Sherdogs P4P no fedor

pfft! Thats fucking hilarious

oggy420 wrote:

pfft! Thats fucking hilarious

I almost find it depressing that he actually believes that.

He thinks Rashad would easily beat Fedor at 205 so his opinion isn't too surprising

Rashad Evan's is the second coming of Ray Leonard with a wrestling background.

lol thats a good one

Ok, what did I say that was so wrong? His recent resume, let's say last 5 fights, is much better than Fedor's, is it not?

I have come to the conclusion that Fedor didn't tap. He was looking for money in Fab's pockets, because his M-1 checks kept bouncing.

You could construct a strength of schedule argument based on the post fight struggles of some of Fedor's opponents perhaps but not a skill for skill argument. Evans and Emelianenko's once beaten careers don't compare and aren't even in the same category. Evans on top for a fight. Emelianenko for 7 years. Remove each of their recent losses, Fedor has been much more dominant. Fedor wasn't dominated like Evans was either. Fedor was tricked into a triangle, a small but fatal lapse but Evans was slowly dissected mentally before being brutally dissected physically. Rashad has a very questionable ability to take damage and is much more limited in ways to finish fights than Fedor. Even if they were the same size, Fedor would ruin Evans.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/172662-top-10-mma-pound-for-pound-list

The most important factor to keep in mind is that the essence of pound-for-pound is relative, not absolute.

Absolute is comparing the fighters against one another if they fought in the same weight class. This is a common mistake.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/06/28/mma-top-10-pound-for-pound-emperors-reign-ends/

I don't know much about that website, I just Googled "mma pound for pound" and that's the only one other than Sherdog that has updated P4P. Not coincidentally, it also leaves out Fedor.

You guys are awesome but I wish you weren't so set in your ways sometimes. If Fedor was #1 and was left out of the Top 10 it would be a travesty, but where would you rank him after the loss? #7ish? Is it that horrendous that a guy you consider #7 is left off a Top 10? He wasn't #1 P4P anywhere other than Ninja's going into his last fight, most places had him at at least #3-4. This wasn't a #1 losing to a #2, it was a #4 losing to a #54 or whatever Werdum would have been placed at P4P. That's going to drop you a bit.

I got Werdum on my p4p. Joe Rogan would tell you ; That was air tight MMA BJJ, THAT DUDE IS A BAD MOTHER FUCKER. His BJJ is FOR REAL. He is a SCARY ASS FUCKIN DUDE.

I still have Fedor as #1 on the P4P list.....IMO he is the best fighter in the world....still.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I still have Fedor as #1 on the P4P list.....IMO he is the best fighter in the world....still.

Seriously? He loses, and he doesn't drop at all? Even though he's clearly not the best fighter in the world anymore?

chorky777 wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I still have Fedor as #1 on the P4P list.....IMO he is the best fighter in the world....still.

Seriously? He loses, and he doesn't drop at all? Even though he's clearly not the best fighter in the world anymore?

Really? How is he "clearly" not the best fighter in the world anymore? Was GSP clearly not the best WW in the world when he lost to Serra? IMO Fedor would beat Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Reem and Werdum. I think he is STILL the best in the world. Haters have been waiting to drop the guy. But like I have said 100 times now, dominating for years and years gives you some breathing room. I didn't drop GSP even 1 spot when he lost...was I wrong? Was he not still the best?

I could see not having Fedor in the top ten if BJ, and Machida were also excluded. It would at least be consistent. I don't rank it that way though.

Well Machida lost to the guy ranked 2 in his division, and BJ to the guy ranked 4-5. Werdum was not in many HW top 10s, I can see the argument for him not in the top 10, though he'd still be in mine for sure. You could compare it to Torres who was ranked like 3-4, dominant, lost and now is well outside the top 10.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Well Machida lost to the guy ranked 2 in his division, and BJ to the guy ranked 4-5. Werdum was not in many HW top 10s, I can see the argument for him not in the top 10, though he'd still be in mine for sure. You could compare it to Torres who was ranked like 3-4, dominant, lost and now is well outside the top 10.

Yeah, but on most lists I saw he hung around the 8-10 area until he lost to Benavidez. Fedor loses one fight in 10 years and he's gone?

Just saying I could see the argument, not trying to make it.