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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:34 pm | |
| It doesnt happen often, but when it does happen oh man is it shocking. Not understanding what Im talking about well heres some examples.
Criteria : the ATG must be in his prime or damn near close to it.
Sonny Liston vs Floyd Patterson - Just an absolute beat down, Sonny mugs the fastest heavyweight champ ever and does it again in the rematch (just 10 seconds quicker)
George Foreman vs Joe Frazier - Joe is the man, he is coming off 2 KO wins over Ron Stander and some other bum after beating Ali, he is unbeatable and may rule the division for a long time.........unless you noticed this huge guy thats all wrong for Frazier, watch the fight and you see why. 2 rounds 6 knockdowns. WOW
Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman - how did Ali own Foreman? he just got beat up till Foreman got tired. Right? Wrong! This fight stayed in Georges mind for damn near 25 years, and for a reason, he was mentally owned by Ali and I dont think George could ever live with that.
Jake LaMotta vs Ray Robinson - the St. Valentines Day Massacre.........I think that sums it up and no further explanation is needed.
Ray Robinson vs Gene Fullmer - that check left hook for the KO is just nuts, FUllmer had never hit the deck before, and the way Fullmer is just groping at the ground as if to say what the fuck was that, shows ya what a amazing athlete Ray was.
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gomez1012 Black Belt
Posts : 3011 Join date : 2010-05-26 Location : Bay Area
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:40 pm | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:44 pm | |
| Ken Shamrock vs _____________. About 27 names could be inserted. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:50 pm | |
| Chavez was pretty far gone by then | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:52 pm | |
| I just took a peak in my crystal ball and Pacman vs Margo is going to end up on this list. | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Marquez Brothers, Robert Guerrero, Abner Mares, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, Devon Alexander, Jose Benavidez Jr and Nick Diaz Posts : 588 Join date : 2010-05-21 Age : 35 Location : Gilroy, CA
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:53 pm | |
| How could anyone ever leave this one out?
Whittaker vs Chavez Sr add
Chavez vs Camacho | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Marquez Brothers, Robert Guerrero, Abner Mares, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, Devon Alexander, Jose Benavidez Jr and Nick Diaz Posts : 588 Join date : 2010-05-21 Age : 35 Location : Gilroy, CA
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:55 pm | |
| DLH vs Trinidad- Tito was out classed by Oscar that night, the robbery was another story. | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Marquez Brothers, Robert Guerrero, Abner Mares, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, Devon Alexander, Jose Benavidez Jr and Nick Diaz Posts : 588 Join date : 2010-05-21 Age : 35 Location : Gilroy, CA
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:58 pm | |
| Jones vs Hopkins Jones vs Toney Lewis vs Tyson Flomo vs Mosley Lewis vs Holyfield
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gomez1012 Black Belt
Posts : 3011 Join date : 2010-05-26 Location : Bay Area
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:03 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- Chavez was pretty far gone by then
true, post Frankie Randall Chavez Morales-Raheem | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:12 pm | |
| great adds on Pernell vs Chavez wow how did i forget that one
Jones vs Toney and BHop 1 are great adds
wolf I actually am thinking Margarito is gonna pull it off 2 | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:13 pm | |
| and come on Ken only got owned twice in his prime
vs Royce Gracie the first time and Minori Suzuki | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:14 pm | |
| i almost added Tito vs Trinidad but 1. I dont think Vargas is an ATG 2. Vargas was competitive enough to not be classified as owned IMo | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:14 pm | |
| HERES A FUNNY ONE
It doesnt fit criteria though
a All Time Great 50 year old Larry Holmes beats the best version of Butterbean there ever was hahahahahaha | |
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jz_hova White Belt
Posts : 63 Join date : 2010-10-01 Location : Philly
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:38 pm | |
| SRL vs norris Oscar vs Pacman Floyd vs Castillo I
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powerpuncher Green Belt
Posts : 635 Join date : 2010-05-14
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:55 pm | |
| it seems like most people arent getting this topic because most people arent picking a fighter in his prime and the fighter didnt get owned, just lost, and the fighter isnt necessarily an ATG.
hopkins owned tito in his prime. maybe it wasnt his prime weight but he was still dominant. | |
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Ring Purple Belt
Posts : 1032 Join date : 2010-05-13
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| George Foreman vs Joe Frazier: This was a destruction, a total domination/ownage, like few in HW boxing history, I couldn't believe what I was seeing, Foreman's punches were lifting Frazier off his feet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMF9uIs4FcBuster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson: Tyson was thought to be invincible, Douglas was a huge underdog, Tyson had a few moments, but Douglas whipped him like a redheaded stepchild, and then knocked him out, one of the top 5 HW ownages of alltime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frzkJv142vU&feature=related | |
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flapanther2001 Orange Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Aaron Pryor, Rocky Marciano, Arturo Gatti Posts : 354 Join date : 2010-09-07 Age : 68 Location : Sunny Florida
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:15 am | |
| Vince Phillips destruction of Kostya Tszyu fits the topic. Tszyu is considered an ATG, had about 6 or 7 defenses of his IBF belt and was a huge favorite against "Cool". I remember having some friends over to watch the fight and telling them how good I thought Tszyu was. Next thing I know, they're picking him up off the canvas. | |
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Ring Purple Belt
Posts : 1032 Join date : 2010-05-13
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:54 am | |
| - flapanther2001 wrote:
- Vince Phillips destruction of Kostya Tszyu fits the topic. Tszyu is considered an ATG, had about 6 or 7 defenses of his IBF belt and was a huge favorite against "Cool". I remember having some friends over to watch the fight and telling them how good I thought Tszyu was. Next thing I know, they're picking him up off the canvas.
I couldn't believe that, Vince Phillips was an "also ran" who wasn't thought to have much of a chance against, Tszyu, sometimes in boxing you just never know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpPA2u1iLNE | |
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NBrooks5 Orange Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Manny, JMM, Casamayor and Katsidis Posts : 388 Join date : 2010-05-13 Age : 54 Location : New England
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:50 am | |
| Pacquiao-Barrera Arguello-Pryor | |
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shakefree White Belt
Posts : 77 Join date : 2010-07-24
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:58 am | |
| pryor v arguello,latter was close to prime | |
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shakefree White Belt
Posts : 77 Join date : 2010-07-24
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:59 am | |
| barrera v hamed.latter not atg maybe but hof | |
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shakefree White Belt
Posts : 77 Join date : 2010-07-24
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:09 pm | |
| interesting fact about the tsyzu phillips fight.phillips had never lost a jw fight at that stage. | |
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flapanther2001 Orange Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Aaron Pryor, Rocky Marciano, Arturo Gatti Posts : 354 Join date : 2010-09-07 Age : 68 Location : Sunny Florida
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:15 pm | |
| - shakefree wrote:
- interesting fact about the tsyzu phillips fight.phillips had never lost a jw fight at that stage.
I like the way the announcer says "Vince Phillips has finally won a world title." | |
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4445Frank Purple Belt
Posts : 1517 Join date : 2010-04-09
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:42 pm | |
| Ken Norton - Ali I. San Diego. 1973: Worst beating Ali ever took during his hey day.
Actually, the fight should've never happened. Norton was no where on Ali's radar. The story was told as follows. Norton & Ali ended up at the same bar. The women were paying special attention to Ken Norton, which drove Ali crazy. He ran at Ken Norton, shouting all kinds of threats, etc. That led to the fight. Ali decided to add him to his "Bum of the Month" tour and got surprised. At least that's Norton's story. | |
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WinstonSmith Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Marvin Hagler,Ben Henderson,Rich Franklin,Clay Guida Posts : 1308 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 62 Location : West of the Mississippi
| Subject: Re: When a All Time Great Gets Owned Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:47 pm | |
| - 4445Frank wrote:
- Ken Norton - Ali I. San Diego. 1973: Worst beating Ali ever took during his hey day.
Actually, the fight should've never happened. Norton was no where on Ali's radar. The story was told as follows. Norton & Ali ended up at the same bar. The women were paying special attention to Ken Norton, which drove Ali crazy. He ran at Ken Norton, shouting all kinds of threats, etc. That led to the fight. Ali decided to add him to his "Bum of the Month" tour and got surprised. At least that's Norton's story. Although Ali got the win,the body shots he received from the first Chuvalo fight landed him in the hospital. | |
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