Biggest Bad Ass American President????

marbleheadmaui wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

the number of soldiers killed in WWI was never confirmed. But because that number is off you just disregard the rest of the post? Whatever dude some people are just not interested in the truth.

323,000 is the number of total casualties.

Implying the Lusitania was the reason the US entered WWI reflects either ignorance or dishonesty.

Why keep reading when both central tenants of the first section are simply wrong?

What do you think the main reason we entered the war was then?

word i should have expected you to not even give me a chance. At this point you are just trying to attack everything i say because it goes against what you think you know.

oggy420 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

the number of soldiers killed in WWI was never confirmed. But because that number is off you just disregard the rest of the post? Whatever dude some people are just not interested in the truth.

323,000 is the number of total casualties.

Implying the Lusitania was the reason the US entered WWI reflects either ignorance or dishonesty.

Why keep reading when both central tenants of the first section are simply wrong?

What do you think the main reason we entered the war was then?

As I said above the Zimmerman Telegram was what allowed Wilson to garner public support and the sinking of a series of US Merchant ships by U-Boats in 1917.

The best one volume book on WWI I know of is Martin Gilbert's http://www.amazon.com/First-World-War-Second-Complete/dp/0805076174/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282531607&sr=1-5

oggy420 wrote:

word i should have expected you to not even give me a chance. At this point you are just trying to attack everything i say because it goes against what you think you know.

Not give you a chance? I read what you wrote on WWI, found it loaded with errors. Now that doesn't count?

If you are seriously interested read SLA Marshall's WWI. Stay away from John Keegan's effort. Not remotely his best work.

so you don't even ackgnowledge the conversation between Colonel Edward House and Sir Edward Grey? I probably just made that up or something right?

oggy420 wrote:

so you don't even ackgnowledge the conversation between Colonel Edward House and Sir Edward Grey? I probably just made that up or something right?

It's irrelevant as it led to nothing that got the US involved as you alleged. It might have happened. It is of no import.

the zimmerman telegram no doubt was the final push needed to declare war, but bottom line : If the Lusitania wasn't sank we would have never went to war.

oggy420 wrote:

the zimmerman telegram no doubt was the final push needed to declare war, but bottom line : If the Lusitania wasn't sank we would have never went to war.

LOL, yeah and it only took TWO YEARS!

Get a grip.

dude everyone was completely against entering the war until that happened. That turned the american people against germany. Without the american people against germany and angry over the sinking of their ship there is no way they would have had enough support to enter the war.

oggy420 wrote:

dude everyone was completely against entering the war until that happened. That turned the american people against germany. Without the american people against germany and angry over the sinking of their ship there is no way they would have had enough support to enter the war.

LOL, you're just making stuff up now. The Lusitania was BRITISH not American as you imply above. It was a Cunard Liner. Sheesh.

If the American people were as outraged as you claim, we would have gone to war THEN, not two years later.

yes it was a british ship but there were 120 american passengers

oggy420 wrote:

yes it was a british ship but there were 120 american passengers

Heeey! You got one more or less correct! Well done!

I've provided a couple of books you might find interesting.

I'm out.

so instead of attacking me on technical things that really dont mean anything, are you going to tell me that what im saying about the International bankers is wrong? I mean you seem like an educated guy. Tell me what you think about the bankers and the federal reserve.

Birdofthad wrote:

Andrew Jackson slaughtere indians im not too high on him

didn't say he was perfect, i just admire him for paying off the national debt and fighting against the powers of a central bank. I mean every president before him owned slaves so thats just how it was back then.

word i guess marblehead isn't going to reply.

All im trying to do is point out that since the federal reserve was created in this country, we have seen the value of the dollar decrease every year. For the 1st time in history the us dollar has less value than a canadian dollar. People need to realize that our current monetary system is the root cause for practically all of our problems in society. It is designed to create perpetual debt and keep this social class system going in which people only value materialistic things and judge people by how much money they make. Our currency isn't backed by anything. It is literally just some official looking paper. The FED can continue to decrease the value of our money with inflation. Making money out of thin air. It is sickening. Money is the bloodline of society and yet almost the entire population is more concerned with watching their favorite sitcom or debating meaningless things like Right vs Left and bickering over truly insignificant things, instead of taking an interest in how our monetary system works. People see the Wall Street mumbo jumbo and get discouraged thinking that our economy is some complex system of mathematical equations or something. So they get discouraged and think that they cant understand. But it is really quite simple, we are slaves to the International Bankers. The large majority of our income taxes goes strait into the pockets of the bankers who run the Federal Reserve. This monetary system needs to go or i truly believe we will be headed to a one world government controlled by the bankers. And the worst thing is that most americans are so dumb downed and oblivious to what is going on that they will accept this without questioning it, as their political leaders who are just puppets on a string will tell them that everything will be ok.

ron paul

hahah Ron Peezy

Charlton Heston should've played a president.