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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
PostSubject: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 9:28 am

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/6/4/1500894/fedor-emelianenko-is-running-for

Big news regarding the world's best heavyweight, Fedor Emelianenko, as it was announced that he will soon be entering the world of politics. Word first came from Middle Easy, and was shortly confirmed by this press release:

The regional political council of the party "United Russia" approved the list of candidates for internal party elections - the primaries. In the list of 58 candidates. No less than 10 000 United Russia vote will determine the best, and who will receive the first place in the party list in the upcoming October elections in the Belgorod Regional Duma.

The list of early voting have 24 newcomers who have never participated in elections to the legislature. One of the achievements was the inclusion in the list not only members of United Russia, but also simply to party supporters and even non-party candidates. This is for example the managing director Combine KMA Ruda Vladimir Tom and CEO JBK-1 Yuri Selivanov. They are not only members of the party, but also by working in obldume fourth convocation, not included in the United Russia Duma faction.

Among the most notable candidates, in addition to the deputies (Anatolia Zelikow, Victor Filatov, Vadim Cage, Valeria Skruga, Ivan Kulabuhova, Vladimir Kulikovsky) - a famous athlete Fedor Emelianenko, the new director of Belarusian State Technological University Sergey Glagolev (by the way, non-partisan), director of the Institute of Public and municipal government BSU Alexander Mamatov.

Here's the potentially bad news for those hoping to see Fedor sign with the UFC -- Rumor is that he could call it quits at the end of his Strikeforce contract:

Fedor will be running for a congress seat in Russia for the pro-Kremlin party 'United Russia'. The party is dominant in the country and holds around 80% of the seats in the senate and Fedor will be representing his region. That's a fact... Now the accompanied rumor is that after Fedor fulfills the last two fights in his Strikeforce contract, he will retire from MMA.

'The Last Emperor' will be facing Fabricio Werdum this month, and possibly have a huge fight against Alistair Overeem next. Could this be the last two times we see what most people consider to be the greatest MMA fighter in history?
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 9:37 am

Holy shit I hope he doesn't retire!
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
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yea i know. I want to see him in the ufc for at least 3 fights before he retires
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 10:03 am

I would settle for at least one fight in the ufc. Come beat Brocks ass and then you can retire.
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
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*slits wrists*
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
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Wow, way to copy of Pac-Man. Fedor...stick to MMA you big, ugly phenom!
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he might have saved Brock's life.
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OUSOONERSOU wrote:
he might have saved Brock's life.

lol!

Thanks, I needed that. Lifted my spirits.
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 11:49 am

NOt surprised. We will never see Fedor in the UFC, unless this is all some sort of publicity stunt to add more value to his upcoming fights since they could be his last.
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
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What is it with fighters and politics ? Pacquiao,Vitali and now Fedor .
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What is it with fighters and politics ? Pacquiao,Vitali and now Fedor .

Don't forget Lindland and Sonnen
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OUSOONERSOU wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
What is it with fighters and politics ? Pacquiao,Vitali and now Fedor .

Don't forget Lindland and Sonnen

D'oh, I should've remembered Sonnen being a republican.
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 12:19 pm

He would be a shoe in to win. He is a huge celebrity like Pudz is in Poland. He is real religious and a +values type of guy it seems also, good things for election races. Hope he doesn't though.
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Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends Empty
PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 12:39 pm

I doubt that his political job will be a fulltime job. Show up, vote the way the money goes, keep the illusion of democracy intact using his celebrity status to gain public trust.

Crocop was a fighter and politician too.
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PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 1:41 pm

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I doubt that his political job will be a fulltime job. Show up, vote the way the money goes, keep the illusion of democracy intact using his celebrity status to gain public trust.

Crocop was a fighter and politician too.

How'd that work out for him?

Fedor isn't dumb enough to spread himself that thin. He'll pick one and stick to it. One of the reasons Fedor is so great is the time he spends in training. He knows that
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What will Fedor's retirement mean for M-1's partnership with Strikeforce?
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What will Fedor's retirement mean for M-1's partnership with Strikeforce?

Easy. No Fedor, no partnership.
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I say we all become citizens an go vote for the other guy so Fedor doesnt retire! hahaha
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whats with the pic of colts ass anyway?
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whats with the pic of colts ass anyway?

Lost a AV bet to Bigs. He choose the pic.
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PostSubject: Re: Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends   Report: Fedor Emelianenko Is Running for Office in Russia, Could Retire After His Strikeforce Contract Ends EmptyFri Jun 04, 2010 4:04 pm

The UFC HW division has a whole new breed of big, bad grapplers and Fedor needs to test that before he retires to cement that legacy. He bails and never steps foot in the UFC during this time of MMA evolution and there will be many that will criticize his career, including a lot that never have in the past. This isn't MMA 2004... He must take on the likes of Brock, Carwin, Cain and/or JDS before retiring to go down as the undisputed GOAT... Beating Werdum and Overeem isn't the same as beating the UFC guys. The BS that we saw a couple of years ago about Fedor ducking the UFC will be mild in comparison to what we'll see if he follows through with this...
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I hope he retires before coming to the UFC so everyone on here doesn't kill themselves when he would lose to Brock. We'd lose too many posters
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The UFC HW division has a whole new breed of big, bad grapplers and Fedor needs to test that before he retires to cement that legacy. He bails and never steps foot in the UFC during this time of MMA evolution and there will be many that will criticize his career, including a lot that never have in the past. This isn't MMA 2004... He must take on the likes of Brock, Carwin, Cain and/or JDS before retiring to go down as the undisputed GOAT... Beating Werdum and Overeem isn't the same as beating the UFC guys. The BS that we saw a couple of years ago about Fedor ducking the UFC will be mild in comparison to what we'll see if he follows through with this...

Fedor has nothing more to prove himself as the GOAT. You MIGHT argue that he isn't the best right this second, but there is no way shape or form guys like Brock or Cawin can hold a candle to Fedor's resume all time.

And why is it the Fedor has to prove himself to challegers. Challegers need to prove themselves against Champs. Shane has one quality win and Fedor has to prove himself to him? Usually speaking, Challegers must prove themselves worthy to face the champ and IMO the only HWs in the UFC that have are JDS and Brock and JDS isn't even in the conversation in the UFC.

Clearly the UFC is deeper at all levels then everyone else but the arguement that if you arn't in the UFC, you suck, is short sited. Timmy and AA left the UFC on their own accord and have been shit canned. Hendo was the #1 challenger in the UFC and lost his first fight out of the UFC.

Werdum is easily a 7-9 guy in the top 10 and Fedor fighting him is no different than Brock fighting Randy or Shane fighting GG or for that matter Mur so why the double standard?

Dana is just as much to blame for this as M1. Dana coulda wraped this deal up in 07 but he didn't in favor of acting like an ass.
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I hope he retires before coming to the UFC so everyone on here doesn't kill themselves when he would lose to Brock. We'd lose too many posters

Haha. You're prolly right.
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I can't even say the sentence "Fedor needs to beat Brock to prove he is the best" without laughing. I find it hilarious. Gets me every time.
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