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| Subject: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:56 pm | |
| Veteran scribe Dave Anderson of The Mirror was advised by Amir Khan's camp that Marcos Maidana has not yet agreed to the financial terms of their proposed junior welterweight contest for December 11, confirming our earlier report. Khan's camp is sending a message that Maidana is requesting too much money for the fight. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told BoxingScene.com last week that Maidana is not going to take "short money" for a clash with Khan. It's expected that a deal will be reached. In the event the negotiations fall apart, Victor Ortiz has been named as a secondary option for Khan's next defense of the WBA title. To keep his name in the running, Ortiz will have to beat former champion Vivian Harris on September 18 at Staples Center. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=30724Maidana is bitch, been crying for ages to fight Khan now he's got the opportunity and he's trying to demand more money. A real fighter would jump at the chance to face Khan. |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:03 pm | |
| Khan starts mouthing off about his opponents "pricing themselves out" before negotiations even begin.
Sounds to me like Khan has the excuse on standby to get out of fights he doesn't want. Khan wants Maidana to take the same size purse he would for a much smaller fight. Let's hear the numbers rather than just taking Khan's word for it.
At least Wlad and Vitali give million dollar purses to their opponents who would usually make one or two hundred grand.
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:05 pm | |
| Who is Maidana to make financial demands ? since when has he been a big enough draw to demand a bigger slice of the pie.
Maidana is nothing more than a caveman who's trying to cash in. |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:05 pm | |
| They should just let it go to manditory purse bid and go with the prescribed split. | |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Who is Maidana to make financial demands ? since when has he been a big enough draw to demand a bigger slice of the pie.
Maidana is nothing more than a caveman who's trying to cash in. | |
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kbyte Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| I'd actually rather see Khan vs Ortiz so either way I'm getting a fight that I wanna see. | |
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kbyte Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:09 pm | |
| I think you're jumping to conclusions a little too quickly with Maidana. All we know is that he wants more money. They're still negotiating and we don't know what the split is right now. | |
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gomez1012 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:10 pm | |
| +1 Canvas
I agree with Chino, let Maidana and GBP negotiate, Khan isnt the PROMOTER here
STFU, go prepare for whatever fight is next, and let YOUR promoter handle its business | |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:31 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Who is Maidana to make financial demands ? since when has he been a big enough draw to demand a bigger slice of the pie.
Maidana is nothing more than a caveman who's trying to cash in. kind of like Haye with the Klitschos. | |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:42 pm | |
| Typical, Maidana is offered a shot at a fight he's been demanding for and instead of signing in heartbeat he demands more money, and surprise surprise who do the Americans side with, Maidana.
You didn't see Barrera or Malignaggi complaining about money. |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:45 pm | |
| - Canvas wrote:
- Ali_1748 wrote:
- Who is Maidana to make financial demands ? since when has he been a big enough draw to demand a bigger slice of the pie.
Maidana is nothing more than a caveman who's trying to cash in. kind of like Haye with the Klitschos. Horrible analogy Canvas. Khan is the sole draw here, he's the one with the fanbase and two tv networks backing him. Maidana is an Argentine with no fanbase or network behind him trying to call the shots. And for the record I never sided once with Haye and his ridiculous demands, I just disagreed with Wladimir asking for part of the British tv money. |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:45 pm | |
| aug 25, 2010: Khan: Marquez Pricing Himself Out, Maidana Could Be Next
"The next fight I think is now pushing toward Maidana. And the reason for that is that we just can't tie up the purse, and the money issues with Marquez because he's asking for too much money, and I think that without fighting me, he's not going to get a big pay day," said Khan.
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08-26-2010: Amir Khan: "I Will Shut Maidana's Mouth, Then Bradley"
"I think that Maidana would be a great fight for me. But the thing is with Maidana is that his team can't overprice the fight. I've had a few figures come in, and they're just way overpricing him. -------------------------------------------
Like I said, it is a manditory fight. Let it go to purse bid and go with the standard 75-25 split.
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:45 pm | |
| I wonder how much Maidana is asking? I think hes asking for a lot because he knows Khans gonna handed him his ass.
As i remember correctly, Maidana said he wanted more money for the Bradley fight and only wanted a big payday to take him on. Management and not getting enough money was the reason he ducked Bradley, not just because of his management porblems as claimed.
Ortiz is not a bad replacement in terms of opposition, but I dont think he stand a chance either. I liked pre-Maridana Ortiz, the one with Killer Instict and not putting on track shoes and getting pay days for boring desicions. | |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:47 pm | |
| It's not a mandatory fight at all, the WBA haven't ordered it. |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:48 pm | |
| - Diego408 wrote:
- I wonder how much Maidana is asking? I think hes asking for a lot because he knows Khans gonna handed him his ass.
As i remember correctly, Maidana said he wanted more money for the Bradley fight and only wanted a big payday to take him on. Management and not getting enough money was the reason he ducked Bradley, not just because of his management porblems as claimed.
Ortiz is not a bad replacement in terms of opposition, but I dont think he stand a chance either. I liked pre-Maridana Ortiz, the one with Killer Instict and not putting on track shoes and getting pay days for boring desicions. +1 |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:50 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Canvas wrote:
- Ali_1748 wrote:
- Who is Maidana to make financial demands ? since when has he been a big enough draw to demand a bigger slice of the pie.
Maidana is nothing more than a caveman who's trying to cash in. kind of like Haye with the Klitschos. Horrible analogy Canvas.
Khan is the sole draw here, he's the one with the fanbase and two tv networks backing him. Maidana is an Argentine with no fanbase or network behind him trying to call the shots.
And for the record I never sided once with Haye and his ridiculous demands, I just disagreed with Wladimir asking for part of the British tv money. I know Ali, I'm just winding you up for laughs. Sorry. I know Haye is a much bigger draw than Maidana, but Haye demanding 50-50 with Wlad and turning down fights is beyond ridiculous. Khan and Maidan should just do the standard 75-25 split. If either one of them has a problem with that then they are being unreasonable. No doubt Khan is the money man at 140 and holds all the leverage, but I get the sense that Khan wants everyone to fight for chump change and he keep %90 of the booty for himself. I may be wrong. Khan is a draw, but he's not Hatton or Vitali. | |
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gomez1012 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:50 pm | |
| Here's the thing with this
Khan has a $1.5 million minimum guarantee w/his agreement with GBP, his opponents will ALWAYS request more $ because of this
Especially when your promoted by the same people
You cant blame the fighters when promoters/networks overpay for shit
Like Canvas pointed out, Khan is hurting himself twittering this crap, keep your mouth shut with negotiations and let GBP do their thing
If the fight DOESNT happen, then put Maidana on blast | |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:54 pm | |
| Diego brought up a good point, Maidana had a Bradley fight in the bag but demanded more money.
And if we're to believe the mythical rumor that Khan's promoters/HBO paid Maidana to step aside then he's already been been paid probably a larger sum most fighters get for fighting.
The evidence is beginning to expose Maidana's greedy nature. |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:56 pm | |
| my computer is a POS. delete the duplicates please Ali | |
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gomez1012 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:58 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Diego brought up a good point, Maidana had a Bradley fight in the bag but demanded more money.
And if we're to believe the mythical rumor that Khan's promoters/HBO paid Maidana to step aside then he's already been been paid probably a larger sum most fighters get for fighting.
The evidence is beginning to expose Maidana's greedy nature. Again, thats GBP/HBO You cant put that on Maidana, its the promoter/network that already set the standard so high Same folks that promote Khan | |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:58 pm | |
| - Canvas wrote:
- my computer is a POS. delete the duplicates please Ali
My laptop is beginning to annoy me too, for some reason everyday now I have to go through the process where my laptop will work at a snails pace for about an hour or two before it runs at normal speed. |
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:00 pm | |
| - gomez1012 wrote:
- Ali_1748 wrote:
- Diego brought up a good point, Maidana had a Bradley fight in the bag but demanded more money.
And if we're to believe the mythical rumor that Khan's promoters/HBO paid Maidana to step aside then he's already been been paid probably a larger sum most fighters get for fighting.
The evidence is beginning to expose Maidana's greedy nature. Again, thats GBP/HBO
You cant put that on Maidana, its the promoter/network that already set the standard so high
Same folks that promote Khan
How can I not ? Maidana's been offered two fights against the the two top guys at Jr Welterweight and refused to sign. It's got nothing to do with HBO or Golden Boy. |
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Diego408 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| I think HBO is the cause pf the problem. Khan was paid 1.1 Million to fight a less dangerous fighter in Paulie. Now with Maidana hes probably granted a lot more. I heard it was 2 million HBO is offering for the fight to happen in the states. So Khan for sure is getting more than 1.1 of that money, but that 2 Mil is only if they fight here. Im pretty sure Maidana got a lot to fight Cayo.
Shit Guerrero got 700K for the Yordan fight and was probably paid about the same for Klassen and those arent even quality fights. | |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| let it go to a purse bid with a 65-35 in favor of kahn..its the same old song and dance.. | |
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Canvas Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Marcos Maidana demanding too much money for Khan fight, Victor Ortiz is the back up plan Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:02 pm | |
| Maidana is the manditory Ali, and Khan is coming off an optional defense, so he could inform the WBwhatever that he intends to fight Maidana as his manditory next and ask for a purse bid. End of problem, unless someone is being unreasonable.
Hopefully Rafael can give us some inside info on the numbers being tossed around so we can decide for ourselves who the problem is. | |
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