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PostSubject: Re: How do you see Brock vs Cain going?   How do you see Brock vs Cain going? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 14, 2010 12:52 am

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
Did Cain buy this magic gas tank that everyone is talking about? I don't get why everyone is talking about it? My guess is that it has been laid out to the MMA community because that makes him look like he has a chance. I don't buy it when a 280lbs mutant viking is having his way with you. Cain better repeat his fight with Nog if he wants a win.

I agree. Cain has gone the distance once in his career and that was a year ago when he couldn't even finish Kongo.
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Cain does have excellent cardio, what's been blown out of proportion is that he has a huge advantage there over Brock, Brock has excellent cardio himself.
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Cain does have excellent cardio, what's been blown out of proportion is that he has a huge advantage there over Brock, Brock has excellent cardio himself.

How do you know this? My thoughts are the cardio thing has been laid out by the UFC. His team is gonna say that just like Brocks team says it. I don't buy the hype and matter of fact I am sick of hearing about it. If he wears Brock down and beats him in 4-5 rounds we can all start saying it, but he has never proved that he is a cardio machine.
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He's showed it in the cage whether unchalenged or not, it's been one of his main things even since college.
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Speaking of Cain where is his fan ?
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He's only went 15mins once!!!
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The difference is Cain can go 15 minutes with a relentless pace, Brock's pace isn't as taxing on his tank.
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He's only gone that long because his opponents can't handle him.
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Brock is going to ass rape him in the 2nd round. He will hold him down, grease him up and pump him full of White Pride!

Honestly though, he is going to relentlessly beat the shit out of him and send the little racist back to where he came from and I don't think there is anything Cain can do about it.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you see Brock vs Cain going?   How do you see Brock vs Cain going? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 14, 2010 8:55 am

I see this as a total toss up fight. While on one hand, I can see Brock touching Cain's chin and then getting the takedown, followed by gnp, I can also see Cain moving a lot on his feet and unleashing brutal leg kicks on Brock (who has never really had his legs kicked in competition), followed by superior hand speed and an eventual tko. The thing about Cain's wrestling, is that it is geared and always has been, to go against guys much larger then him as he was always a small heavyweight in college. If Brock takes him down without hurting him first, dont be suprised to see Cain pop back up to his feet and make Lesnar work for the takedown again. A part of me wants to see Cain win because he is so much more of a complete fighter, but it remains to be seen whether he can be this effective against a guy with Lesnar's size and speed. I expect a lot of leg kicks out of Cain (the guy throws kicks like he's been doing it his whole life).
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PostSubject: Re: How do you see Brock vs Cain going?   How do you see Brock vs Cain going? - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 14, 2010 10:38 am

On Cain's stamina. Watch the Kongo fight, dude is non-stop for all 15. There is no breather, there is only fwd, constantly working, constantly landing shots. And this is a pace that Cain sets in all his fights. The fights that went into the 2nd, he did not show any slow down. The one time it went the distance he did not show any slow down.

Im skeptical as to how that plays out against a much bigger man like Brock, especially over 5 rnds. But I think it's been proven pretty well, that Cain has a good tank.
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Jimbo has a great point about the leg kicks. That could be Cains plan. Take Lesnars legs out!

Kongo fought at that pace for three rounds also. You have to think about that fight vs a fight with Brock. A fight with a guy like Brock is gonna get you tired alot quicker.
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Kongo weighs 238, Brock 275. Big difference that will test Cain's cardio.
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Power vs speed and the weight differential is all that makes up this fight. their cardio differential is neglible. Brock is either going to make a fantastic mistake and lose or beat the living shit out of Cain. I am voting for the latter.
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I expect either a fast Cain finish or a protracted beating that sucks the hype out of Lesnar forever. I'm dying for the latter.
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Damn, I keep going back and forth on this. Is Brock going to just be too big and strong and just wear him down ultimately GnPing him into submission, or is Cain going to be able to clip him and finish it (Something the much bigger striking Carwin couldn't do) or outlast him with better stamina?... I kind of want to see Brock laying on his back looking like Liddell of late (A Mir sub wasn't very satisfying), but I'm just having a hard time believing anyone outside of Fedor, Carwin or JDS can deliver that... scratch
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LTFG, come on! Outside of a sub attempt, the only way I see Cain winning is via decision. He has speed, cardio and skill. But he is not a power fighter, unless he is whacking worn out greats or less. No this is either going to be a long fight or a very short one. The longer it goes though, the better chance I think he has.
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LTFG, come on! Outside of a sub attempt, the only way I see Cain winning is via decision. He has speed, cardio and skill. But he is not a power fighter, unless he is whacking worn out greats or less. No this is either going to be a long fight or a very short one. The longer it goes though, the better chance I think he has.


That cardio myth is gonna be a huge factor if the fight goes on. Cain has never been in a fight with a wrestler like Brock. The size, power, and speed are gonna put Cain to the test.
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LTFG, come on! Outside of a sub attempt, the only way I see Cain winning is via decision. He has speed, cardio and skill. But he is not a power fighter, unless he is whacking worn out greats or less. No this is either going to be a long fight or a very short one. The longer it goes though, the better chance I think he has.

Five first round knockouts, two second round knockouts, and one decision. Ya no chance to finish Lesnar.


What is the matter with you people?
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Only nine days to go till we find out!
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Cain wrestled them his whole time in college. You guys make me lol.
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Wolf u better hope Cain wins or u will be taking a bunch of shit!
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Cain wrestled them his whole time in college. You guys make me lol.

I don't know if that really means much. He may or may not get tired but we see wrestlers gas out all the time in MMA fights and I'm sure they could've gone a shitload of rounds in college with their cardio. You have to to be able to wrestle at that level
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Wolf u better hope Cain wins or u will be taking a bunch of shit!


I will create a new account after I take a two month break from here when Brock finally loses because of Wolf. You will not see a post from this name ever, AND THE BEAST MEANS EVER!
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Jimbo has a great point about the leg kicks. That could be Cains plan. Take Lesnars legs out!

Kongo fought at that pace for three rounds also. You have to think about that fight vs a fight with Brock. A fight with a guy like Brock is gonna get you tired alot quicker.

Maybe Barry is showing Brock some techniques on timing and catching those leg kicks
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