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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:38 pm | |
| Lesnar is a private weirdo who hates the media anyway, so other than mandatory interviews, it's pretty much a rule that he won't do any extra interviews, but Carwin has recently tweeted that the only statements or interviews he will be doing will be through his twitter and his website.
Both fighters refusing to engage in significant trash talk and media relations will probably harm the ultimate buy rate for this card. I am sure Dana cannot be happy. | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:42 pm | |
| i bet they will end up doing it. its stupid not to. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:45 pm | |
| While trash talk would be nice, I'm not sure how much promotion the UFC really needs to sell a Lesnar fight at this point | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:54 pm | |
| There are levels of marketability though. Look what trash talk did to the Jackson-Evans bout for instance. This is also why Lesnar-Mir III was nearly made.
A Lesnar PPV will always be huge, but if these giant guys were all over the internet and media talking about how much they hate eachother, the buzz would be even bigger.
This is the only other UFC event this year that can hope to get to a million buys, they need to push this as hardcore as possible. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:01 am | |
| I'm sure Dana will have something to say to both of them. This would mean they wouldn't be doing a Primetime for this? I can't imagine Dana would be having any part of that nonsense | |
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josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:02 am | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- I'm sure Dana will have something to say to both of them. This would mean they wouldn't be doing a Primetime for this? I can't imagine Dana would be having any part of that nonsense
carwin said no primetime just a countdown. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:17 am | |
| - josh200612 wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- I'm sure Dana will have something to say to both of them. This would mean they wouldn't be doing a Primetime for this? I can't imagine Dana would be having any part of that nonsense
carwin said no primetime just a countdown. That would be stupid of both of them. Primtime will help PPV buys in which they will get more money. That won't last. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:45 am | |
| If Carwin believes he needs this to to win then the long term pay off is more then what he gains from more buys.
As a fan it sucks because its less for us to read and get excited about and it doesn't grow the sport as much as it could. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:03 am | |
| pretty stupid to not do this it will affect buy rate
so is Brock not going to go on ESPN ? and Carwin?
if not thats stupid | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:32 am | |
| Still will easily do over a million buys | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:35 am | |
| Carwin doesn't get a PPV chunk for this fight. Just 50k. That is pretty surprising. As interm champion you'd think Carwin would be collecting PPV revenue for this fight.
Maybe Carwin is trying to get a chunk in exchange for hyping the fight the extra mile? | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:00 am | |
| Either way the fight will be huge and it I think both know this fight will be a war so they dont want any extra distractions. | |
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:44 am | |
| They don't really need any trash talk to sell this fight, all the UFC needs to do is hype up Carwin's power. |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:48 am | |
| I agree Ali. They have to make people think that if he connects then the fight would be over and that shouldnt be that hard to accomplish. | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:28 am | |
| Honestly, there isn't a need for a primetime show. The UFC can put advertising dollars behind this fight in other ways and get a similar buy rate. This isn't Jackson vs. Evans, they don't hate each other, so it's not like if they did interviews they would be saying they wanted to rape each other's wives and eat their children. Carwin isn't that much of a shit talker and neither is Lesnar unless you catch him in a roid rage.
This ain't black on black crime anymore. | |
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:55 am | |
| - Bigs03 wrote:
- Honestly, there isn't a need for a primetime show. The UFC can put advertising dollars behind this fight in other ways and get a similar buy rate. This isn't Jackson vs. Evans, they don't hate each other, so it's not like if they did interviews they would be saying they wanted to rape each other's wives and eat their children. Carwin isn't that much of a shit talker and neither is Lesnar unless you catch him in a roid rage.
This ain't black on black crime anymore. It's monster on monster crime. |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:57 am | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Bigs03 wrote:
- Honestly, there isn't a need for a primetime show. The UFC can put advertising dollars behind this fight in other ways and get a similar buy rate. This isn't Jackson vs. Evans, they don't hate each other, so it's not like if they did interviews they would be saying they wanted to rape each other's wives and eat their children. Carwin isn't that much of a shit talker and neither is Lesnar unless you catch him in a roid rage.
This ain't black on black crime anymore. It's monster on monster crime. Like the avatar Ali. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:27 pm | |
| It's black genes on black genes crime.
The fight will be successful either way, but I have a hard time believing a Primetime wouldn't jump the buys up even more by simply increasing exposure. Nevermind the buzz that could be generated by watching footage from two 265 pound guys in their camp throwing 220 pound guys around like a Hulk Hogan wrestling buddy.
No different than Mayweather-Mosley. The fight would have sold well no matter how you slice it but they still invested in a 24/7 type show, the same concept of a Primetime. I imagine Pacman-Mayweather will be promoted heavily too. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carwin and Lesnar both refusing to do media tours. Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:43 pm | |
| Wolf I think ur right in the sense that it wouldnt hurt to have a show but they definitely dont need it with Brock fighting. He is a huge draw and I guarantee about a week before the fight there will be some shit talking to help boost the ppv buys. | |
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