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PostSubject: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 3:11 pm

Panther gave me an idea. I wonder who has retired the most all time great fighters? Anyone have a clue?
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 3:23 pm

If I had to guess the answer is probably nobody. What I mean is how many ATG's are near retirement in 2-3 adjoining divisions in any decade-long period?

In an awful lot of cases what finally convinces a past it ATG to retire is not getting beaten by a good fighter, but instead getting beaten by a nobody.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 3:47 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
If I had to guess the answer is probably nobody. What I mean is how many ATG's are near retirement in 2-3 adjoining divisions in any decade-long period?

In an awful lot of cases what finally convinces a past it ATG to retire is not getting beaten by a good fighter, but instead getting beaten by a nobody.
Well if MAB and Morales had stayed retired you could say Pac has done it to 3 people right? I just dont know my boxing history well enough to come up with some of the older names.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 3:50 pm

soonermark890 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
If I had to guess the answer is probably nobody. What I mean is how many ATG's are near retirement in 2-3 adjoining divisions in any decade-long period?

In an awful lot of cases what finally convinces a past it ATG to retire is not getting beaten by a good fighter, but instead getting beaten by a nobody.
Well if MAB and Morales had stayed retired you could say Pac has done it to 3 people right? I just dont know my boxing history well enough to come up with some of the older names.

That's kinda my point. Great fighters don't STAY retired because another great beat them. They retire when they lose to someone they are embarassed to even have fought.

If there's a guy who even retired two ATG's I don't know who it is.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 3:54 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
soonermark890 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
If I had to guess the answer is probably nobody. What I mean is how many ATG's are near retirement in 2-3 adjoining divisions in any decade-long period?

In an awful lot of cases what finally convinces a past it ATG to retire is not getting beaten by a good fighter, but instead getting beaten by a nobody.
Well if MAB and Morales had stayed retired you could say Pac has done it to 3 people right? I just dont know my boxing history well enough to come up with some of the older names.

That's kinda my point. Great fighters don't STAY retired because another great beat them. They retire when they lose to someone they are embarassed to even have fought.

If there's a guy who even retired two ATG's I don't know who it is.
Oh yeah Marble. I checked with all our history teachers and they all had read Rifles with Watie but none have read the other book about him. Sorry I couldnt be more help with that.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 4:06 pm

Sooner, I don't think ATGs would retire right after losing to a big name, though you ask an excellent question. How about, how many fighters ended (For all practical purposes) the careers of ATG,s? Now I can think of a few of those.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 4:54 pm

Hector Camacho Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 5:00 pm

Groundhog_Day wrote:
Hector Camacho Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 5:02 pm

soonermark890 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
soonermark890 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
If I had to guess the answer is probably nobody. What I mean is how many ATG's are near retirement in 2-3 adjoining divisions in any decade-long period?

In an awful lot of cases what finally convinces a past it ATG to retire is not getting beaten by a good fighter, but instead getting beaten by a nobody.
Well if MAB and Morales had stayed retired you could say Pac has done it to 3 people right? I just dont know my boxing history well enough to come up with some of the older names.

That's kinda my point. Great fighters don't STAY retired because another great beat them. They retire when they lose to someone they are embarassed to even have fought.

If there's a guy who even retired two ATG's I don't know who it is.
Oh yeah Marble. I checked with all our history teachers and they all had read Rifles with Watie but none have read the other book about him. Sorry I couldnt be more help with that.

No sweat, I appreciate the follow up!
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 5:51 pm

marble marciano retired 2 all time greats.louis and walcott.armstrong retired ross maybe he did another great possibly.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 6:39 pm

Robinson retired Henry Armstrong who else?

Joe Louis retired Sharkey, basically retired Schmelling, and didnt he retire Conn in the rematch?
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 6:45 pm

bird.conn and schmeling had fights after louis and i dont feel sharkey was a all time great or a great fighter.
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PostSubject: Re: What fighter has retired the most ATG's?   What fighter has retired the most ATG's? EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 6:57 pm

good points dmar ya Schmelling had 2 fights i bleieve but was never the same

Sharkey is in HOF I believe but your right not ATG
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