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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:00 am | |
| And new UFC Lightweight champion....Gilbert Melendez!!!! | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:05 am | |
| Edgar outboxes him
Gil would be between Griffin and Stevenson in the UFC | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, since way back Posts : 1191 Join date : 2009-09-30 Age : 43 Location : Flint, MI
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:19 am | |
| Edgar is too quick for him. Gray Maynard is the real UFC champ. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:22 am | |
| BJ is the real UFC LW Champion | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:23 am | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:27 am | |
| BJ is the real champ, but I'd think Gil beats Edgar by being stronger and more well rounded. Gil could contend with Edgar standing, but if he couldn't, on the ground and against the fence would be all Gilbert imo. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:30 am | |
| Gil is even smaller than Frankie
Frankie outquicks and outboxes him, avoids takedowns with better wrestling which he does infact have, and wins a decision, just cause Frankie isn't a finisher.
Gray rapes Gil | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, since way back Posts : 1191 Join date : 2009-09-30 Age : 43 Location : Flint, MI
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:30 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- BJ is the real champ, but I'd think Gil beats Edgar by being stronger and more well rounded. Gil could contend with Edgar standing, but if he couldn't, on the ground and against the fence would be all Gilbert imo.
Yeah, my gut is still that BJ is the best. I think you're underestimating Frankie. I give him a wrestling edge and a pretty good striking one against Gil. It would be a great fight though. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:32 am | |
| come on LA. Maynard rapes gil? thats an outrageous statement. pure UFC homerism | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:33 am | |
| Not at all, Gray is huge compared to Gil who is a very small LW, think the Frankie fight | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:36 am | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Not at all, Gray is huge compared to Gil who is a very small LW, think the Frankie fight
who has gray ever beaten down? no body. at best gray wins by close decision. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:37 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- BJ is the real champ, but I'd think Gil beats Edgar by being stronger and more well rounded. Gil could contend with Edgar standing, but if he couldn't, on the ground and against the fence would be all Gilbert imo.
Gill would shoot on Frankie! | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:38 am | |
| Captain, Gray won a shutout against Frankie on every card | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, since way back Posts : 1191 Join date : 2009-09-30 Age : 43 Location : Flint, MI
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:38 am | |
| Gray is developping with every fight, but even as a project he's too much for guys like Frankie Edgar, Roger Huerta, Jim Miller and Nate Diaz. The Vegas odds would be with Gray on this one by a fairly good margin. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:40 am | |
| He'd bully Gil around, never said beat down, said rape, like the Frankie fight | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:43 am | |
| Gilbert is tough, has great cardio, improving boxing and pretty good wrestling. He's a tough fight for anyone at 155 and is definitely top 5 imo. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:45 am | |
| I guess we are arguing terminology, but I'd rank rape as a worse beating then beat down.
Maynard is the decision queen. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:47 am | |
| I know we all thought Aoki was overvalued but he was still a top 3 155 and he had nothing to offer gil. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:49 am | |
| And he'd have nothing to offer a lot of UFC LWs like I've been saying forever | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:36 am | |
| How is Gil not getting the respect he deserves? He has outstruck excellent strikers and tonight he spent a fair amount of the fight sitting in Shinya Aoki's guard(Where Gil not dare go) and still dominated him every second of the fight. He has the motor, the standup, the wrestling, he's competent in jiu jitsu, power, cardio...he's the shit and the real deal.
He's no BJ but i still don't agree any one is.
Aoki has fought plenty of good guys who on paper should have been able to do what Melendez did tonight but they could not even get out of the first round with him. Yet Melendez dominated him everywhere the fight went, including the ground. Melendez is not just another LW IMO. He's special. Not a prodigy but in the arguement with anybody else...including the current UFC Champion* | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:38 am | |
| No, he doesn't fight in the UFC, so he sucks. I need drugs. I am LA and I embarrass the website.
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:45 am | |
| You're a fucking joke Wolf
Aoki was always oveerrated, like I've been saying forever, a bunch of guys in the UFC do the same thing to Aoki. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:50 am | |
| Since BJ Penn is mortal again, Gilbert Melendez has all the tools, skills and athleticism to hang with anyone in the UFC. He has been facing top quality UFC level fighters in Strikeforce and Pride for years now. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:52 am | |
| Ishida and Thomson (plus the layoff) are really that good? Crusher would be exposed in the US too | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Melendez vs Edgar Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:53 am | |
| Plus a decision win over Guida in what was a very close fight | |
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