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 FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title

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PostSubject: FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title   FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 3:03 pm

Manny Pacquiao’s junior welterweight title reign started with a bang 14 months ago but it gradually fizzled out when it became evident that the Filipino dynamo would only campaign at weights above 140 pounds.

Pacquiao’s chilling second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton last May earned him THE RING’s 140-pound championship. However, he never defended the title because the bigger fights were at heavier weights

After two consecutive welterweight bouts -- a 147-pound title-winning TKO of Miguel Cotto and a unanimous decision over Joshua Clottey -- Pacquiao’s hold on THE RING’s junior welterweight championship ended when a fight with Antonio Margarito was made over the weekend.

Because Pacquiao’s next bout will be contested over the 140-pound limit, Pacquiao was automatically removed from the champion’s position per an agreement the pound-for-pound king had with THE RING, thus making the magazine’s junior welterweight title vacant.

The contracted weight of the Margarito fight, which will take place on Nov. 13, has yet to be set but it will likely be above the welterweight limit, at either 154 pounds or a 150-pound catch weight, with a vacant junior middleweight title on the line.

“When Manny Pacquiao signed to fight Joshua Clottey at welterweight in March, Pacquiao requested that he be allowed to keep THE RING junior welterweight championship for the time being, but agreed that if his next bout was not a defense of the 140-pound title, it would mean an automatic relinquishment of the championship,” said Nigel Collins, Editor-in-Chief of THE RING. “Obviously, Pacquiao’s upcoming bout with Antonio Margarito will not be fought at 140 pounds. Therefore, Pacquiao has, in accordance with our agreement, relinquished the title.”

Why did Pacquiao and his adviser Michael Koncz want to hold onto the junior welterweight title?

One reason is that 140 pounds was his optimum fighting weight at the time he fought Hatton. Pacquiao was fast and powerful without having to drain himself to make weight. In fact, he ate breakfast the morning of the weigh-in for the Hatton, when tipped the scales at 138 pounds.

Another reason was the hope that a worthy challenger might emerge from the deep junior welterweight talent pool.

At the time of Pacquiao‘s sensational 140-pound title victory, THE RING’s Top 10 junior welterweights were as follows: Tim Bradley, Hatton, Junior Witter, Andreas Kotelnik, Paulie Malignaggi, Juan Urango, Kendall Holt, Ricardo Torres, Herman Ngoudjo and Marcos Maidana.

All 10 were solid fighters, but aside from Hatton, who “the PacMan” had just gobbled up, none had the kind of name recognition and accomplishments that could earn a high-profile showdown with the newly crowned junior welterweight champ.

So Pacquiao, who had retired Oscar De La Hoya in a welterweight bout six months before he annihilated Hatton, ventured back to the 147-pound division, where big names (Floyd Mayweather Jr., Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley), history (seven titles in seven weight classes) and lots of money awaited.

And if Pacquiao’s promoter and trainer have anything to say about it, welterweight (and heavier) is where he’ll stay.

Bob Arum’s reasons are blatantly self-serving. None of the current 140-pound standouts fight under his Top Rank banner (as Cotto, Clottey and Margarito do).

Freddie Roach’s reasons have more to do with his fighter’s growing body.

Pacquiao’s last two welterweight bouts -- and the high-calorie, high-protein diets that were integral parts of the camps for those fights -- have added enough muscle to the Filipino icon’s 5-foot-7 frame that making 140 pounds is no longer a piece of cake.

“It was special for Manny to win the 140-pound title from Hatton, but I prefer that he fight at welterweight from now on,” Roach told RingTV.com. “I like him at welterweight because he makes 147 comfortably, with no struggle at all. He can eat breakfast and lunch the day of the weigh-in and still make 147 easily.

“Making 140 pounds now would be a struggle. He would have to miss meals the final weeks of camp and when he does that, he’s not happy. He gets really grumpy, like most fighters who struggle to make weight, and he’s not as easy to train. I like it when Manny is happy. I think we’ve proven that he fights better when he’s happy, when he’s comfortable.”

Pacquiao’s relinquishment of THE RING’s 140-pound title is probably for the best. While Pacquiao was the champ, he was not only the focus of all the junior welterweight young guns, but a distraction from key bouts being made in the division.

Now that the title is vacant, the top contenders have something attainable to aim for and another reason to face each other in the ring.

“Although it sometimes takes time, THE RING feels that relying on champions to do the correct thing is far better than stripping them of the championship won in the ring,” said Collins. “In fact, since THE RING’s current championship policy was launched in 2002, no RING champion has failed to do the honorable thing when asked to voluntarily give up the title. Now that Pacquiao has officially abdicated, the road is clear for the No. 1 contender, Timothy Bradley, to fight the No. 2 contender, currently Devon Alexander, for the vacant title.”

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2157/ring_ratings_update_pacquiao_relinquishes_140pound_title/


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PostSubject: Re: FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title   FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 3:08 pm

Hopefully see it on the line next year with Devon vs Timmy on 1/29/2011
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Or if Bradley vs Khan happens.
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PostSubject: Re: FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title   FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 3:25 pm

Khan # 3, could happen, but I doubt it

Likely to face JMM-Diaz II winner
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PostSubject: Re: FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title   FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:25 pm

long overdue
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Canvas wrote:
long overdue

The good thing is he's being stripped right before a potential fight between #1 vs #2 so the void could be filled soon.
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PostSubject: Re: FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title   FINALLY !!! Manny Pacquiao stripped of his Jr Welterweight Ring title EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 4:31 pm

Roach is a bonehead. PacBitch belongs at 140. Pac going through Bradley, Alexander, Khan, and JMM would have been the ultimate close to an ATG career.

Instead we get Clottey and the cheater.
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It seems even Freddie is scared of Manny's diva fits, I wonder if he cowers in the corner like Mike Koncz every time Manny gets a regular latte when he ordered a soya one.
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I started to see thru PacBoy's 'humble, man of the people" facade during the Oscar and Hatton negotiations
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Yup Manny's not the saint his fans make him out to be, he cheats on his wife,gambles and even indulges in cock fighting.
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Napolean complex
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I'd love to be a fly on the wall the day somebody criticizes his singing.
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Ali_1748 wrote:
Yup Manny's not the saint his fans make him out to be, he cheats on his wife,gambles and even indulges in cock fighting.

90% of athletes cheat on their wife.

Just as much gamble.

And cock fighting is big in spanish countries and i guess in asian countries also.
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SlickMoneyXL wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
Yup Manny's not the saint his fans make him out to be, he cheats on his wife,gambles and even indulges in cock fighting.

90% of athletes cheat on their wife.

Just as much gamble.

And cock fighting is big in spanish countries and i guess in asian countries also.

Do you think Shane cheated on Jin ?
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Ali_1748 wrote:
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Ali_1748 wrote:
Yup Manny's not the saint his fans make him out to be, he cheats on his wife,gambles and even indulges in cock fighting.

90% of athletes cheat on their wife.

Just as much gamble.

And cock fighting is big in spanish countries and i guess in asian countries also.

Do you think Shane cheated on Jin ?

My guess would be Yes. Shane coming home to a lady looking like Jin every night? That should give you the answer.
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I'd be too intimidated to displease Jin, she looks like she's got a wicked slap in her.
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A punch from Shane >>> A slap from Jin.
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no Jin cheated on Shane

we know who wore the pants in that relationship

Shane was at home doing the dishes and scrubbing the floor while Jin was getting tagged
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Should have happened in May. I know after Clottey there was some talk of Valero before he snapped, but after that, he should have done the right thing.

I remember Jin getting right in the face of Vargas' barrio trash girl.

And Ali, I know it's wrong by our standards, but cockfighting is wildly popular in most former Spanish colonies, with P.R and the Phillipines probably being the leaders. I could have sworn that Daniel Santos was once on that website that had cockfights streamed from Bayamon (alongside with Rio Heroes). Must have been during one of Santos' 18 month vacations.
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I realize it's popular It's just not the sort of actions I saint should be indulging in Smile

BTW If Valero didn't go haywire do you think he'd be facing Manny in November ?
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Well, Arum is keeping everything in house. And despite the improved skill he showed in the DeMarco fight, he was still too reckless to beat Manny. I think that's the route the Bobfather would have taken.
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