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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:25 pm | |
| These are always impossible but here goes. The ground rules.
Only fights that happened from 1985 on count. Style is irrelevant. This is about accomplishment.
Picking exact numbers will make my hair hurt so in a bunch of cases I am going to put men in groups and you can rank them within that group any way you choose and I won't argue.
HERE WE GO!
1. Pernell Whittaker-Just owned 135 and 147 and beat the top guy at 154 just for grins. Fought everyone there was to fight. 2. Julio Cesar Chavez-Fought 30+ ranked guys. Some serious stuff there. 3. Evander Holyfield-Greatest cruiser ever, best heavy of his time. 4. Manny Pacquiao-TEN divisions? Are you kidding me? 5. Ricardo Lopez-Not sure I'm being entirely objective here. 6-9. Roy Jones, BHOP, Floyd Mayweather-I wish two of them had fought the better available opposition. I suspect they'd be ranked higher. 10. Erik Morales-The second best 122 of all time and the last man to beat Manny. 11-15. Oscar de la Hoya, Felix Trinidad, Marco Antonio Barerra, Azumah Nelson and James Toney-No idea the right order there. 16-19. Khaosai Galaxy, Lennox Lewis, Chiquita Gonzales, -Three more greats 20-24. Jung Koo Chang, Kosta Tzyu, Rafael Marquez, Joe Calzaghe, Michael Nunn-Running out of room 25. Pick one of Johnny Tapia, Ivan Calderon, Shane Mosely, Juan Manuel Marquez, Naseem Hamed, Ponsaklek Wonjonkam, Michael Carbajal, Yuri Arbachakov and you can't go wrong.
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| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:29 pm | |
| Is this real, are you actually Marble ? |
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| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:29 pm | |
| HOLY SHIT. The man is here.
How are you marble. Thank you very much for joining. |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:33 pm | |
| Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:34 pm | |
| Fuckin awesome to have Marble here | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:35 pm | |
| MOTHER FUCKER ITS YOU and you stole my topic i will bump my list let me know waht ya think pimp | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?
Manny not yet, BHop is subjective, Floyd probably, and Roy more than likely | |
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| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| That is such a tough list to argue with. I see no problems with it Marble. I might have just lumped in Morales with Barrera and ODH but hey I cant argue. |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:40 pm | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:40 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Is this real, are you actually Marble ?
I'm not sure how to reply, but yeah it's me. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:40 pm | |
| and we agree marble, Pernell Whitaker number 1 by miles IMO | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:41 pm | |
| - soonermark890 wrote:
- That is such a tough list to argue with. I see no problems with it Marble. I might have just lumped in Morales with Barrera and ODH but hey I cant argue.
Yeah I can definitely see that. | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:42 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- and we agree marble, Pernell Whitaker number 1 by miles IMO
I'm not sure how that dude falls out of people's memories the way he does. I mean folks talk about Jones and Floyd being dominant. How about Pete? | |
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| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:43 pm | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- Ali_1748 wrote:
- Is this real, are you actually Marble ?
I'm not sure how to reply, but yeah it's me. Sorry Marble you just caught me by surprise Thank you for joining, they've all been clamoring for ages to have you aboard. |
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| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:43 pm | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- Birdofthad wrote:
- and we agree marble, Pernell Whitaker number 1 by miles IMO
I'm not sure how that dude falls out of people's memories the way he does. I mean folks talk about Jones and Floyd being dominant. How about Pete? Pete is by far number 1. |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:43 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?
I don't think so. Sweet Pea, Evander and JCC all accomplished more than those guys I think. Of course Floyd and manny are still working | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:44 pm | |
| exactly, and Pete wasnt just dominating the dude was hard pressed to lose a round
I am convinced I will never see anything like Pernell Whitaker again
every 3 or 4 years there is supposedly going to be a new Whitaker, like Casamayor, Ledwaba, Zab (somehow got this claim) etc. But I am convinced we wont see one | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:46 pm | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?
I don't think so. Sweet Pea, Evander and JCC all accomplished more than those guys I think.
Of course Floyd and manny are still working Yeah I small time compared to you guys as boxing fans, just asking. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:47 pm | |
| dont worry bout it bud I could care less, I did 15 and left some off that I shouldnt have
I apologize for the hideous picture as my signature, I lost a bet last ngiht and this is how i paid for it | |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:50 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- marbleheadmaui wrote:
- tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?
I don't think so. Sweet Pea, Evander and JCC all accomplished more than those guys I think.
Of course Floyd and manny are still working Yeah I small time compared to you guys as boxing fans, just asking. It's all about what criteria one values. If you prize technical excellence, dominant performances and flash? Floyd and Roy would have to be higher. If you value beating the best available guys over and over again? You'rte probably closer to my list. But it's not like there is a right answer here. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:52 pm | |
| glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks | |
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| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 9:53 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks
Yeah I got a permanent ban on ESPN trying to get people to switch. LOL |
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marbleheadmaui Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Arguello, Finito, Duran, Saad Muhammad Posts : 4040 Join date : 2010-05-16
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 10:01 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks
JJ oughtta be your next target. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS Sun May 16, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| - marbleheadmaui wrote:
- Birdofthad wrote:
- glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks
JJ oughtta be your next target. GOOD LUCK getting JJ. I have been trying. |
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