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Wolfgangsta
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| | Subject: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:09 pm | |
| ...will people finally accept Mir's second career has largely been the product of obscene amounts of luck, or will they attribute it to Mir declining? Will people admit that Eddie Sanchez had a good shot of knocking Nog out that night, that CC would have decapitated Nog that night, and that his first Lesnar win was a fluke? | |
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acccardinal12
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:04 pm | |
| Yes the first Lesnar win was a fluke after a ref made one of the worst calls ever in MMA. We all know that. As far as I am concerned Mir is 0-2 against Brock. Alot of it depends on how Mir gets beat. If Cro Cop kicks him in the head out of nowhere I wouldn't think less of Mir for it. If CC beats him in every way then I would think luck has played a factor. It did in the first Lesnar fight and the NOG fight imo. | |
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timthebim
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:26 pm | |
| Nog is just about done as it is but Mir that night looked great. The Brock fight was definitely a fluke and Mir is on the downside but I believe Cro Cop is also. Should be a very good matchup in my opion. | |
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bobbitt15
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:27 pm | |
| Nog already took out the only man he can still stand with at HW - old paper chin Couture | |
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Wolfgangsta
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:24 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Nog already took out the only man he can still stand with at HW - old paper chin Couture
Nog would slap UFC HW's Russow, Madsen, Mitrione, Perosh, Morecraft, Struve, Beltran, and Tucsherer down and I'd still pick him to be able to stand with Gonzaga. | |
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bobbitt15
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:32 pm | |
| Should've edited it to say against guys he may actually face as I don't see him getting scrubs when he probably only has a few left in him | |
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Wolfgangsta
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:45 pm | |
| Nelson is another fight he could win on his feet if he is able to coax his best athleticism out of his camp with no injuries. A Mir rematch as well. The Nog that beat Couture wouldn't have lost the fight to Mir, at least not like that. | |
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acccardinal12
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:48 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Nelson is another fight he could win on his feet if he is able to coax his best athleticism out of his camp with no injuries. A Mir rematch as well. The Nog that beat Couture wouldn't have lost the fight to Mir, at least not like that.
I think Roy would beat Nog however he wanted. | |
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:48 pm | |
| Nog is past it but Mir is still in his prime. He just has no wrestling and can't beat the giants of the division. I give him a 50/50 shot against Cain and JDS and a better than 50/50 shot against Nelson. |
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boomer sooner
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:27 pm | |
| Mir was a good college wrestler. He's just not on par with Shane or Brock in that area. | |
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timthebim
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:54 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
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- Nog already took out the only man he can still stand with at HW - old paper chin Couture
Nog would slap UFC HW's Russow, Madsen, Mitrione, Perosh, Morecraft, Struve, Beltran, and Tucsherer down and I'd still pick him to be able to stand with Gonzaga. Gonzaga would KO Nogs old ass!!!! | |
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Wolfgangsta
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| | Subject: Re: If Crocop beats Mir... Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:04 am | |
| Mir has always been an admittedly shitty MMA wrestler. | |
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