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PostSubject: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 8:02 pm

Don't -

1. Overeem - lost to everyone good he has ever faced. His best win in his entire career is Vitor Belfort who I also think is overrated.

2. Vitor - Terry Martin was blasted by Smith in seven seconds. Matt Lindland is a politician who is semi retired and hasn't looked good since he was robbed against Page years ago. Vitor loses to everyone good he fights too if they give him any fight, and he lost to Overeem too.

3. Jon Jones - This guy is good, but his defense is bad, O'Brien was really tagging him early in that fight. A more rounded kickboxer with decent wrestling chops would hurt his kid. Slow the train down.

4. Rumble - He looked great against bums like Spears, but he shows a lot of flaws in his game that shows me he isn't ready for the big time yet.

5. Dos Santos - Dangerous, but the lack of wrestling chops and a still developing BJJ game will hurt him against....



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Carwin/Cain/Lesnar - Looks like wrestling will become the dominant style in the division for years to come. Strikers will be an after thought in this division.

Mousasi - He wins in a lot of different ways and appears to be the most well rounded guy rising outside the UFC. No reason not to believe in it.

Rogers - He is huge and has steamrolled everyone he has faced. Lack of wrestling experts in Strikeforce means even if his unknown groundgame is weak, it won't matter for a while.

Aoki - Yellow pants + improving striking skills = win.

Steve Cantwell - This dude will be top ten in the coming years for a lot of years.

Luiz Cane - This guy would knock Rampage, Franklin, Ortiz, Rua and Evans into the dead zone. His defense is ridiculous and he disguises what he throws fantastic. So much upside for this cat. Heart too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 8:07 pm

I hate to cause I've rooted for him forever, but Overeem I don't for sure. I think Kongo needs to go on that list as well.
This should go without saying but since some people are fucking retarded...I buy into the Fedro hype!!! lol!

Others....Cain and Carwin both. Bones & Rumble. Jose Aldo
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 8:15 pm

Ya I am all for Aldo. The dude has unreal speed and strength in his strikes. Mike Brown has 24 seconds to get this fight on the ground or he skips the presser to get a CT scan.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 9:05 pm

BUY BIG
-Aldo
-Mousasi
-Joe Warren

buy
-Diego giving BJ all he can handle and possibly taking the title
-The Polish Experiment
-Cane
-Kimbo being a decent guy, not fighter

sell
-Carwin ever being champ
-Rogers
-KenFlo
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 9:07 pm

Ya i buy joe warren.

Sell polish.

Buy Brandon Vera.

Sell Kenflo.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 9:08 pm

I'm all aboard the Ryan Bader hype train.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 9:09 pm

Me too!
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Hell yes, Bader will be a destroyer.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 11:00 pm

Sell: Overreem, Vera, Rogers (as beating top guys with chins)

Buy: Aldo, Warren, Brock, Carwin, Cane, Swick, Rumble, Jones, Dos Santos, a lot of guys it's easier
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyMon Jul 27, 2009 11:02 pm

Forgot about Bader...I hope he turns into a fucking monster.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Jul 28, 2009 1:14 am

Sell: Kenflo, Overeem, Aoki, Jon Jones, KONGO

Buy: King Mo, Bader, Mousasi, Aldo, Cane, and Cain.

Man the LHW divisions future is solid too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Jul 28, 2009 7:05 am

How are so many people selling Florian? He's about as good as it gets. Not to mention he finishes fights.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Jul 28, 2009 7:24 am

I buy Kennys skill but the question was whos HYPE you don't buy. Kenny is being overhyped by so many people on these boards and others out there. Once he beats BJ....... if he does....... he will have lived up to the hype your giving him. Untill then he remains on my overhyped list.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Jul 28, 2009 3:24 pm

Sell: BJ (yeah I know, but he pusses to often and talks too much), Overeem, gonzaga, Carano, Kongo, Mirko, sadollah hasn't been good in a long time.

Buy: Florian (talks, lives it and sleeps it + I am a homer), Brock (UGH!), Carwin, Torres, MTB.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Jul 28, 2009 3:27 pm

Sell: Brock, Cain, Kenny, Shields

Buy: Diego, Nick Diaz, Jon Jones
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Jul 28, 2009 3:30 pm

Buy: Brock, KenFlo, Diego, Jon Jones, Mousasi

Sell: Overeem, Cain, Kongo,
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyWed Jul 29, 2009 1:18 am

Andrew the Raider King wrote:
Sell: BJ (yeah I know, but he pusses to often and talks too much), Overeem, gonzaga, Carano, Kongo, Mirko, sadollah hasn't been good in a long time.

Buy: Florian (talks, lives it and sleeps it + I am a homer), Brock (UGH!), Carwin, Torres, MTB.

LOL at BJ hype. Id say he is outnumbered on this board with guys predicting him to lose to kenny so where is the hype.
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Buy: Brock, Carwin, Luiz Cane, Florian, Bader

Sell: Cain Velasquez, Diego, Overeem, Penn
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Seems like many people like bader here.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Aug 11, 2009 2:49 pm

Mr. Coupon wrote:
Buy: Brock, Carwin, Luiz Cane, Florian, Bader

Sell: Cain Velasquez, Diego, Overeem, Penn

Damn man, You have got to change that Avatar! She is so fuckin hot right there... I might have something pop up here at work.
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PostSubject: Re: Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.   Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do. EmptyTue Aug 11, 2009 3:09 pm

Do - Mousasi, Lesnar, Cane, Warren, Wagnney, Dos Dantos, Babalu, Shields, Diego...

Don't - Overeem, Bones, Rumble, Cain, Grim, Soszynski, Florian, Evans, Tito, Santiago, Le, Huerta...


About all I can think of for now...
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lol @ listing Tito. Find me another fighter who started fighting in the UFC during the tornament/SEG era, through the dark ages, and well into the TUF era competitively at a high level who isn't Dan Henderson, and find me a fighter who has defended his title as many times as Ortiz who isn't named Hughes and Silva.
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It's based on current hype in here Wolf... I'm not buying in based on his recent past only being able to dispatch of Scamrock in his lastfive fights and the fact that he's coming off of back surgery. I'm reserving judgement to see a fight or two to see if he's still relevant. I'm just not swinging on the sack as you say...
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I know he hasn't beaten anyone besides Sham in a while, but that's because he was totally fucked against Rashad. Sometimes a fighter can lose impressively.
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Similarly to Coleman's career path and how I never really bought into the idea that he was a can fed to CC and Fedor. When those are the only fights you take, it's hard to judge how good you really are.
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