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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:46 pm | |
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| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:50 pm | |
| I would like to see him fight any of them except Forrest. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:52 pm | |
| He must not have gotten the memo that Vitor is at 185
I wouldn't be opposed to a fight with Franklin even though its already happened. I don't want to see Forrest get his ass kicked. Not sure what their plans are with Page yet | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:53 pm | |
| Forrest woud have the best chance of any of them to win considering technically when he is on his game he is the best striking match up out of any of those, save Belfort I suppose, but I've never thought he was a particularly amazing striker, just a very fast one.
Rampage is probably the best overall fighter of that bunch but the worst overall match up as his one dimensional striking is predicated on counter punching in the pocket almost exclusively. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:55 pm | |
| Machida would be favored to beat all of these guys. Rampage I believe makes the most sense right now. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:56 pm | |
| I just don't see the UFC wanting either Machida/Rampage coming off back to back losses. I think both of those 2 will have fights they'll likely be favored in next | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:57 pm | |
| Rampage makes the absolute least sense. Everyone, Rampage included, knows that a Machida fight following a loss to Evans would end his career as a top competitive draw. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:57 pm | |
| I think Rich vs Machida 2 would be a good fight. I wouldn't mind seeing that at all. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:01 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Rampage makes the absolute least sense. Everyone, Rampage included, knows that a Machida fight following a loss to Evans would end his career as a top competitive draw.
If Rampage wants to stay relevant Machida is the kind of win he needs. I disagree with u that he wouldnt be a top draw if he loss also Wolf. | |
| | | oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:05 pm | |
| Machida vs Ace 2 Page vs Forrest 2 Belfort should fight Leben or Wand. Actually i want to see Leben vs Wand so Vitor can fight someone else. | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:06 pm | |
| Page vs Forrest 2 wouldnt be bad because I think I remember Rampage saying he wanted a rematch with Forrest. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:15 pm | |
| Once Rampage is seen as noncompetitive he won't be selling nearly as many fights. This is true with all fighters. Forrest and Tito only did 400K, and Rampage is more in their category than Liddell's category in terms of fan support, who together with Rich Franklin didn't do much more(side note - wish the final numbers would be known) | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:22 pm | |
| Rampage is the only one that makes sense because Machida is ready to go now and none of the other but Page is.
Forrest has shoulder problems
Rich has a broken arm
And Vitor is coming off surgery with a title shot already plus he's in a different weight class.
Rampage needs to sack up and fight if offered. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:40 pm | |
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| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:03 pm | |
| Rashad gets screwed if dana makes him fight Machida again before he can have his shot. He earned it already and shouldnt have to beat the number 3 guy now to get his title shot. | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:08 pm | |
| Machida, Machida, Machida!!!
Bye bye Rashad | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:23 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Rashad gets screwed if dana makes him fight Machida again before he can have his shot. He earned it already and shouldnt have to beat the number 3 guy now to get his title shot.
Technically it would be for the title. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:34 pm | |
| Not a big fan of Machida fighting for the interim title in his first fight since losing the real title. But in Evans case, if he has aspirations of becoming and/or , but more so, staying champion, he has to get by Machida. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:43 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Not a big fan of Machida fighting for the interim title in his first fight since losing the real title. But in Evans case, if he has aspirations of becoming and/or , but more so, staying champion, he has to get by Machida.
Why is that? I say Rashad went back and earned his shot by beating Rampage and Thiago. Machida needs to dot he same with at least 1 win IMO. Looking back Machida had a pretty easy route to the title. He fought Hoger, Heath, Nakamura, Soko, Ortiz, and Thiago. In reality only 1 legit win vs a borderline top 10 fighter. Now he did beat Rashad so it is hard to say he wasn't deserving, but I think that needs to be considered. Plus most of us realize Machida is on a 0-2 streak right now vs #1 fighter, but it is still an 0-2 streak. | |
| | | SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:44 pm | |
| dana better stroke page a nice check and get him to step up to the plate and put on a show and bring the fight to machida just like shogun did. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:51 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- Not a big fan of Machida fighting for the interim title in his first fight since losing the real title. But in Evans case, if he has aspirations of becoming and/or , but more so, staying champion, he has to get by Machida.
Why is that?
I say Rashad went back and earned his shot by beating Rampage and Thiago. Machida needs to dot he same with at least 1 win IMO. Looking back Machida had a pretty easy route to the title. He fought Hoger, Heath, Nakamura, Soko, Ortiz, and Thiago. In reality only 1 legit win vs a borderline top 10 fighter. Now he did beat Rashad so it is hard to say he wasn't deserving, but I think that needs to be considered. Plus most of us realize Machida is on a 0-2 streak right now vs #1 fighter, but it is still an 0-2 streak. Evans will need to fight Machida again especially if he is ever champ again. If they fought in the fall that would be getting to the point of it but given the implications, too soon for Machida I think. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| - sokolkevin wrote:
- dana better stroke page a nice check and get him to step up to the plate and put on a show and bring the fight to machida just like shogun did.
Page supposedly made 2 Million for his last fight with the big PPV bonus (800K+ buys) He needs to fight when asks when you're making as much an anyone in MMA. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- Not a big fan of Machida fighting for the interim title in his first fight since losing the real title. But in Evans case, if he has aspirations of becoming and/or , but more so, staying champion, he has to get by Machida.
Why is that?
I say Rashad went back and earned his shot by beating Rampage and Thiago. Machida needs to dot he same with at least 1 win IMO. Looking back Machida had a pretty easy route to the title. He fought Hoger, Heath, Nakamura, Soko, Ortiz, and Thiago. In reality only 1 legit win vs a borderline top 10 fighter. Now he did beat Rashad so it is hard to say he wasn't deserving, but I think that needs to be considered. Plus most of us realize Machida is on a 0-2 streak right now vs #1 fighter, but it is still an 0-2 streak. Evans will need to fight Machida again especially if he is ever champ again. If they fought in the fall that would be getting to the point of it but given the implications, too soon for Machida I think. My point was, who is to say Machida earns a shot vs Rashad. He may very well lose to Rampage while Rashad is fighting for the title. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:55 pm | |
| Could happen. My point is just that Machida is still a big dog, and the one who jacked up Evans. If Evans is ever champ again and Machida is close to relevant, Evans will have to face him again. To do so now would make sense if Evans wasn't the #1 contender. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Machida interested in Forrest, Page, Ace, & Belfort Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:11 pm | |
| Machida needs to fight somebody before getting a title shot | |
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