Fedor Remaining Career Over/Under

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

So losses due to injury never happen in MMA? Because according to the link below and Fedor's Official record it does happen. Idol worship is no way to make arguments grounded in logic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts_rules#Ways_to_victory

You can't possibly equate a loss due to injury with someone legitimately losing to a better fighter. Give me a break.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

So losses due to injury never happen in MMA? Because according to the link below and Fedor's Official record it does happen. Idol worship is no way to make arguments grounded in logic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts_rules#Ways_to_victory

Injury due to an illegal blow usually results in the victim of that blow getting the win. However this was a tourny and someone needed to go on. So the same fighter that landed the illegal blow won the fight because of that illegal blow. How common is that? Don't be so hard headed on you Fedor hate, this is plain and dry. Under most rules Fedors gets that win.

I said better then .750


Right now with his 32 wins he could lose his next 9 fights and he'd still have a winning % of .762

It's winning percentage from here on out not total career.

I don't hate Fedor, however, on this board, I am the Devil's Advocate where Fedor is concerned. Now Kenny is my main man, but I don't think he shuld get a title shot until he fights 2 more times.

Aah, misread it. With that said I still think it's over .750

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

I don't hate Fedor, however, on this board, I am the Devil's Advocate where Fedor is concerned. Now Kenny is my main man, but I don't think he shuld get a title shot until he fights 2 more times.

I'm just saying your debate on his loss is pathetic. You do realize that 15 sec into the fight Fedor's opponent lands and illegal blow that ends the fight. How common is it that you win because of an illegal blow? One that was seen and acknowledged? Never, only in that fucked up tourny format would that guy get the win. Under normal rules Fedor gets that win. This really isn't debatable.

Well they should have ruled it a NC or a DQ win for Fedor but because he couldn't move on due to injury let his opponent move on like they did.

I big, skilled and athletic wrestler is equipped to beat Fedor. The UFC has three of them. I doubt M-1 wants to test Fedor against these guys -- one of them would get him.

Jesus, you guys are looking for excuses now. Forget I said anything. Your right. when he shits it is pure goal. He fights only the very best and never goes against 2nd rate fighters. In fact, how was Brett rogers not the 2nd highest ranked HW at the time he fought Fedor. Blah, blah, blah.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

I don't hate Fedor, however, on this board, I am the Devil's Advocate where Fedor is concerned. Now Kenny is my main man, but I don't think he shuld get a title shot until he fights 2 more times.

I'm just saying your debate on his loss is pathetic. You do realize that 15 sec into the fight Fedor's opponent lands and illegal blow that ends the fight. How common is it that you win because of an illegal blow? One that was seen and acknowledged? Never, only in that fucked up tourny format would that guy get the win. Under normal rules Fedor gets that win. This really isn't debatable.

Then what about Fedor's No Contest to Big Nog. Fedor is the one that performed the illegal contact [headbutt on Nog] that caused him to open a massive gash on his own head and thus the No Contest. That would have been a loss for anyone else.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Jesus, you guys are looking for excuses now. Forget I said anything. Your right. when he shits it is pure goal. He fights only the very best and never goes against 2nd rate fighters. In fact, how was Brett rogers not the 2nd highest ranked HW at the time he fought Fedor. Blah, blah, blah.

How does any of that gay shit relate to you thinking it was a legit loss? Just give me 1 legit reason to why that loss should be considered by anyone with an IQ higher then 1. Your problem is you are letting all the other Fedor shit get in the way. Just look at the loss and give me one reason to justify it, just 1. If that was a legit loss then the best way to beat Fedor is immediatly jam your finger in his eye as hard as possible. He can't continue and you win.

Sooner or later he is going to get caught one way or the other and lose. I'd be shocked if he fought for years more and didn't lose.

Then guess what Sooner, I didn't say it was a legal blow, but you have to prove it and obviously he didn't. Let us even say it was political? They had a tourny to continue. It is still listed as a loss. But gee there is just too much nuthugging where Fedor is concerned. I have seen people tear AA apart, that is until he fought and lost to Fedor, now they defend his career. Same with Sylvia, Rogers, and I am sure once he throttles Werdum, everyone will forget he got beat by JDS already. Is he the best HW? Yes. Check my records of votes and I have never listed him as anything...ANYTHING than #1. It doesn't mean he is making the best career decisions.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Then guess what Sooner, I didn't say it was a legal blow, but you have to prove it and obviously he didn't. Let us even say it was political? They had a tourny to continue. It is still listed as a loss. But gee there is just too much nuthugging where Fedor is concerned. I have seen people tear AA apart, that is until he fought and lost to Fedor, now they defend his career. Same with Sylvia, Rogers, and I am sure once he throttles Werdum, everyone will forget he got beat by JDS already. Is he the best HW? Yes. Check my records of votes and I have never listed him as anything...ANYTHING than #1. It doesn't mean he is making the best career decisions.

Obviously you are just not paying attention and don't know what happened. He didn't prove it? What the fuck are you talking about? The ref stopped the fight because of an illegal blow by Fedor's opponent. It wasn't under debate. There was never a question of "was it legal"? It was called illegal from the sec it happened. But because it was a tourny Fedor couldn't continue. So really it is exactly the same as jamming your thumb in Fedors eye just to advance to the next round or kicking him as hard as you can in the nuts just to win. Is that a legit loss you fucking hard headed, ignorant fucker?

Andrew.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Then guess what Sooner, I didn't say it was a legal blow, but you have to prove it and obviously he didn't. Let us even say it was political? They had a tourny to continue. It is still listed as a loss. But gee there is just too much nuthugging where Fedor is concerned. I have seen people tear AA apart, that is until he fought and lost to Fedor, now they defend his career. Same with Sylvia, Rogers, and I am sure once he throttles Werdum, everyone will forget he got beat by JDS already. Is he the best HW? Yes. Check my records of votes and I have never listed him as anything...ANYTHING than #1. It doesn't mean he is making the best career decisions.

People beat Heath Herring before Brock beat him

People beat Mur before Brock got sub'd by him and has been beat after Brock beat him

A LOT of people beat Randy before Brock beat him.

Whats you point?

Timmy and AA ruled the UFC for years. Fedor beat both within 1 round with time to spare. Nog won the belt in the UFC after Fedor beat his ass twice.

How come you question Fedor's resume as if there's some conspiracy that he's never faught anyone good and don't question the fact that the #2 and 3 guys Brock and Carwin have a combined one fight between the two over the last year? Fedor has fought more top 5 HWs than anyone over the last couple years.

Oh, most MMA writers and experts consider Fedor unbeatin. This isn't even a debate. Expert troll job.

Two in the whole as it stands from the start of this thread.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Two in the whole as it stands from the start of this thread.

When this thread was started there is no way in hell I would have ever guessed he would be at this point 0-2 for his last 2 fights. I guess age catches everyone eventually.

Bump, for you PT.

Thanks.



Great thread, especially since the way things turned out GDPofDRC

GDPofDRC wrote:

I think he will be better than .500. Could imagine him losing up to 3 times or something like that before hanging up his gloves of relevancy whenever that might be. And it could happen against anyone just about is the thing. People that size who knhow how to through a punch or kick hit hard enough to bring down anyone. Don't really see anyone subbing him. He could lose a five rounder to a real heavy blanket, get a bad cut on his face or but one day one of these super giants is gonna land something super nasty and bring him down Ii think. Probably in 2012.

Nobody was right. My prediction was about a year off. Though he has lost three times, I don't consider him completely lost and an irrelevant fighter, I think he is dangerous to many still. A few of the predictions somewhat played this year.