Moments that Made you say : HOLY SHIT

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Holy Shit Lennox Lewis retires Champion.

Holy Shit Mike Tyson is bankrupt!

Holy Shit Trinidad and Vargas just put on a helleva fight!!

Holy Shit Ali is drafted and stripped of his title!!!

HOLY SHIT Ali acts like a coward and refuses to go to war.

My point exactly Soonermark.

timthebim wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Holy Shit Lennox Lewis retires Champion.

Holy Shit Mike Tyson is bankrupt!

Holy Shit Trinidad and Vargas just put on a helleva fight!!

Holy Shit Ali is drafted and stripped of his title!!!

HOLY SHIT Ali acts like a coward and refuses to go to war.

My point exactly Soonermark.

I will never respect Ali because of that. I cant believe people cheer him.

We are a very forgiving country though especially with athletes. Guys like Mike Tyson can do what ever they want go and win 3 or 4 fights in arow and we love them again. Just the way America is.

I dont have a problem with Ali not going to war

no one bitched when Dick Cheney went MIA for all of Vietnam

the thing i disliked about alo was saying that Frazier got "a white decision" when he clearly got his ass kicked

Birdofthad wrote:

I dont have a problem with Ali not going to war

no one bitched when Dick Cheney went MIA for all of Vietnam

the thing i disliked about alo was saying that Frazier got "a white decision" when he clearly got his ass kicked

I can not forgive anyone who draft dodges.

I dislike Ali for many reasons

bobbitt15 wrote:

I dislike Ali for many reasons

Me too.

Me 3 boys.

timthebim wrote:

Me 3 boys.

Your after how many boys?

Big George gets it done.

Mike Weaver drops John Tate after losing 14 rounds and about two minutes of the 15th.

Finito Lopez, cut in four spots and trailing, is at the center of the ring ten seconds before the bell with his hands up just so he can get to Bufalo Alvarez just a little quicker.

bobbitt15 wrote:

I dislike Ali for many reasons

What did I ever do to you bobbit ?

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

I dont have a problem with Ali not going to war

no one bitched when Dick Cheney went MIA for all of Vietnam

the thing i disliked about alo was saying that Frazier got "a white decision" when he clearly got his ass kicked

I can not forgive anyone who draft dodges.

See the thing is Ali didn't draft dodge. He stood up like a man and said "I think this is wrong and I am willing to pay the price for following my beliefs." He didn't go to Canada, he didn't whine and he didn't hide. Now do I agree with his stance? Not even a little bit. But the WAY he did it was admirable.

THAT is how you protest what you see as injustice. You stand up and willingly pay a price for your beliefs.

agree Marble

he didnt go to law school and then med school to avoid the war or get outta the country, he went to prison and paid for his stance

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

I dont have a problem with Ali not going to war

no one bitched when Dick Cheney went MIA for all of Vietnam

the thing i disliked about alo was saying that Frazier got "a white decision" when he clearly got his ass kicked

I can not forgive anyone who draft dodges.

See the thing is Ali didn't draft dodge. He stood up like a man and said "I think this is wrong and I am willing to pay the price for following my beliefs." He didn't go to Canada, he didn't whine and he didn't hide. Now do I agree with his stance? Not even a little bit. But the WAY he did it was admirable.

THAT is how you protest what you see as injustice. You stand up and willingly pay a price for your beliefs.

Either way Marble he all the sudden had a huge problem with the war once he was drafted. Kinda selfish if you ask me.

"Derrick Jefferson, I LOVE YOU!!!!!"

Birdofthad wrote:

agree Marble

he didnt go to law school and then med school to avoid the war or get outta the country, he went to prison and paid for his stance

He should have been in prison. Did he even spend any time in jail?

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

agree Marble

he didnt go to law school and then med school to avoid the war or get outta the country, he went to prison and paid for his stance

He should have been in prison. Did he even spend any time in jail?

Nope. Not a day.

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

agree Marble

he didnt go to law school and then med school to avoid the war or get outta the country, he went to prison and paid for his stance

He should have been in prison. Did he even spend any time in jail?

Nope. Not a day.

How the hell do you draft dodge and you never go to jail? WTF

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

I dont have a problem with Ali not going to war

no one bitched when Dick Cheney went MIA for all of Vietnam

the thing i disliked about alo was saying that Frazier got "a white decision" when he clearly got his ass kicked

I can not forgive anyone who draft dodges.

See the thing is Ali didn't draft dodge. He stood up like a man and said "I think this is wrong and I am willing to pay the price for following my beliefs." He didn't go to Canada, he didn't whine and he didn't hide. Now do I agree with his stance? Not even a little bit. But the WAY he did it was admirable.

THAT is how you protest what you see as injustice. You stand up and willingly pay a price for your beliefs.

Either way Marble he all the sudden had a huge problem with the war once he was drafted. Kinda selfish if you ask me.

Again, I didn't agree with his choice. But in my view he acted entirely honorably throughout the process. Strangely enough, my Dad, who volunteered for service in Vietnam and did a tour in 1967-1968 also had no trouble with Ali's approach. He had trouble with his point of view, but given that, not how he acted.

Ali has done many despicable things in his life. But I found his approach to the draft damned near heroic.

soonermark890 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

agree Marble

he didnt go to law school and then med school to avoid the war or get outta the country, he went to prison and paid for his stance

He should have been in prison. Did he even spend any time in jail?

Nope. Not a day.

How the hell do you draft dodge and you never go to jail? WTF

Appeal like a sumbitch.

soonermark890 wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

agree Marble

he didnt go to law school and then med school to avoid the war or get outta the country, he went to prison and paid for his stance

He should have been in prison. Did he even spend any time in jail?

Nope. Not a day.

How the hell do you draft dodge and you never go to jail? WTF

While you are appealing you get released on a bond and give up your passport. Not unusual for the time is my guess, but I'm happy to be educated.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

I dont have a problem with Ali not going to war

no one bitched when Dick Cheney went MIA for all of Vietnam

the thing i disliked about alo was saying that Frazier got "a white decision" when he clearly got his ass kicked

I can not forgive anyone who draft dodges.

See the thing is Ali didn't draft dodge. He stood up like a man and said "I think this is wrong and I am willing to pay the price for following my beliefs." He didn't go to Canada, he didn't whine and he didn't hide. Now do I agree with his stance? Not even a little bit. But the WAY he did it was admirable.

THAT is how you protest what you see as injustice. You stand up and willingly pay a price for your beliefs.

Either way Marble he all the sudden had a huge problem with the war once he was drafted. Kinda selfish if you ask me.

Again, I didn't agree with his choice. But in my view he acted entirely honorably throughout the process. Strangely enough, my Dad, who volunteered for service in Vietnam and did a tour in 1967-1968 also had no trouble with Ali's approach. He had trouble with his point of view, but given that, not how he acted.

Ali has done many despicable things in his life. But I found his approach to the draft damned near heroic.

I have three veterans in my family and ALL of them hated Ali for the draft dodge he did. Maybe I am too cut and dry I just think that no matter how he did it he still draft dodged.

Did Joe Louis and Ray Robinson get cushy positions when they served? Like doing boxing exhibitions and such?

I assume Ali would have gotten the same.

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Did Joe Louis and Ray Robinson get cushy positions when they served? Like doing boxing exhibitions and such?

I assume Ali would have gotten the same.

But doing USO shows is way too much to ask of a man like Ali.

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

Did Joe Louis and Ray Robinson get cushy positions when they served? Like doing boxing exhibitions and such?

I assume Ali would have gotten the same.

Yup, yup and yup he would have.