I COULD BE WRONG, BUT

I must be too old to understand the "new" politics of the sport.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I don't agree at all Marble, politics have stopped fights from happening ever since the 90's.

Just making excuses. Oscar fought everybody, so did Tito, Manny's done plenty, Ricardo Lopez fought everyone, Izzy and Raffy fought excellent resumes. Need I keep going?

What's that you say, Oscar fought everybody hmm tell that to Winky Wright and Vernon Forrest may he rest in peace. Manny's not fought everybody either ,he's bypassed two divisions with pit stops.

NBrooks5 wrote:

I must be too old to understand the "new" politics of the sport.

LOL! Yeah, the Mob and Jim Norris and Tex Rickard were all easy to deal with, right

NBrooks5 wrote:

I must be too old to understand the "new" politics of the sport.

Greedy promoters, incompetent network execs, fighters obsessed with just money and not glory, corrupt sanction bodies.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I don't agree at all Marble, politics have stopped fights from happening ever since the 90's.

Just making excuses. Oscar fought everybody, so did Tito, Manny's done plenty, Ricardo Lopez fought everyone, Izzy and Raffy fought excellent resumes. Need I keep going?

What's that you say, Oscar thought everybody hmm tell that to Winky Wright and Vernon Forrest may he rest in peace. Manny's not thought everybody he's bypassed two divisions with pit stops.

Evander, Erik Morales, MAB, Glen Johnson, Wlad, Vitaly want some more names?????????

The issue is FANS accepting such behavior from fighters.

Ali_1748 wrote:

NBrooks5 wrote:

I must be too old to understand the "new" politics of the sport.

Greedy promoters, incompetent network execs, fighters obsessed with just money and not glory, corrupt sanction bodies.

THAT is the issue. THAT is what oughtta be unacceptable to fans.

Ok then so from your opinion then Caballero will just fall into the excuses category even though he's being ducked by Gamboa and JuanMa right now.

Ali_1748 wrote:

Ok then so from your opinion then Caballero will just fall into the excuses category even though he's being ducked by Gamboa and JuanMa right now.

On the list of not fully tested? All three of them are there at the moment aren't they?

The problem is fans 1) tolerating it and 2) making excuses for it and 3) rating them as if they ARE fully tested.

From there it's a short step to Flomo-land

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Ok then so from your opinion then Caballero will just fall into the excuses category even though he's being ducked by Gamboa and JuanMa right now.

On the list of not fully tested? All three of them are there at the moment aren't they?

The problem is fans 1) tolerating it and 2) making excuses for it and 3) rating them as if they ARE fully tested.

From there it's a short step to Flomo-land

.....yep..perfect anser.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Ok then so from your opinion then Caballero will just fall into the excuses category even though he's being ducked by Gamboa and JuanMa right now.

On the list of not fully tested? All three of them are there at the moment aren't they?

The problem is fans 1) tolerating it and 2) making excuses for it and 3) rating them as if they ARE fully tested.

From there it's a short step to Flomo-land

Nothing is stopping Caballero from taking short money to get these fights.

Well, actually, maybe Arum is.

Ali_1748 wrote:

Ok then so from your opinion then Caballero will just fall into the excuses category even though he's being ducked by Gamboa and JuanMa right now.

come on Ali Calzaghe wasnt flat out ducked and you know it my Scottish brethren

1 thing that i being completely over looked in this thread is fighters that were avoided because of the color of their skin

if a fighter cant get a fight, then he cant get a fight, it isnt his fault, its not fair to call him a ducker, or place the blame on him for not fighting, floyd tho, he is being offered huge money, to fight a smaller man, who i believe he beats easily, yet he still wont take the fight, that is ducking, also, as much as i like him, see david haye