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PostSubject: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 6:51 pm

Not sure if some1 posted this already but they have been named the main event on September 15 for the Ultimate Fight Night leading up to the new season of TUF. This is a sick fight especially being free on Spike. This is my boy Belchers big chance. If he gets a win here he should move up into the title picture talk. Just wondering how u guys think this goes down? Now that I think about it I think we have talked about it already so if we have sorry Boys!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 7:13 pm

sounds good.

i got Belcher
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 7:26 pm

Belcher wins unless Maia can get sa sick sub

Im honestly a little bummed though cause i am going to this card no matter what, it will be 40 minutes away (when i start school up) and is on my birthday but the card is not very solid

this is a great non main event fight IMO
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 7:27 pm

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/mma-f1/belcher-vs-maia-at-ufn-22-t5167.htm

Yeah it was brought up a little while back. But now it is official. Looks like a nice free card on SPIKE. Miller vs Tibau on the card.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 7:29 pm

For being live on Spike I think it is awesome!!
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 7:29 pm

OUSOONERSOU wrote:
https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/mma-f1/belcher-vs-maia-at-ufn-22-t5167.htm

Yeah it was brought up a little while back. But now it is official. Looks like a nice free card on SPIKE. Miller vs Tibau on the card.

My bad I figured some1 brought it up cause I thought I remembered talking about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 9:35 pm

I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 9:48 pm

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I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 9:49 pm

captain organic wrote:
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I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.

If Carwin would have did it he maybe the Champ right now!!
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:09 pm

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captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.

If Carwin would have did it he maybe the Champ right now!!

slightly different....... but not untrue.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:36 pm

captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.

Look how that worked for Herring when he dropped Nog, Berry when he dropped Cro Cop multiple times, or Le when he dropped Smith. And that is just off the top of my head. There are dangers to rushing to finish and to not finishing when there is a chance. The greats just make the right choices when they're in that situation.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:21 pm

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I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.

Look how that worked for Herring when he dropped Nog, Berry when he dropped Cro Cop multiple times, or Le when he dropped Smith. And that is just off the top of my head. There are dangers to rushing to finish and to not finishing when there is a chance. The greats just make the right choices when they're in that situation.


difference being Belcher should enjoy a huge adv in the standup vs Maia, Berry did not vs Cro Cop, nor did Herring vs Nog. Le vs Smith is not a great example cause Smith has little by way of a submission game for which to threaten Le(though it could be noted that Le did waste alot of energy trying to finish Smith in the 1st fight, much like Carwin vs Brock).

Bottom line is, Belcher should be able to pummel Maia in a standup affair, so imo, no need to follow him to the ground no matter how rocked Maia is.

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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:46 pm

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Farmer1906 wrote:
captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.

Look how that worked for Herring when he dropped Nog, Berry when he dropped Cro Cop multiple times, or Le when he dropped Smith. And that is just off the top of my head. There are dangers to rushing to finish and to not finishing when there is a chance. The greats just make the right choices when they're in that situation.


difference being Belcher should enjoy a huge adv in the standup vs Maia, Berry did not vs Cro Cop, nor did Herring vs Nog. Le vs Smith is not a great example cause Smith has little by way of a submission game for which to threaten Le(though it could be noted that Le did waste alot of energy trying to finish Smith in the 1st fight, much like Carwin vs Brock).

Bottom line is, Belcher should be able to pummel Maia in a standup affair, so imo, no need to follow him to the ground no matter how rocked Maia is.


Maia lasted 5 rounds on the feet with Anderson and even won one of those rounds. Don't count him out so quickly. His stand up is not as good as Belcher's, but Belcher is no world beater.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 12:53 am

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Look how that worked for Herring when he dropped Nog, Berry when he dropped Cro Cop multiple times, or Le when he dropped Smith. And that is just off the top of my head. There are dangers to rushing to finish and to not finishing when there is a chance. The greats just make the right choices when they're in that situation.

Well we could pick apart the ins and outs like the Herring-Nog fight, Nog wasn't all that hurt really and Herring had no business jumping into his guard no matter what, or fights that were one sided assrapings until a guy Carwin'd out or a fight where the knockdown shots broke hands and the fighter knew it, but instead I'd just say - um you want Belcher to jump into Maia's guard?

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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 10:17 am

Maia only won the round where Anderson refused to engage him.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 2:00 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
captain organic wrote:
Farmer1906 wrote:
I really like this fight. Maia is evolving as a stand up fighter (not there yet) but he needs to remember what he's best at. I think he'll lure Belcher to the floor and end it before the final bell.

He can't hang with Belcher in the standup. Belcher would be smart to avoid Maia's gaurd. Would like to see more standup guys employ the Cung Le philosophy. I knocked you down, points for me, now stand the fuck back up.

Look how that worked for Herring when he dropped Nog, Berry when he dropped Cro Cop multiple times, or Le when he dropped Smith. And that is just off the top of my head. There are dangers to rushing to finish and to not finishing when there is a chance. The greats just make the right choices when they're in that situation.


difference being Belcher should enjoy a huge adv in the standup vs Maia, Berry did not vs Cro Cop, nor did Herring vs Nog. Le vs Smith is not a great example cause Smith has little by way of a submission game for which to threaten Le(though it could be noted that Le did waste alot of energy trying to finish Smith in the 1st fight, much like Carwin vs Brock).

Bottom line is, Belcher should be able to pummel Maia in a standup affair, so imo, no need to follow him to the ground no matter how rocked Maia is.


Maia lasted 5 rounds on the feet with Anderson and even won one of those rounds. Don't count him out so quickly. His stand up is not as good as Belcher's, but Belcher is no world beater.


But Maia is a world beater off his back.

Add the recent Manhoef fight for an example of where the "just let the dude back up" philosophy should have been employed.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 6:21 pm

Belcher throws about 50 fucking kicks per round. Either he has to change up strategy or one of them is getting caught and its going to the ground
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 10:46 pm

I was huge on Damian Maia

and then Marquardt happened
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 10:50 pm

This is the kind of fight where either fighter is guarenteed to look bad regardless.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 11:04 pm

agree wolf either Belcher gets subbed like Sonnen or Maia gets Knocked the fuck out
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 11:56 pm

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I was huge on Damian Maia

and then Marquardt happened

So you hoped off the bandwagon? Probably weren't that big of a fan if you let 1 KO scare you away.
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyWed Jul 14, 2010 12:05 am

still a fan, thing that hurt was i was telling virtually everyone Maia was gonna sub Nate
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyWed Jul 14, 2010 2:57 pm

lol@ farmer and his band wagon ass fucking babble. Change your opinion based on new data and you must be a wagonner right?
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyWed Jul 14, 2010 4:45 pm

Wolf some1 called u a band wagon fan 1 time and now all the sudden u throw it out there at every1 all the time LOL???
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PostSubject: Re: Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher   Damien Maia vs Alan Belcher EmptyWed Jul 14, 2010 5:01 pm

Its been way more than once and from multiple people
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