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Diego408 Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Marquez Brothers, Robert Guerrero, Abner Mares, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, Devon Alexander, Jose Benavidez Jr and Nick Diaz Posts : 588 Join date : 2010-05-21 Age : 35 Location : Gilroy, CA
| Subject: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:56 pm | |
| (in America), This guys style is unappealing to most (HBO didnt want to televise him after the Stevens bout). Dirrell fight amatuerish, he slaps and runs for most of the fight, but when the guy is looking to kill, he actually hits hard and fights the way we want (happened in the last 3 rounds of the Froch fight and for most of the Abraham fight). He had the iron chined guys like Abraham and Froch hurt at one point in their fights, so he has pop along with that spetacular speed.
Not only in this forum, but on others like ESPN, Virusscene and even on Youtube (comments), Dirrell is always bashed. i read an article on Virusscene talking about how the majority of people on the forums believe the guy is faking his injury.
Is it because he is that much disliked that nost dont buy this excuse? Ward and Dirrell never came to terms for their fight BTW. Ward always seemed like he wanted the fight more, while Direll was disintrested in it. Im pretty sure Haymon wants Dirrell as far away from Ward as possible. We never see haymon fighters take many step ups in class. I saw that punch Abraham hit him with, it didnt look nearly as devestating as the one he hit Taylor with. Taylor was out before he hit the canvas, as for Dirrell, he had a few seconds before he looked to be out from that blow.
thoughts on Dirrell and his injury? | |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ricky Burns Posts : 2946 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 47 Location : Richmond, Virginia
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:00 pm | |
| I'm not normally one to crap on fighters who say they are injured. I almost always given the fighter the benefit of the doubt (even though alot of fighters lie about injuries it seems).
I'm struggling to believe Dirrell. I really am. | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Marquez Brothers, Robert Guerrero, Abner Mares, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, Devon Alexander, Jose Benavidez Jr and Nick Diaz Posts : 588 Join date : 2010-05-21 Age : 35 Location : Gilroy, CA
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:04 pm | |
| - captainanddew wrote:
- I'm not normally one to crap on fighters who say they are injured. I almost always given the fighter the benefit of the doubt (even though alot of fighters lie about injuries it seems).
I'm struggling to believe Dirrell. I really am. yeah thats my point (even that article on Virusscene), no one gives him the benifit of the doubt. Then when you get a tough fighter like Rafa Marquez and Kessler claim injury, everyone just hopes they get better. To tell you the truth, it probably has to do with no one really being so intrested in seeing him fight. Dirrell is seen as a wuss by most boxing fans, shit Ive yet to meet a Direll fan. | |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ricky Burns Posts : 2946 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 47 Location : Richmond, Virginia
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:09 pm | |
| I figured out how to do a gif!!! Yeah, I'm the dumbest person to ever graduate college and law school if I can't figure out how to do a gif. But in my defense, telephones and computers weren't commonplace when I was a kid. You had to dial with a big ass phone and if you fucked up, you had to start dialing again.
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RUM CAPITAL Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Carlos Ortiz,Henry Armstrong and Wilfredo Gomez Posts : 770 Join date : 2010-07-10 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| i can't stand the guy. abraham is a fool for hitting him while he was down because at that point it looked like abe would have the possibility of koing that clown. but what really got to me was the whole shit regarding the ward fight. now whether or not he has a condition is not the point since the fight was cancelled even before that. | |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ricky Burns Posts : 2946 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 47 Location : Richmond, Virginia
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:13 pm | |
| - captainanddew wrote:
- I figured out how to do a gif!!!
Yeah, I'm the dumbest person to ever graduate college and law school if I can't figure out how to do a gif. But in my defense, telephones and computers weren't commonplace when I was a kid. You had to dial with a big ass phone and if you fucked up, you had to start dialing again.
Wonder Woman had it going on. Damn I'm old. | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Marquez Brothers, Robert Guerrero, Abner Mares, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez, Devon Alexander, Jose Benavidez Jr and Nick Diaz Posts : 588 Join date : 2010-05-21 Age : 35 Location : Gilroy, CA
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| - captainanddew wrote:
- I figured out how to do a gif!!!
Yeah, I'm the dumbest person to ever graduate college and law school if I can't figure out how to do a gif. But in my defense, telephones and computers weren't commonplace when I was a kid. You had to dial with a big ass phone and if you fucked up, you had to start dialing again.
hahahahaha great Gif. I didnt know how to create them until a few weeks ago, so dont feel too bad. Were just kind of new to this, we were cavemen at ESPN. | |
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powerpuncher Green Belt
Posts : 635 Join date : 2010-05-14
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:48 pm | |
| i dont mind dirrell. this whole injury thing is a little suspicious though just because it didnt come out until not that long ago which was after the whole thing with the ward fight not happening. but i do believe that dirrell was actually hurt and not faking the abraham thing.
i dont mind if people dont like dirrell but one of my pet peeves is how now people are saying that he didnt even deserve to be in the super 6 tourney. he easily beat froch and froch got the decision because it was in england. it was easily top couple worst decisions ive ever seen. then he was beating abe almost every round and whether you believe it or not, i think that he would have survived. it was the 11th round and already well into it. if he made it out of the 11th, im sure that he would have survived the 12th. there may have been a KD but im sure that he would have survived. he is a good fighter still but i can see why everyone is suspicious of his condition. | |
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:57 pm | |
| Floyd's pretty easily the most disliked fighter in the sport. He has more people who dislike him in Dirrell's home state than Dirrell has people in the world who know who he is. It's everything that's been said. Dirrell is easy to dislike. He fights scared and acts like a punk. He has all the physical tools, but seems to be lacking most of the mental ones and heart. Usually guys are given the benefit of the doubt, but the way Dirrell has acted his whole career (read: very soft) he lost that benefit. Let's look at his career: - Olympian who won a medal (great start).
- Won typical prospect fights (stayed undefeated and gained buzz).
- Looked bad against big punchers, but showed he had all the physical tools and was a great front runner in his step up fights (not bad).
- Entered the Super 6 (undeserved but acceptable).
- Fought scared against Froch (might've deserved a decision, but lost respect of everyone)
- Fought well against Abe, but gassed at the end (good fight, but left enough skepticism about whether he was hurt or took the easy way out).
- Came up with a last minute injury after not being able to make a fight with Ward (increased doubt. Even if the injury is legit, why did he spend months negotiating?)
The KO from Abe was legit, and his resulting head injury might be. Time will tell, because depending on when and who he fights the rest of his career, it will help answer those questions. But looking at his whole career, he hasn't shown much. Every positive thing he has done in his career has a turd lining. The closest he has come to showing heart is that he didn't run from Abe, he stood and boxed. He set the bar so low that people were impressed that he attempted to engage Abe. It's to the point where people have to praise him for doing things almost every other fighter does normally (read: fights or boxes). He's done nothing to shake his soft rep. And if you're soft, don't expect boxing fans to have sympathy. |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:14 pm | |
| If Dirrell would have fought with guts, he may have won gold. Golovkin beat him by a few points. Dirrell has the tools, but he doesnt fight with heart and doesnt ever takes risks.
I agree he beat Froch and Abraham convincingly, even though I thought he faked being hurt off that shot when he was on the floor. Too many fighters do that and rarely are they really injured. Direll had a delayed reaction and he didnt have any known injuries from his trip to the hospital (not even a concussion). | |
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Groundhog_Day Orange Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Manny Pacquiao Posts : 354 Join date : 2010-05-21
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:15 pm | |
| Abraham was coming on but there are way too many people out there (not saying guys are like that) that automatically assume that Abraham would catch up to him and stop him.
I thought Dirrell might have deserved to edge Froch but it was such as foul filled fight from both fighters. To tell you the truth, half of the people in the tournament are well versed in dirty tricks.
Ward: Headbutts Dirrell: Holding, bending below the waist Froch: Rabbit punches, holding and hitting Abraham: Elbows, rabbit punches, DQ'd vs Dirrell
Kinda interesting when I think about it.
Vs. Froch, Dirrell looked like crap until the final 3 rounds or so. | |
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Groundhog_Day Orange Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Manny Pacquiao Posts : 354 Join date : 2010-05-21
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:19 pm | |
| The most currently disliked fighters are Floyd (obvious reasons, many of which are his own fault.. though the guy wants to be disliked right? to pay the bills!), Margarito (for attempting to load up), Haye (talking like he was a king yet "bishing out" multiple times), Cintron (for showing lack of heart on multiple occasions).
Pacboy gets a lot of hate on youtube and other forums but he's pretty well liked here. | |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:21 pm | |
| Woodchuck I agree, Dirrell's slipping on the canvas when his opponents get inside is a huge foul IMO. Shit he slipped so many times in his last two fights it get frustrating to watch. He obviously does it because he doesnt want to get hit. He wants to get in the outside and just run and slap. I kind of dont blame Abe for that punch, it was totally accidental by his part. It was bound to happen because Dirrell kept slippin on purpose. I would be glad if a Ref finally counted a KD against him if he does that shit in future fights. | |
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UBeeg9cats Orange Belt
Posts : 256 Join date : 2010-07-22 Age : 39
| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:29 pm | |
| IMO Berto is the most hated. I think Mundine needs to be hated more. | |
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Groundhog_Day Orange Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:36 pm | |
| - Diego408 wrote:
- Woodchuck I agree, Dirrell's slipping on the canvas when his opponents get inside is a huge foul IMO. Shit he slipped so many times in his last two fights it get frustrating to watch. He obviously does it because he doesnt want to get hit. He wants to get in the outside and just run and slap. I kind of dont blame Abe for that punch, it was totally accidental by his part. It was bound to happen because Dirrell kept slippin on purpose. I would be glad if a Ref finally counted a KD against him if he does that shit in future fights.
It's frustrating when people talk as if only Froch did stupid shit during that fight. Dirrell "lost his balance" at every given opportunity. The Abraham fight was a damn good performance by him though. Pity it had to end like that. | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:37 pm | |
| Not as long as Mr. Ronald Wright is active. | |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:01 am | |
| i realy didnt know dittrel was that hated..floyd i think is the most hated guy in boxing perhaps one of the top 3 or 4 of all time..ditrell was hurt with the AA punch when he was down..he was winning big time and needed noo out.injury for the ward fight..i now believe its BS..noo drs reports have surfaced nor any reports of a quality second opinion has surfaced..he backed out..thats my thoughts untill proven medicaly by 2 drs otherwise which will not happen. | |
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Groundhog_Day Orange Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:41 am | |
| See I was really pissed with Dirrell in the Froch fight and had little sympathy for him when the decision went against him. However, I gave him the benefit of the doubt in the AA fight, even though I was hoping Abraham would put him out (within the rules of course). He silenced some of my criticisms by not running around like a rabbit in the AA fight.
However, this new shit with the rumors of him not wanting to make a fight with Ward pisses me off if it's true. I mean Mares and Perez lived in the same damn house and had no issue going to battle.
Still, we don't know much of what's going on behind the scenes here, and probably never will. I just want know a bit more before I'm ready to throw the book at him an I'd label him a ducker or something.. | |
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:54 pm | |
| - Groundhog_Day wrote:
- However, this new shit with the rumors of him not wanting to make a fight with Ward pisses me off if it's true. I mean Mares and Perez lived in the same damn house and had no issue going to battle.
Still, we don't know much of what's going on behind the scenes here, and probably never will. I just want know a bit more before I'm ready to throw the book at him an I'd label him a ducker or something.. We actually will know. His camp is claiming that he's not fit to fight because his head is messed up. So if he never fights again or comes back and fights top guys (especially Ward), chances are the injury was legit. If he comes back soon or never steps up in competition, chances are he's a ducker. |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:48 am | |
| - Gumby wrote:
- Groundhog_Day wrote:
- However, this new shit with the rumors of him not wanting to make a fight with Ward pisses me off if it's true. I mean Mares and Perez lived in the same damn house and had no issue going to battle.
Still, we don't know much of what's going on behind the scenes here, and probably never will. I just want know a bit more before I'm ready to throw the book at him an I'd label him a ducker or something.. We actually will know. His camp is claiming that he's not fit to fight because his head is messed up. So if he never fights again or comes back and fights top guys (especially Ward), chances are the injury was legit. If he comes back soon or never steps up in competition, chances are he's a ducker. I think hes going to sit out the year and let Haymon run his ass to HBO in 2011. Im positive of that, i wont be surprised if he gets a date with Bute on HBO sometime next year. Al Haymon will get this guy on HBO, I really think he pulled out of the tourney because the risk isnt worth the reward on showtime, HBO is the only one that pays a higher reward for just about any fight (step up or mismatches, it doesnt matter) | |
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gomez1012 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:13 pm | |
| Dirrell or Cintron | |
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:40 am | |
| I can't stand him, Dirrell was a disgrace in Nottingham, I also heard he stunk out the joint against Stevens. |
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dbudge87 Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:27 pm | |
| i agree, against Froch he was pathetic. lets just see how long till he fights again | |
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Ring Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: is Dirrell The most dislike fighter in the sport? Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:35 pm | |
| All i've got to say is Dirrell is a fucking drama queen. | |
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