Money vs Pacman - who takes it?

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbit thats called a hands high tight guard not like Cottos ear muff guard

Pac could barely get through the fucking thing throwin 1100 hundred punches to top it off

CLOTTEY WASNT FUCKING MOVING

Pac wont crack Mayweathers D

BOOK IT

Again who the hell fights at 147 that would have mounted any significant offense against a Joshua Clottey that was in 100% defense mode for 12 consecutive rounds?

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

Sorry Bobbitt, I saw a guy getting counterpunched at will by Marquez and love how Freddie Roach has stayed the fuck away from good counterpunchers since then

styles make fights, you guys are delusional if you think Manny s gonna run in guns blazing and everything wil be fine for him

That's my point, he doesn't fight that way anymore. He picked Cotto apart and dropped with shots in that fight. It wasn't just some crazy kamikaze balls to the wall attack as soon as the bell rang

how many rounds did Michael Jennings last with Cotto????? Oh ya thats right

Cotto was done, I have ESPN posts going all the way back to the Jennings fight to prove I have been a firm believer of this for a long time.

Ya Pac did real well getting tagged by Cottos jab at will the first 4 rounds even though he was bashing the shit outta Cotto

oh ya what weight was that at again?

Lets all act like floyd never fought a good welter HAHAHAHAH

So you can act like Cotto was shot and that's not an excuse, but people who think Shane looked like shit and gassed out after 3 rounds are making excuses?

HUGE DIFFERENCE

Watch Shanes last 3 fights

watch Cottos

Birdofthad wrote:

hey Sooner was George Foreman in his Prime when he beat Michael Moorer?

Was he still the champion???


SHADUP

Damn Bird I have now made you grasp at straws. You sound like one of the Flomos on the ESPN board. LOL

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

hahahahah wow your delirious if you think Shane had Floyd out on his feet what a joke

what did Cotto weigh again? oh ya thats right still not a WELTER

love how you want to claim Floyd doesnt fight good welters but forget Zab had Cotto rocking and rolling earlier than Pac did (A PRIME COTTO)

So you just made a case for Floyd being better than I thought

Floyd was out on his feet? THEN WON EVERY FUCKING ROUND???????? NO WAY MAN WHAT A GOD

Floyd was out on his feet in the 2nd. Also unless they changed the WW division its between 141-147 so 144 is a Welter. LOL
Name me one Prime WW that he has fought. YOU CANT lol lol lol.

wow what a joke of a post

144 aint the WELTERWEIGHT CUT OFF LIMIT YOU ARE WRONG

Floyd came back and rocked Shane that round

soonermark890 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

hey Sooner was George Foreman in his Prime when he beat Michael Moorer?

Was he still the champion???


SHADUP

Damn Bird I have now made you grasp at straws. You sound like one of the Flomos on the ESPN board. LOL

guess someone cant answer a question cause they know the answer makes their stance look wrong

No one give Tommy Morrisson credit for his biggest win ever guy

Foreman was past his prime even though he won the title in his next fight

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

Sorry Bobbitt, I saw a guy getting counterpunched at will by Marquez and love how Freddie Roach has stayed the fuck away from good counterpunchers since then

styles make fights, you guys are delusional if you think Manny s gonna run in guns blazing and everything wil be fine for him

That's my point, he doesn't fight that way anymore. He picked Cotto apart and dropped with shots in that fight. It wasn't just some crazy kamikaze balls to the wall attack as soon as the bell rang

how many rounds did Michael Jennings last with Cotto????? Oh ya thats right

Cotto was done, I have ESPN posts going all the way back to the Jennings fight to prove I have been a firm believer of this for a long time.

Ya Pac did real well getting tagged by Cottos jab at will the first 4 rounds even though he was bashing the shit outta Cotto

oh ya what weight was that at again?

Lets all act like floyd never fought a good welter HAHAHAHAH

So you can act like Cotto was shot and that's not an excuse, but people who think Shane looked like shit and gassed out after 3 rounds are making excuses?

HUGE DIFFERENCE

Watch Shanes last 3 fights

watch Cottos

Shane looked like dog shit against Mayorga and lost to Cotto. He had one good peformance out of those 3

Shane Mosley knocked out Ricardo Mayorga and Antonio Margarito back to back before he fought Floyd. He was p4p #3 and the unofficial welterweight champion, funny how his age is being thrown around now that Floyd dominated him.

Manny couldn't knockout a weight drained shell of Oscar De La Hoya, and now he's suppose to knockout the best defensive fighter in the sport, who just so happens to have pretty good chin himself.

Shane lost a competitive decision to a prime Miguel Cotto. Manny feasted on Margarito's leftovers.

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

Sorry Bobbitt, I saw a guy getting counterpunched at will by Marquez and love how Freddie Roach has stayed the fuck away from good counterpunchers since then

styles make fights, you guys are delusional if you think Manny s gonna run in guns blazing and everything wil be fine for him

That's my point, he doesn't fight that way anymore. He picked Cotto apart and dropped with shots in that fight. It wasn't just some crazy kamikaze balls to the wall attack as soon as the bell rang

how many rounds did Michael Jennings last with Cotto????? Oh ya thats right

Cotto was done, I have ESPN posts going all the way back to the Jennings fight to prove I have been a firm believer of this for a long time.

Ya Pac did real well getting tagged by Cottos jab at will the first 4 rounds even though he was bashing the shit outta Cotto

oh ya what weight was that at again?

Lets all act like floyd never fought a good welter HAHAHAHAH

So you can act like Cotto was shot and that's not an excuse, but people who think Shane looked like shit and gassed out after 3 rounds are making excuses?

HUGE DIFFERENCE

Watch Shanes last 3 fights

watch Cottos

Shane looked like dog shit against Mayorga and lost to Cotto. He had one good peformance out of those 3

as opposed to Michael jennings Clottey and Pac

ya notice you dont want to talk about that

also love how it was a 115-113 fight, 7-5, close as hell and you all act like Cotto massacred him

I would rather be someone that gives a 41-0 fighter credit

than a hater

all the people with excuses

guess who they picked 5 days ago?????????

Cotto won every round against Jennings and TKO'd him in the 5th round. I don't even understand what point you're trying to make with that. He sucks b/c he didn't KO him in the 1st round? Then he beat Joshua Clottey, a concensus top 10 WW despite having a huge fucking cut over his eye from the 2nd round on. Then Pac fuckin bitch slapped his ass

bobbitt15 wrote:

Cotto won every round against Jennings and TKO'd him in the 5th round. I don't even understand what point you're trying to make with that. He sucks b/c he didn't KO him in the 1st round? Then he beat Joshua Clottey, a concensus top 10 WW despite having a huge fucking cut over his eye from the 2nd round on. Then Pac fuckin bitch slapped his ass

no my point is Margarito ruined Cotto for the worse

watch the Jennings fight, Jennings a fucking bum is keeping cotto at bay with a jab, Cotto got stuck on the ropes and tagged with a good uppercut by said bum.

Cotto had a tougher night with Jennings than he should have.

THAT TELLS ME SOMETHING

so wahts worse having some tough spots with Michael Jennings or Ricardo Mayorga
ya thats what i thought

Birdofthad wrote:

I would rather be someone that gives a 41-0 fighter credit

than a hater

all the people with excuses

guess who they picked 5 days ago?????????

Just to clarify, I'm always going to pick one of my favorite fighters over a dude I hate on a meaningless message board pickem contest. I regularly bet boxing and MMA online at Bookmaker. If I had any actual faith in Shane putting on a good performance I would've thrown money on him getting 3 to 1. I didn't

find me a post from 5 days ago saying Shane is old and not a good fighter that you posted

bet you cant

my point

you all picked mosley

you all have an excuse

Again if I really thought Shane would win that fight I would've put money on him getting 3 to 1. Would've been stupid not to

And the whole excuses thing has turned into a 2 way street given that you've pretty much discredited every one of Pac's wins over like the last 5 years on here the past couple days

And there were PLENTY of people picking both Hatton and Cotto to beat Pac before those fights and many more that thought Clottey would give him a fight

bobbitt I never attacked pac until you guys started tearing Maywaether down

go through and read where i say ok you want to play that game than I can say this

I give Manny credit, wolf asked who wins I told ya why and all of a sudden Floyds never fought a welter

and all i was really trying to convey was saying Pac beat a better Hatton and Oscar than Floyd did was retarded

but then I remembered Sooners has Allen Green in his top 10 P4P

Birdofthad wrote:

bobbitt I never attacked pac until you guys started tearing Maywaether down

go through and read where i say ok you want to play that game than I can say this

I give Manny credit, wolf asked who wins I told ya why and all of a sudden Floyds never fought a welter

Lol that's fine just keep the Floyd welter argument between you and Sooners lol

hahah ok bobbitt

Judge Duane Ford scores it 115-113 for Bird

Judge Tony Weeks scores it 114-1113 for bobbit

Judge Ali_1748 a scores it 120-108 for the winner by split decision and the new WBC, Bronze, emertus in recess, NABO, Carribean, intercontinental, Oceanic diamond champion ....... Bird

Ali_1748 wrote:

Judge Duane Ford scores it 115-113 for Bird

Judge Tony Weeks scores it 114-1113 for bobbit

Judge Ali_1748 a scores it 120-108 for the winner and the new WBC, Bronze, emertus in recess, NABO, Carribean, intercontinental, Oceanic diamond champion ....... Bird

hahahahha WOOOHHH FUCK YA

take that bobbitt, hahahahah

would mean the world to me if Ali put the new WBC, Bronze, emertus in recess, NABO, Carribean, intercontinental, Oceanic diamond championship belt around my neck, my waste is holding my IBF and WBA Bronze, emertus in recess, NABO, Carribean, intercontinental, Oceanic diamond championship belts

I get a shot at Miguel Cotto for the WBO title next week!!!!!!!!!

I won the IBO belt by knocking out LA in the first round.

hahaha poor LA

he probably thinks he is the better fighter and your win was a fluke

hahahaha

Birdofthad wrote:

I would rather be someone that gives a 41-0 fighter credit

than a hater

all the people with excuses

guess who they picked 5 days ago?????????

I picked Floyd by UD. It was an easy pick. I don't know why people thought a 38 year old Mosley was going to win? He only had a punchers chance.

Birdofthad wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Floyd Mayweather by knockout, and it won't even be competitive.

Ali you have to be kidding. You think he can KO Pac? Why?

Because Manny will end up walking into a counter shot, when he's trying in vain to catch Floyd.

Manny doesn't have the size or technique to beat Floyd.

Man I just don't think he has the power to do that. Also Manny might be the fastest fighter Floyd has fought. Floyd was hit and hurt by Shane. Why cant Manny do the same?

Well for starters Manny isn't as powerful as Shane, he's faster but hasn't knocked out Jr Middleweights like Shane has. And Manny won't work from his jab like Shane did to set up that shot.

When was the last time Shane KO'd a Jr Middleweight? He is past his prime Ali. How do we know if Shane is more powerful? Pac KO'd Cotto and a younger version of Shane couldn't do that. Hell he lost to Cotto.
I just see Manny's combination of Speed and Power along with the huge amount of puches he throws giving Floyd fits and Manny will start landing and he will KO Floyd.

Love how you keep saying Shane is past his prime but act like Pac fought the 1998 Oscar, the 2004 Ricky and the 2006 Cotto

You mean the Cotto that Floyd ducked? That Cotto?