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PostSubject: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:25 pm

These are always impossible but here goes. The ground rules.

Only fights that happened from 1985 on count.
Style is irrelevant. This is about accomplishment.

Picking exact numbers will make my hair hurt so in a bunch of cases I am going to put men in groups and you can rank them within that group any way you choose and I won't argue.

HERE WE GO!

1. Pernell Whittaker-Just owned 135 and 147 and beat the top guy at 154 just for grins. Fought everyone there was to fight.
2. Julio Cesar Chavez-Fought 30+ ranked guys. Some serious stuff there.
3. Evander Holyfield-Greatest cruiser ever, best heavy of his time.
4. Manny Pacquiao-TEN divisions? Are you kidding me?
5. Ricardo Lopez-Not sure I'm being entirely objective here.
6-9. Roy Jones, BHOP, Floyd Mayweather-I wish two of them had fought the better available opposition. I suspect they'd be ranked higher.
10. Erik Morales-The second best 122 of all time and the last man to beat Manny.
11-15. Oscar de la Hoya, Felix Trinidad, Marco Antonio Barerra, Azumah Nelson and James Toney-No idea the right order there.
16-19. Khaosai Galaxy, Lennox Lewis, Chiquita Gonzales, -Three more greats
20-24. Jung Koo Chang, Kosta Tzyu, Rafael Marquez, Joe Calzaghe, Michael Nunn-Running out of room
25. Pick one of Johnny Tapia, Ivan Calderon, Shane Mosely, Juan Manuel Marquez, Naseem Hamed, Ponsaklek Wonjonkam, Michael Carbajal, Yuri Arbachakov and you can't go wrong.

Have at it!
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Is this real, are you actually Marble ?
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:29 pm

HOLY SHIT. The man is here.

How are you marble. Thank you very much for joining.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:33 pm

Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?
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Fuckin awesome to have Marble here
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MOTHER FUCKER ITS YOU

and you stole my topic Very Happy

i will bump my list let me know waht ya think pimp
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:38 pm

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?

Manny not yet, BHop is subjective, Floyd probably, and Roy more than likely
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:38 pm

That is such a tough list to argue with. I see no problems with it Marble. I might have just lumped in Morales with Barrera and ODH but hey I cant argue.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:40 pm

a fine lsit as always
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Ali_1748 wrote:
Is this real, are you actually Marble ?

I'm not sure how to reply, but yeah it's me.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:40 pm

and we agree marble, Pernell Whitaker number 1 by miles IMO
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soonermark890 wrote:
That is such a tough list to argue with. I see no problems with it Marble. I might have just lumped in Morales with Barrera and ODH but hey I cant argue.

Yeah I can definitely see that.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:42 pm

Birdofthad wrote:
and we agree marble, Pernell Whitaker number 1 by miles IMO

I'm not sure how that dude falls out of people's memories the way he does. I mean folks talk about Jones and Floyd being dominant. How about Pete?
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
Is this real, are you actually Marble ?

I'm not sure how to reply, but yeah it's me.

Sorry Marble you just caught me by surprise Very Happy Thank you for joining, they've all been clamoring for ages to have you aboard.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
Birdofthad wrote:
and we agree marble, Pernell Whitaker number 1 by miles IMO

I'm not sure how that dude falls out of people's memories the way he does. I mean folks talk about Jones and Floyd being dominant. How about Pete?
Pete is by far number 1.
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tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?

I don't think so. Sweet Pea, Evander and JCC all accomplished more than those guys I think.

Of course Floyd and manny are still working
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:44 pm

exactly, and Pete wasnt just dominating the dude was hard pressed to lose a round

I am convinced I will never see anything like Pernell Whitaker again

every 3 or 4 years there is supposedly going to be a new Whitaker, like Casamayor, Ledwaba, Zab (somehow got this claim) etc. But I am convinced we wont see one
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Birdofthad wrote:
MOTHER FUCKER ITS YOU

and you stole my topic Very Happy

i will bump my list let me know waht ya think pimp

SORRY! I'm new here Smile
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:46 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?

I don't think so. Sweet Pea, Evander and JCC all accomplished more than those guys I think.

Of course Floyd and manny are still working

Yeah I small time compared to you guys as boxing fans, just asking.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:47 pm

dont worry bout it bud I could care less, I did 15 and left some off that I shouldnt have

I apologize for the hideous picture as my signature, I lost a bet last ngiht and this is how i paid for it
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:50 pm

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Shouldn't Roy, Floyd, B-Hop and Manny all be top 5?

I don't think so. Sweet Pea, Evander and JCC all accomplished more than those guys I think.

Of course Floyd and manny are still working

Yeah I small time compared to you guys as boxing fans, just asking.

It's all about what criteria one values. If you prize technical excellence, dominant performances and flash? Floyd and Roy would have to be higher. If you value beating the best available guys over and over again? You'rte probably closer to my list.

But it's not like there is a right answer here.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 9:52 pm

glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks
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Birdofthad wrote:
glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks
Yeah I got a permanent ban on ESPN trying to get people to switch. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS   THE TOP 25 OF THE LAST 25 YEARS EmptySun May 16, 2010 10:01 pm

Birdofthad wrote:
glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks

JJ oughtta be your next target.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
Birdofthad wrote:
glad you came over marble, the boxing board here is picking up and gianed steam in the last few weeks

JJ oughtta be your next target.
GOOD LUCK getting JJ. I have been trying.
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