Alfredo Angulo immigration issues = end of US career?

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=31158

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By Michael Marley

Who let the dog out?

That's not the question when it comes to the shattered professional boxing career of crowdpleaser Alfredo "Perro" Angulo.

The only remaining question is when ICE, the Immmigration and Customs Enforcement agency of the federal government, will remove the 19-1, 16 KOs slugger out of the United States and send him back to his native country of Mexico.

I learned through several sources, including Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, that HBO's legal department has advised Angulo promoter Gary Shaw that because the action fighter is in America illegally the prime cable network will not use him on its airwaves.

"Nobody is going to touch this guy," Arum told me. "Nobody is interested now because of the huge legal problem. He picked the wrong time to be an illegal immigrant in our country, that's for sure."

Other sources tell me that the news that Angulo first entered the U.S. illegally, was later deported back to Mexico, and then snuck back in at least a second time - blindsided both Shaw, who has spent time and money over about four years building his burgeoning career, and manager Mike Criscio.

Criscio and Shaw contacted boxing's premier immigration lawyer, Los Angeles-based Frank Ronzio, to see what could be to alter or adjust Angulo's status.

There was no good news forthcoming on that front from either side of the border.

Certainly, no American politician is going to bat for an illegal, even an athletic celebrity like Angulo, and especially not in the current heated climate in which both the Democratic and Republican parties are battling over what to do about the tide of illegals in a trying economic period.

"Angulo never told anybody about it," a source familiar with the situation said Tuesday. "He was at ringside at the Sergio Mora-Shane Mosley fight in L.A.. acting like he doesn't have a care in the world. He is as brazen outside the ring as he is in it when that opening bell rings."

Attempts to reach Shaw and Criscio were unsuccessful.

Angulo. who was born in border city Mexicali, had a significant amateur career. He represented Mexico in the 2004 Olympics but dropped a 38-23 decision to Ireland's Andy Lee. He also won a bronze medal in the 2003 Pan American Games.

His lone pro defeat came at the hands of rugged Kermit Cintron, by unanimous decision over 12 rounds in a WBC super welterweight elimination bout in Hollywood, Florida, on May 3, 2009.

I asked informed sources whether HBO or Showtime would screen an Angulo bout or bouts out of Mexico.

"I don't think so," one veteran boxing man said. "It's different than when Showtime televised Edwin Valero in a fight from Mexico. Valero was barred from entry because of a DWI case in Las Vegas. I don't think he had been deported and then brazenly snuck back into the U.S."

In his two most recent bouts, Angulo (who wears a dog collar around his neck to sumbolize his ferociousness) defeated the once highly touted Joel Julio and then blasted out Joachim Alcine in one round on July 17 in California.

It looks like that fight will be Angulo's last in America.

This immigration fight, given his past illegal conduct, is one he cannot possibly win.

Daaaayum

Well he'll be a star in Mexico for sure, every boxing match over there is nationally televised on network TV

Nothing close to the type of $ he would make fighting on HBO

Still dont get why a network wouldnt go to Mexico to showcase his fights?

Guy belongs in jail.

How could nobody on his team have asked the question and at least gotten him a work-visa? I mean the 154 division needs all the help it can get!

How could the guy have gone back and forth for training and fights? Or has he stayed here since he arrived?

Really bad news for boxing.

gomez1012 wrote:

Still dont get why a network wouldnt go to Mexico to showcase his fights?

NOBODY is harder on illegal immigration that me. But if he's in Mexico, why do I care? Happy to watch the guy.

Perhaps he can get a green card, let's hope so, Perro is one of my favorite fighters.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

NOBODY is harder on illegal immigration that me. But if he's in Mexico, why do I care? Happy to watch the guy.

Thats what Im saying, if HBO says they're done with him, why wouldnt Showtime or even ESPN start broadcasting his exciting fights?

From the piece

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I asked informed sources whether HBO or Showtime would screen an Angulo bout or bouts out of Mexico.

"I don't think so," one veteran boxing man said. "It's different than when Showtime televised Edwin Valero in a fight from Mexico. Valero was barred from entry because of a DWI case in Las Vegas. I don't think he had been deported and then brazenly snuck back into the U.S."

Just dont get how this ^ makes any difference

gomez1012 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

NOBODY is harder on illegal immigration that me. But if he's in Mexico, why do I care? Happy to watch the guy.

Thats what Im saying, if HBO says they're done with him, why wouldnt Showtime or even ESPN start broadcasting his exciting fights?

From the piece

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I asked informed sources whether HBO or Showtime would screen an Angulo bout or bouts out of Mexico.

"I don't think so," one veteran boxing man said. "It's different than when Showtime televised Edwin Valero in a fight from Mexico. Valero was barred from entry because of a DWI case in Las Vegas. I don't think he had been deported and then brazenly snuck back into the U.S."

Just dont get how this ^ makes any difference

I think in this political environment the networks are probably thinking that the boxing fanbase is probably more conservative than the average netwrok viewer and there is no percentage in ticking them off. I mean so they cut Angulo loose and pick up Saul Alvarez. What do they care? Fighters are just meat to them.

But I'm guessing. Hardcore probably could get us some insight.

Good points

Considering their investment in him already, you'd think they still want a piece even if he was fighting in Antarctica

gomez1012 wrote:

Good points

Considering their investment in him already, you'd think they still want a piece even if he was fighting in Antarctica

I'm not really sure even I believe the case I just made. I mean like I said, I'm a lunatic on the illegal issue and if he goes back to Mexico before we catch him and fights on TV? Even I'll watch. The question might be is does HBO/SHO want to go to Mexico to broadcast and can they get good fighters to go there?

I mean the country is just a mess at the moment.

i cant see why they cant show his fights from mexico nor why some top fighters cant to go to mexico to fight him..how this wasnt addressed before is unbelievable..especialy by the folks who deported him and hes on national tv...soo now hbo is attemtpting to show a moralistic -righteous point of view..lol last month they offered the guy 750 000 to fight martinez..look the guy deserves to be deported again and then work threw the legal system..for hb o etc to say see you later.please.get off your high horse hbo...hes a fighter that gives a good show..

dmar5143 wrote:

i cant see why they cant show his fights from mexico nor why some top fighters cant to go to mexico to fight him..how this wasnt addressed before is unbelievable..especialy by the folks who deported him and hes on national tv...soo now hbo is attemtpting to show a moralistic -righteous point of view..lol last month they offered the guy 750 000 to fight martinez..look the guy deserves to be deported again and then work threw the legal system..for hb o etc to say see you later.please.get off your high horse hbo...hes a fighter that gives a good show..

yeah maybe I'm full of it on that issue. Margarito would obviously fight there and Cintron is based out of Houston and Mora is out of LA so they probably could pay fighters to go there.

Maskaev vs Peter was in Cancun as a main event w/Juan Diaz-Campbell on the under card lol

Morales drew 50k for his fight w/Limond!

And all fights in Mexico are on national TV, Angulo would only become a bigger star making his career there

gomez1012 wrote:

Maskaev vs Peter was in Cancun as a main event w/Juan Diaz-Campbell on the under card lol

Morales drew 50k for his fight w/Limond!

And all fights in Mexico are on national TV, Angulo would only become a bigger star making his career there

Yeah, ok, I'm persuaded. HBO etc are full of it on this.

En Vivo de Mexico!!!!!! Alfredo "Perro" Angulo...(HardcoreBEE24 selfishly grins at the prospect of Angulo being on Boxeo Telemundo)

If I were Angulo I would invest some money or get investors and have my own PPVs out of Mexico for bargain rates and make money that way. Does he have to forfeit the earning he's made in the US up to now? He was here illegally I can't see how he was properly paying taxes and such.

Does Angulo even speak English ?

Ali_1748 wrote:

Does Angulo even speak English ?

What does that have to do with anything?

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Does Angulo even speak English ?

What does that have to do with anything?

I am just curious.

Ali_1748 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Does Angulo even speak English ?

What does that have to do with anything?

I am just curious.

He's fluent in canine. So no.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

En Vivo de Mexico!!!!!! Alfredo "Perro" Angulo...(HardcoreBEE24 selfishly grins at the prospect of Angulo being on Boxeo Telemundo)

If I were Angulo I would invest some money or get investors and have my own PPVs out of Mexico for bargain rates and make money that way. Does he have to forfeit the earning he's made in the US up to now? He was here illegally I can't see how he was properly paying taxes and such.

He was getting paid under the table lol

Talk about being a shitty promoter though? You dont even know if your fighter is here legally!

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Does Angulo even speak English ?

What does that have to do with anything?

I am just curious.

He's fluent in canine. So no.

gomez1012 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

En Vivo de Mexico!!!!!! Alfredo "Perro" Angulo...(HardcoreBEE24 selfishly grins at the prospect of Angulo being on Boxeo Telemundo)

If I were Angulo I would invest some money or get investors and have my own PPVs out of Mexico for bargain rates and make money that way. Does he have to forfeit the earning he's made in the US up to now? He was here illegally I can't see how he was properly paying taxes and such.

He was getting paid under the table lol

Talk about being a shitty promoter though? You dont even know if your fighter is here legally!

That's what I mean. Were they paying him cash? WTF. Is his name even Alfredo Angulo?

gomez1012 wrote:

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=31158

Quote :

By Michael Marley

Who let the dog out?

That's not the question when it comes to the shattered professional boxing career of crowdpleaser Alfredo "Perro" Angulo.

The only remaining question is when ICE, the Immmigration and Customs Enforcement agency of the federal government, will remove the 19-1, 16 KOs slugger out of the United States and send him back to his native country of Mexico.

I learned through several sources, including Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, that HBO's legal department has advised Angulo promoter Gary Shaw that because the action fighter is in America illegally the prime cable network will not use him on its airwaves.

"Nobody is going to touch this guy," Arum told me. "Nobody is interested now because of the huge legal problem. He picked the wrong time to be an illegal immigrant in our country, that's for sure."

Other sources tell me that the news that Angulo first entered the U.S. illegally, was later deported back to Mexico, and then snuck back in at least a second time - blindsided both Shaw, who has spent time and money over about four years building his burgeoning career, and manager Mike Criscio.

Criscio and Shaw contacted boxing's premier immigration lawyer, Los Angeles-based Frank Ronzio, to see what could be to alter or adjust Angulo's status.

There was no good news forthcoming on that front from either side of the border.

Certainly, no American politician is going to bat for an illegal, even an athletic celebrity like Angulo, and especially not in the current heated climate in which both the Democratic and Republican parties are battling over what to do about the tide of illegals in a trying economic period.

"Angulo never told anybody about it," a source familiar with the situation said Tuesday. "He was at ringside at the Sergio Mora-Shane Mosley fight in L.A.. acting like he doesn't have a care in the world. He is as brazen outside the ring as he is in it when that opening bell rings."

Attempts to reach Shaw and Criscio were unsuccessful.

Angulo. who was born in border city Mexicali, had a significant amateur career. He represented Mexico in the 2004 Olympics but dropped a 38-23 decision to Ireland's Andy Lee. He also won a bronze medal in the 2003 Pan American Games.

His lone pro defeat came at the hands of rugged Kermit Cintron, by unanimous decision over 12 rounds in a WBC super welterweight elimination bout in Hollywood, Florida, on May 3, 2009.

I asked informed sources whether HBO or Showtime would screen an Angulo bout or bouts out of Mexico.

"I don't think so," one veteran boxing man said. "It's different than when Showtime televised Edwin Valero in a fight from Mexico. Valero was barred from entry because of a DWI case in Las Vegas. I don't think he had been deported and then brazenly snuck back into the U.S."

In his two most recent bouts, Angulo (who wears a dog collar around his neck to sumbolize his ferociousness) defeated the once highly touted Joel Julio and then blasted out Joachim Alcine in one round on July 17 in California.

It looks like that fight will be Angulo's last in America.

This immigration fight, given his past illegal conduct, is one he cannot possibly win.

Daaaayum

Well he'll be a star in Mexico for sure, every boxing match over there is nationally televised on network TV

Nothing close to the type of $ he would make fighting on HBO

I have two things to say:

#1......Good. Angulo knew his illegal status but did nothing to rectify it, despite him getting a higher profile as his career took off.

#2.....Gary Shaw is a braindead fucking moron.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

That's what I mean. Were they paying him cash? WTF. Is his name even Alfredo Angulo?

Hahaha

Idk...just dumb on HBO, Shaw, his manager, anybody involved lol

gomez1012 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

That's what I mean. Were they paying him cash? WTF. Is his name even Alfredo Angulo?

Hahaha

Idk...just dumb on HBO, Shaw, his manager, anybody involved lol

This is crazy. Maybe thats why he never smiles. He always knew this would eventually catch up to him.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

This is crazy. Maybe thats why he never smiles. He always knew this would eventually catch up to him.

Every dog has its day