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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:55 pm | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:57 pm | |
| ha ha, not even on the list? I thought maybe u meant not #1 anymore, but not even top 10? Dana has them by the tail for sure. | |
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OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:58 pm | |
| So the website that had him at 3 for so long because they felt forced to do so dropped him??? No??? How could this extremely credible site do such a thing??? | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:59 pm | |
| Shad a top 10 p4p guy? Above Fedor? Totally, absolutely, ridiculous. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:00 pm | |
| I know, I was never a fan of their rankings in the first place | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rashad Evans #1!,Rampage,GSP,Couture,Chael Sonnen,BJ Penn,Robbie Lawler,King MO,Frank Mir Posts : 8931 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 39 Location : Charlotte , North Carolina
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:02 pm | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:04 pm | |
| I laugh everytime I see Jon Fitch at #6 on their list | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rashad Evans #1!,Rampage,GSP,Couture,Chael Sonnen,BJ Penn,Robbie Lawler,King MO,Frank Mir Posts : 8931 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 39 Location : Charlotte , North Carolina
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:05 pm | |
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thessy11 Orange Belt
Posts : 209 Join date : 2009-07-19
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:11 pm | |
| Fedor is the greatest HW and one of the top fighters in any weight class of all time. That said, for a HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.
Sherdog still has him as the #3 HW, which is entirely reasonable. It would be pretty difficult to justify putting the #3 guy in his weight class in a P4P list without including both guys above him too. | |
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Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 pm | |
| I am not shocked, but I agree with Chicken I was never a big fan of their rankings. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- Shad a top 10 p4p guy? Above Fedor? Totally, absolutely, ridiculous.
I dont have a real beef with shad being in the top 10 at all. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:56 pm | |
| - Quote :
- That said, for a BOXING HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.
Corrected. Sherdog is wrong. Fedor beats larger opponents often using one of the most well rounded games in MMA. He wins easily in other weight classes too. Sherdog is a site I abandoned a long time ago, now I'll never be back. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:00 pm | |
| God this websites rankings are awful. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| - thessy11 wrote:
- Fedor is the greatest HW and one of the top fighters in any weight class of all time. That said, for a HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.
Sherdog still has him as the #3 HW, which is entirely reasonable. It would be pretty difficult to justify putting the #3 guy in his weight class in a P4P list without including both guys above him too. It's not difficult to put a very small HW on a p4p list above 2 huge heavies, who may or may not have earned higher divisional rankings. Small heavies trump large heavies in p4p discussion. It's a very reasonable concept. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
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- That said, for a BOXING HW to crack a "P4P" list they need to essentially be untouchable, and Fedor's loss has removed the aura of invincibility, which was the only thing that had him in the P4P list to begin with.
Corrected.
Sherdog is wrong. Fedor beats larger opponents often using one of the most well rounded games in MMA. He wins easily in other weight classes too. Sherdog is a site I abandoned a long time ago, now I'll never be back. their fight finder is pretty darn good. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:06 pm | |
| Of course. I'm speaking about their articles and analysis. Bloodyelbow has a higher end mixture of assbabble and analysis, if I need that, I'll go there. Even if luke thomas is some what of a forum kiddie. | |
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| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| Frankie Edgar at #4 just makes me laugh at that list. |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:00 pm | |
| what do you expect? It's Sherdog.... | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:42 pm | |
| I expect crap from sherdogs rankings. That list is like some one ate shit, then 25 minutes later they puked it up onto a 4 day old mastiff carcass. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:46 pm | |
| everyone knows their rankings have always mostly been a joke | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:50 pm | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- everyone knows their rankings have always mostly been a joke
No no no Far too many people use their rankings, but they have always sucked big giant donkey ass. Only in the last year have so have a larger portion of fans come around on how bad they are. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:02 pm | |
| lol...wow. THis is why i don't care for or make P4P rankings..they are usually void of understanding of what P4P is and it changes by the season. Fedor's skills translate everywhere. He never used crap like brute strength and size to get by in a division full of giants...Fedor would be equally dangerous if you put his skills in any type of body be it 135,145 and up. Probably more dangerous. The fact that they don't have him top 10 because he lost a fight after 10 years is sucking up to somebody...but who? | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:04 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:05 pm | |
| Do you think it's Sherdog trying to get back into Dana's good books ? |
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chorky777 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Weidman, McGregor, Pettis, Cowboy Posts : 1222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Dayton, OH
| Subject: Re: Sherdogs P4P no fedor Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- Shad a top 10 p4p guy? Above Fedor? Totally, absolutely, ridiculous.
He's a better fighter than Fedor p4p. He has a much better recent resume, where he actually fights the best fighters in one of the sport's best divisions. Fedor had a long time of fighting mid tier opponents in the least skilled division. It's pretty simple. | |
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