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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 1:57 pm

ha ha, not even on the list? I thought maybe u meant not #1 anymore, but not even top 10? Dana has them by the tail for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 1:58 pm

So the website that had him at 3 for so long because they felt forced to do so dropped him??? No??? How could this extremely credible site do such a thing???
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 1:59 pm

Shad a top 10 p4p guy? Above Fedor? Totally, absolutely, ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:00 pm

I know, I was never a fan of their rankings in the first place
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:02 pm

i think its funny.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:04 pm

I laugh everytime I see Jon Fitch at #6 on their list
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:05 pm

ya fitch is a WTF?
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:11 pm

Fedor is the greatest HW and one of the top fighters in any weight class of all time. That said, for a HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.

Sherdog still has him as the #3 HW, which is entirely reasonable. It would be pretty difficult to justify putting the #3 guy in his weight class in a P4P list without including both guys above him too.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 pm

I am not shocked, but I agree with Chicken I was never a big fan of their rankings.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 pm

captain organic wrote:
Shad a top 10 p4p guy? Above Fedor? Totally, absolutely, ridiculous.

I dont have a real beef with shad being in the top 10 at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 2:56 pm

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That said, for a BOXING HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.

Corrected.


Sherdog is wrong. Fedor beats larger opponents often using one of the most well rounded games in MMA. He wins easily in other weight classes too. Sherdog is a site I abandoned a long time ago, now I'll never be back.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 3:00 pm

God this websites rankings are awful.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 3:01 pm

thessy11 wrote:
Fedor is the greatest HW and one of the top fighters in any weight class of all time. That said, for a HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.

Sherdog still has him as the #3 HW, which is entirely reasonable. It would be pretty difficult to justify putting the #3 guy in his weight class in a P4P list without including both guys above him too.

It's not difficult to put a very small HW on a p4p list above 2 huge heavies, who may or may not have earned higher divisional rankings.

Small heavies trump large heavies in p4p discussion. It's a very reasonable concept.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 3:01 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
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That said, for a BOXING HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.

Corrected.


Sherdog is wrong. Fedor beats larger opponents often using one of the most well rounded games in MMA. He wins easily in other weight classes too. Sherdog is a site I abandoned a long time ago, now I'll never be back.

their fight finder is pretty darn good.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 3:06 pm

Of course. I'm speaking about their articles and analysis. Bloodyelbow has a higher end mixture of assbabble and analysis, if I need that, I'll go there. Even if luke thomas is some what of a forum kiddie.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 3:43 pm

Frankie Edgar at #4 just makes me laugh at that list.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 4:00 pm

what do you expect? It's Sherdog....
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 4:42 pm

I expect crap from sherdogs rankings. That list is like some one ate shit, then 25 minutes later they puked it up onto a 4 day old mastiff carcass.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 4:46 pm

everyone knows their rankings have always mostly been a joke
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 4:50 pm

oggy420 wrote:
everyone knows their rankings have always mostly been a joke

No no no

Far too many people use their rankings, but they have always sucked big giant donkey ass.

Only in the last year have so have a larger portion of fans come around on how bad they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 5:02 pm

lol...wow.

THis is why i don't care for or make P4P rankings..they are usually void of understanding of what P4P is and it changes by the season.

Fedor's skills translate everywhere. He never used crap like brute strength and size to get by in a division full of giants...Fedor would be equally dangerous if you put his skills in any type of body be it 135,145 and up. Probably more dangerous.

The fact that they don't have him top 10 because he lost a fight after 10 years is sucking up to somebody...but who? silent
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+1 Kings. +1
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 5:05 pm

Do you think it's Sherdog trying to get back into Dana's good books ?
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PostSubject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor   Sherdogs P4P no fedor EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 5:07 pm

captain organic wrote:
Shad a top 10 p4p guy? Above Fedor? Totally, absolutely, ridiculous.

He's a better fighter than Fedor p4p. He has a much better recent resume, where he actually fights the best fighters in one of the sport's best divisions. Fedor had a long time of fighting mid tier opponents in the least skilled division. It's pretty simple.
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