Jones vs Hopkins
Jones vs Toney
Lewis vs Tyson
Flomo vs Mosley
Lewis vs Holyfield
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 7:03 pm

Birdofthad wrote:
Chavez was pretty far gone by then

true, post Frankie Randall Chavez

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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 7:12 pm

great adds on Pernell vs Chavez wow how did i forget that one

Jones vs Toney and BHop 1 are great adds

wolf I actually am thinking Margarito is gonna pull it off 2
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 7:13 pm

and come on Ken only got owned twice in his prime

vs Royce Gracie the first time and Minori Suzuki
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 7:14 pm

i almost added Tito vs Trinidad but
1. I dont think Vargas is an ATG
2. Vargas was competitive enough to not be classified as owned IMo
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 7:14 pm

HERES A FUNNY ONE

It doesnt fit criteria though

a All Time Great 50 year old Larry Holmes beats the best version of Butterbean there ever was hahahahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 8:38 pm

SRL vs norris
Oscar vs Pacman
Floyd vs Castillo I
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 8:55 pm

it seems like most people arent getting this topic because most people arent picking a fighter in his prime and the fighter didnt get owned, just lost, and the fighter isnt necessarily an ATG.

hopkins owned tito in his prime. maybe it wasnt his prime weight but he was still dominant.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyTue Oct 26, 2010 10:11 pm

George Foreman vs Joe Frazier: This was a destruction, a total domination/ownage, like few in HW boxing history, I couldn't believe what I was seeing, Foreman's punches were lifting Frazier off his feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMF9uIs4Fc

Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson: Tyson was thought to be invincible, Douglas was a huge underdog, Tyson had a few moments, but Douglas whipped him like a redheaded stepchild, and then knocked him out, one of the top 5 HW ownages of alltime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frzkJv142vU&feature=related
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyWed Oct 27, 2010 2:15 am

Vince Phillips destruction of Kostya Tszyu fits the topic. Tszyu is considered an ATG, had about 6 or 7 defenses of his IBF belt and was a huge favorite against "Cool". I remember having some friends over to watch the fight and telling them how good I thought Tszyu was. Next thing I know, they're picking him up off the canvas.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyWed Oct 27, 2010 10:54 am

flapanther2001 wrote:
Vince Phillips destruction of Kostya Tszyu fits the topic. Tszyu is considered an ATG, had about 6 or 7 defenses of his IBF belt and was a huge favorite against "Cool". I remember having some friends over to watch the fight and telling them how good I thought Tszyu was. Next thing I know, they're picking him up off the canvas.


I couldn't believe that, Vince Phillips was an "also ran" who wasn't thought to have much of a chance against, Tszyu, sometimes in boxing you just never know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpPA2u1iLNE
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Pacquiao-Barrera
Arguello-Pryor
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 9:58 am

pryor v arguello,latter was close to prime
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 9:59 am

barrera v hamed.latter not atg maybe but hof
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 5:09 pm

interesting fact about the tsyzu phillips fight.phillips had never lost a jw fight at that stage.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 8:15 pm

shakefree wrote:
interesting fact about the tsyzu phillips fight.phillips had never lost a jw fight at that stage.
I like the way the announcer says "Vince Phillips has finally won a world title."
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptySat Oct 30, 2010 1:42 pm

Ken Norton - Ali I. San Diego. 1973: Worst beating Ali ever took during his hey day.

Actually, the fight should've never happened. Norton was no where on Ali's radar. The story was told as follows. Norton & Ali ended up at the same bar. The women were paying special attention to Ken Norton, which drove Ali crazy. He ran at Ken Norton, shouting all kinds of threats, etc. That led to the fight. Ali decided to add him to his "Bum of the Month" tour and got surprised. At least that's Norton's story.
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PostSubject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned   When a All Time Great Gets Owned EmptySat Oct 30, 2010 1:47 pm

4445Frank wrote:
Ken Norton - Ali I. San Diego. 1973: Worst beating Ali ever took during his hey day.

Actually, the fight should've never happened. Norton was no where on Ali's radar. The story was told as follows. Norton & Ali ended up at the same bar. The women were paying special attention to Ken Norton, which drove Ali crazy. He ran at Ken Norton, shouting all kinds of threats, etc. That led to the fight. Ali decided to add him to his "Bum of the Month" tour and got surprised. At least that's Norton's story.

Although Ali got the win,the body shots he received from the first Chuvalo fight landed him in the hospital.
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