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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 11:46 am

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The only reason UFC fighters don't lose outside the UFC is because the UFC stopped letting them fight outside the UFC.

I know that Wolf. My point was Lil Nog padded up his record against trash while Couture and Franklin were fighting the best. Couture and Franklin beat all the guys Lil Nog did in his streak.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 11:52 am

Dewees has fought in the UFC a bunch and is 37-13, Rimbon is 27-9 with fights with top guys through out his career, Staring is like 22-7, so I don't know how you not knowing the sport means Little Nog is a bum.

Bader barely won that and is also top ten anywhere.


Freak, it's time to either change the opinion or say "ya well whatever no matter what you say I'm sold that Nog bros suck" and just walk away.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 11:54 am

Padding his record? Those were all experienced vets with a hand full of losses and a bucket full of wins. Not only that he also boxed to a medal in the Pan American games after his Pride stint.

Fact is, Vlad and Luiz Cane are good wins. You can try to retcon all you want. Nog has good boxing, MT, BJJ and wrestling. Stop this sillyness.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 12:26 pm

Losing to Soko was what dropped him from the top 10, barely, it took him a little loger to reclaim his spot there but he deservingly did so none the less.

I got Bones via stoppage.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 12:54 pm

I don't hate the Nog brothers at all. I'm a big fan of Big Nog. Lil Nog is overated though and people keep thinking he's the same fighter that fought in Pride when he's not that good anymore. He lost to Bader and got a lucky decision against Brilz. He'll never beat a top 10 fighter again.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 1:04 pm

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Whatever, I have an opinion, it doesnt make sense, the facts refute it, but I'll hang onto it anyway, cause thats how I roll.

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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 1:10 pm

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Whatever, I have an opinion, it doesnt make sense, the facts refute it, but I'll hang onto it anyway, cause thats how I roll.

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Lol, what facts? That he beat bums or an overated Luiz Cane?
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That seems to be fact to you alone.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 1:32 pm

In his 7 fight win streak he beat 4 guys not even in the top 30 light-heavyweights. He beat 2 ranked between 15-25 and had a lucky decision against a guy not in the top 20. Yeah great streak and those are facts.
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Your not right, it's a fact because I said it.
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Your not right, it's a fact because I said it.

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Jon Jones is not looking forward to this at all.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/4/1729867/jon-jones-not-excited-about-ufc-127-bout-with-ryan-bader

"I'm actually really sick of fighting this type of style. Matt Hamill, Matyushenko, Jake O'Brien... they all have that similar kind of style. Their main focus is that double leg dive and [they have] sub-par boxing.

"I'm ready to fight some strikers, I'm ready to fight some south paws, I'm ready to really mix it up."

"I'm trying to secure a respect level with my wrestling. I'm sure Ryan Bader, the advantage he'll have going in is to be the better wrestler and I'm going to try and prove the UFC wrong again."
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 2:08 pm

I like the attitude but it should be secondary to fighting the next guy put in front of you.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 2:13 pm

I agree with Jones. Put him in with a name like Griffin or Franklin with Bader fighting the other 1. That way if both win the UFC still has 2 young contenders instead of ruining Bader after Jones destroys him.
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PostSubject: Re: Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February   Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 2:18 pm

Bader doesn't get ruined at all, he just loses his first fight, he'll be around and contending for a while.

Bones would destroy Forrest and he's said he wants nothing to do with Bones, Franklin would be ok but I'd be picking Bones, he beats Bader he's more than likely getting a Title shot down the line aganst Shogun anyways, there's the kind of fight he's loooking for.
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Jones beats Bader easy. It could ruin Bader's confidence.
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I think Jones finishes Bader late but I would love it if Bones got put to sleep
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Bader would be fine

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I think Jones finishes Bader late but I would love it if Bones got put to sleep

Why?
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I'll take Jon Jones via finish and give whoever any other result.
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The more respectful the fighter the less B seems to like em recently
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I think Jones finishes Bader late but I would love it if Bones got put to sleep

Frankly I am getting quite sick of the Bones hype myself.

Bader's wrestling skills should be able to keep this standing long enough to test Bones chin.
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The more respectful the fighter the less B seems to like em recently

Underneath all the hype and compliments of how humble and great he is, there is an obvious smug arrogance to Bones. But that has little to do with it. Ever since I've been a fight fan I've always been fascinated to see huge, runaway hype trains go careening off the rails. Not that a KO loss would slow down his career really, but those moments always make for fascinating nights
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AKA omg ryan bader
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